Originally Posted by El Barto:
https://i.gifer.com/TIjY.gif
Top two innocents
El Barto
Hally
Top two mafiats (wink):
Sunbae
EnderWiggin
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Originally Posted by El Barto:
https://i.gifer.com/TIjY.gif
Top two innocents
El Barto
Hally
Top two mafiats (wink):
Sunbae
EnderWiggin
Originally Posted by El Barto:
can you give a sentence on each?
Top two innocents
El Barto
Hally
Top two mafiats (wink):
Sunbae
EnderWiggin
Originally Posted by nebjiamn:
go family size or go home
whats the case on cheez its?
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
I'm town, so voting for me lynches a townie.
Convince me.
If you're town, voting for me is bad.
Also, if you're town, an alternative to either of us is good, because probabilites say that it's less likely that we'll lynch town.
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
why does this read like a lost wolf signal :crazy:
You don't have to pocket me, I'm not loyal.
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
In the interest of stirring the pot
Vote: Barto
Originally Posted by Hally:
I'm not finding either of them mention him much if at all
i think ender theoretically works with either mont or barto? he?s notably not pushed either at all iirc
that actually might be a bit odd if w/w if anything? :wall:
Originally Posted by Zack:
Yes.
can you give a sentence on each?
El Barto → it's in my r?le PM
Hally → has been hunting and prodding insistently.
With Sunbae and EnderWiggin it's a bit more vague, but let's say it's a hunch.
Also whom did I include in a trio of possible mafiats with Vulgard and IIRC Hally? Sunbae?
Originally Posted by Zack:
What if I prefer Doritos?
go family size or go home
Originally Posted by El Barto:
I seriously hope this was a rhetorical question
Yes.
El Barto → it's in my r?le PM
Hally → has been hunting and prodding insistently.
With Sunbae and EnderWiggin it's a bit more vague, but let's say it's a hunch.
Also whom did I include in a trio of possible mafiats with Vulgard and IIRC Hally? Sunbae?
Originally Posted by :
skill issue
What if I prefer Doritos?
I think you mixed up the replies to my two posts, Zack.
Originally Posted by Zack:
i do think it’s kinda odd for ender to not distance a bit if he’s w/w with one of them
I'm not finding either of them mention him much if at all
that actually might be a bit odd if w/w if anything? :wall:
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin:
why is the bolded there?
Zack's poked at a lot of things but I never feel like he's trying hard to direct thread which implies he's comfortable with letting other people lead it which doesn't feel congruent with how town is dying right now.
Also just gut tells me he's a wolf. Which is pretty dumb.
Also I don't think Benneh is wolf with Monty and if Zack is town I'm townreading a wolf.
Not impossible but not what I'm thinking about now.
Originally Posted by Hally:
yeah i think you pmuch have to distance/bus to some extent
i do think it’s kinda odd for ender to not distance a bit if he’s w/w with one of them
bart has been lightly wolf reading ender but not outside the realm of distancing really
mont i don’t remember saying anything about him
Originally Posted by EnderWiggin:
oh i missed this
Could punt Monty too.
Raskol was obv town but idk why they get blasted like that, gonna check their ISO in a bit just in case.
If I'm tracking it right, sunbae/hally/barto were in "no blast zone" which left me/benneh/monty
In one sense that clears it up but I'm also just confused in a different way now
Players Votes
El Barto 2 (Hally, Zack)
Zack 2 (EnderWiggin, nebjiamn)
Montmorency 1 (Sunbae)
Sunbae 1 (El Barto)
Either way I'd rather pants Barto than Monty here.
:bow:
Originally Posted by Hally:
I've had him in the nulls with non-Sun/Hally/Bart.
bart has been lightly wolf reading ender but not outside the realm of distancing really
mont i don’t remember saying anything about him
Originally Posted by Zack:
Since I seem to be going down, you should be asking yourself for next phase why not lynch Sunbae.
Either way I'd rather pants Barto than Monty here.
:bow:
I'm nto a particularly bad lynch, but still.
Also why the complete mindfuck of kiling Raskolnikov. It's not one of those weird kills that are meant to evade detection and protection as in games with powerr?les.
Unless the mafia team is Zack-Hally, why not kill either one of you?
Originally Posted by El Barto:
i was major wagon D1 so i didn’t think i would ever die fwiw
Since I seem to be going down, you should be asking yourself for next phase why not lynch Sunbae.
I'm nto a particularly bad lynch, but still.
Also why the complete mindfuck of kiling Raskolnikov. It's not one of those weird kills that are meant to evade detection and protection as in games with powerr?les.
Unless the mafia team is Zack-Hally, why not kill either one of you?
Originally Posted by Zack:
I'm geting vibes from you that I hadn't felt since the Zack Mafia game…
https://i.imgur.com/cFcDtSQ.png
unvote; vote: Zack
am i really gonna die here lol
Originally Posted by Hally:
Day One is always weird because nobody has any information. Anytime past D1 I'm more lynchable than you and so is Raskolnikov and we all know it.
i was major wagon D1 so i didn?t think i would ever die fwiw
i’m torn between “bart’s posts are so bad and he only popped in after his wagon took off, let’s just kill him lol” and “maybe he’s twtbaw? he doesn’t seem like he’s trying to give us a reason to spare him”
idk bros
jokes on yall i'll be in dvc and you will all have 48 hours of a stressful f5 :2thumbsup:
Players Votes
Zack 3 (EnderWiggin, nebjiamn, El Barto)
El Barto 2 (Hally, Zack)
Montmorency 1 (Sunbae)
i’m not confident zack is a villager at all but lunching him over bart seems bad
Originally Posted by Zack:
Sort of.
why does this read like a lost wolf signal :crazy:
Barto kind of open scumming; finding his partner is the valuable solve.
Not sure there's any new information being created ITT however, other than Neb lurk at this moment of truth.
Vote: Sunbae
vote: El Barto
Originally Posted by El Barto:
I actually thought benneh would die fwiw
Since I seem to be going down, you should be asking yourself for next phase why not lynch Sunbae.
I'm nto a particularly bad lynch, but still.
Also why the complete mindfuck of kiling Raskolnikov. It's not one of those weird kills that are meant to evade detection and protection as in games with powerr?les.
Unless the mafia team is Zack-Hally, why not kill either one of you?
Hally was a major wagon and almsot got yeeted, sunbae was under a lot of heat d1, I looked bad after sticking my neck out to kill vulg + save hally, ender was too low impact
Originally Posted by Zack:
why does this read like a lost wolf signal :crazy:Originally Posted by Zack:
So you preferred to lynch Monty rather than me even if you felt Monty was wolfy? Why?
Either way I'd rather pants Barto than Monty here.
:bow:
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
sunbae is definitely not getting lunched today
Sort of.
Barto kind of open scumming; finding his partner is the valuable solve.
Not sure there's any new information being created ITT however, other than Neb lurk at this moment of truth.
Vote: Sunbae
Players Votes
El Barto 3 (Hally, Zack, nebjiamn)
Zack 2 (EnderWiggin, El Barto)
Montmorency 1 (Sunbae)
Sunbae 1 (Montmorency)
Originally Posted by El Barto:
that post was a joke I thought of while looking back to see him talk about ender
So you preferred to lynch Monty rather than me even if you felt Monty was wolfy? Why?
obviously there is no lost wolf in the game
Originally Posted by nebjiamn:
Why did you upvote this post, Monty?
vote: El Barto
btw 3-3's fun.
Originally Posted by Hally:
What if I say vote: Sunbae?
sunbae is definitely not getting lunched today
Originally Posted by El Barto:
Because ninja.
Why did you upvote this post, Monty?
btw 3-3's fun.
I do have a very strong urge to rand Zack and Bart :eyebrows: but I'll probably just make the smart play.
Originally Posted by El Barto:
still no
What if I say vote: Sunbae?
im pretty good with these wagons but i'm also more scared to look zack in the eye post-game if i mislunch him here
its all fair game when i do it in f5/f3 though
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
I'll leave it up to you with a vote: Zack, but when I'm revealed as town nebjiamn looks bad and I'd say you should look at Zack-nebjiamn interactions.
Because ninja.
I do have a very strong urge to rand Zack and Bart :eyebrows: but I'll probably just make the smart play.
Players Votes
El Barto 3 (Hally, Zack, nebjiamn)
Zack 2 (EnderWiggin, El Barto)
Sunbae 1 (Montmorency)
Montmorency 1 (Sunbae)
sniped
i don’t know why bart and mont are so fixated on sunbae being a wolf
neither of them have ever explained it really
Yay, managed to ninja the GM. My personal objectives for this game are complete.
Vote: El Barto
if barto flips red here i'd take a hard look at his sunbae votes as potential distancing fwiw, that would be in his style
er, maybe not lol
Originally Posted by Zack:
I thought there was a chance I died to specific wolf teams but thought Ender was most likely followed by benneh
I actually thought benneh would die fwiw
Hally was a major wagon and almsot got yeeted, sunbae was under a lot of heat d1, I looked bad after sticking my neck out to kill vulg + save hally, ender was too low impact
welp, hope this is right
i have a sinking feeling i’m making a mistake here but w/e
Originally Posted by El Barto:
Who was this supposed to signal, to any plausible degree? I was already voting there.
What if I say vote: Sunbae?
Originally Posted by Sunbae:
Might as well bandwagon.
Vote: El Barto
Vote: Barto
Originally Posted by Zack:
nah
if barto flips red here i'd take a hard look at his sunbae votes as potential distancing fwiw, that would be in his style
i didnt think about the game after vulgard flipped
Players Votes
El Barto 5 (Hally, Zack, nebjiamn, Sunbae, Montmorency)
Zack 2 (EnderWiggin, El Barto)
glgl
barto/mont interactions this EoD have been weird but not sure if it’s in a w/w way
deserves a look over if bart flips red
gl
only one today not two
I just want to find 11,780 votes.
Originally Posted by Hally:
gut says more likely w!bart dancing around v!mont but not sure
barto/mont interactions this EoD have been weird but not sure if it’s in a w/w way
deserves a look over if bart flips red
Originally Posted by El Barto:
Let me just pull in some "fake electors" from the Backroom.
I just want to find 11,780 votes.
Originally Posted by Hally:
would agree
gut says more likely w!bart dancing around v!mont but not sure
Originally Posted by Hally:
if wolf im chopping mont -> neb i think
gut says more likely w!bart dancing around v!mont but not sure
Originally Posted by Hally:
And if, or rather when, Barto flips town?
barto/mont interactions this EoD have been weird but not sure if it’s in a w/w way
deserves a look over if bart flips red
btw all these people coming out of the woodwork to lynch my poor self…
glgl
:end:
Originally Posted by Sunbae:
da fuq?
if wolf im chopping mont -> neb i think
Originally Posted by Sunbae:
Heck no and no.
if wolf im chopping mont -> neb i think
thats my legacy:
Barto wolf -> mont -> if game not over neb
leave hally alone tomorrow
ender dyin tonight
Originally Posted by Sunbae:
What legacy? I'm the one who's dying here!
thats my legacy:
Barto wolf -> mont -> if game not over neb
Fish Finger of Suspicion: Sunbae
day over stop posting
Players Votes
El Barto 5 (Hally, Zack, nebjiamn, Sunbae, Montmorency)
Zack 2 (EnderWiggin, El Barto)
10 mins for corrections
Goodbye, cruel thread. I'll be laughing at you in the Mafia QuickTopic?.
Originally Posted by Visor:
Must be this inflation thing.
10 mins for corrections
El Barto has been killed. They were Vanilla Town.
Night ends in 24 hours at 8pm Thursday the 28th of July.
Alive: (6/9)
1. Hally
3. Sunbae
4. nebjiamn
6. Montmorency
7. EnderWiggin
9. Zack
Dead: (3/9)
5. Vulgard, Vanilla Town, died D1.
2. Raskolnikov, Vanilla Town, killed N1.
8. El Barto, Vanilla Town, died D2.
nebjiamn has been killed. They were Vanilla Town.
Day ends in 48 hours at 8pm Saturday the 30th of July. There are no locked votes or majority, whoever has the most votes at end of day dies.
Alive: (5/9)
1. Hally
3. Sunbae
6. Montmorency
7. EnderWiggin
9. Zack
Dead: (4/9)
5. Vulgard, Vanilla Town, died D1.
2. Raskolnikov, Vanilla Town, killed N1.
8. El Barto, Vanilla Town, died D2.
4. nebjiamn, Vanilla Town, killed N2.
You can post etc glgl
Yeah, he must have been bored, son of a gun. We're in a hard place. Villains must be between Zack-Hally-Sunbae after all, but it's too complicated to say who the false positive is.
We have to be unified in the vote.
damn, i should have wolf read benneh more so i’d die instead :shame:
i’m really tired today so doubt i’ll do much til tomorrow
Alright. I'm going to take a step back and start from scratch. While I still have ideas lingering I'm going to reread the entire thread with fresh eyes and see what all fits together. I am going to be as transparent as possible about my process here:
- I'll be spending the majority of my time in the first 12 hours reading rather than posting.
- I know the answer is one of Ender/Hally, Ender/Mont, Ender/Zack, Hally/Mont, Hally/Zack, and Mont/Zack. I will be strengthening the threshold for removing w/w pairs from these groups during my reread. Solving just a couple of these as not-paired makes the game immensely easier but I can't rule out things lightly.
- Now that there are more data points with nightkills, I will see if there's a common thread between their posts before they died (either obviously or as a second tier thought).
- I will try and work through the answer of ?what was their plan if they were the team? for each team.
- While I am doing that, I'll be looking at the posts on an individual level to see who was consistently solving, who was just piling on, and who was just twiddling their thumbs/spinning their wheels while we chopped villagers back to back. Also, who seems to be trying to set themselves up to be "correct" once it happens.
- I want to check if there are any pairs that seem to continuously be on the other side of arguments from each other, as that seems like a pretty good plan for wolves in v/v days.
- I will also be looking for people that seem to pile on or adjust their reads with the flow of the thread rather than having their own thoughts/opinions. I think this will be the key one but we know now that at no point were wolves really concerned near eods as both were runaway villager wagons.
- Try to put all of these pieces together in a nice, neat, orderly manner that others can follow
- I will then be posting more tomorrow afternoon/evening. That'll be my prime posting time where I'll lay out all of my things.
I will be entirely unavailable Saturday. Which means we're going to need to have our decision made in the overnight phase on Friday. I will make my vote then and hope that I'm both correct and that the villagers agree with me.
My biggest thing today is that half of you are wolves and I'm not going to listen to a single thing you say today. The wolves simply need to get one incorrect vote and purposefully brought all of us together to the end because they didn't think we'd be able to avoid that. So I will live in the past ? where all the information is ? and then make my vote instead of basing it on t0an or ate or ?seems villagery? posting today from potential wolves that are close to a win. Then it's up to the other villagers to vote with or against me.
I will also take a moment to try and lay out all the reasons why I think I'm findable as a villager:
- I have, clearly, been on my own this game. There have been no pocketing attempts, no persuasion, no trying to get others to follow me. I did not at any point try to convince someone else to vote Hally, to vote Vulgard, to vote Mont, or to vote Bart with me. I laid out my reasons for voting where I did and just voted there.
- At no point have I made any posts that are designed to make people look favorably to me. There is no agenda where I'm trying to look good for future days. I haven't been second guessing villager wagons, I haven't been defending LHF even when they are clearly going to die, and I have made any elaborate cases to really hammer home why people should vote with me. I have done with while dealing with constant pressure from the get go and as a wolf I would need to be trying to dismantle that pressure somehow. Instead I've just continued doing what I've been doing because I think I'm correct.
- I think it's clear that I'm also alone in this game. I am not on the same page this game with anybody. There's nothing to show some macro plan for pushing the game in a direction I want with another player.
- When people were giving me crap about memeing too much, I didn't say "oh no I'm looking bad let me back off". I just started to meme harder. I don't care about my thread position or how I'm viewed in the grand scheme of things. Granted, this one might end up biting me in the ass here if I'm the game losing chop but I do think it's villagery.
Basically, my approach is that of villager me and I think I'm findable here.
I am now out until at least the overnight phase and most likely tomorrow afternoon.
sunbae, did you just write both of those walls?
Originally Posted by Montmorency:
why not ender?
Yeah, he must have been bored, son of a gun. We're in a hard place. Villains must be between Zack-Hally-Sunbae after all, but it's too complicated to say who the false positive is.
We have to be unified in the vote.