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I guess a made and a wiseguy can successfully kill.
Me thinks the mafia should go through the list of vig nights to see which of the townies that have participated in enough killings to reach a status where they can operate in twos.
There must be a reason Seamus made that initial mistake and one would be that it normally wouldn't succeed.
Arent you a Cunnio?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xehh II
I'll take your word for it. The 'taunt' left by the killers does seem somewhat familiar with the early game hit on Andres that was later edited out because he was Director. I know we were talking about this a few (game) days ago. Didn't that hit have a similar comment said to the victim? If I remember correctly, it said something about Don Barzini. I have no idea who belongs to what family anymore, so I can't point any fingers at a particular person or persons, but if you're right and a calling card is mandatory, my money would be on whoever it was that tried to off Andres early on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
The mistake seems clear to me. The original version sounded like a failure due to luck, which we all know that Dons have the first time they are attacked while unprotected. Since Elite Ferret was never attacked before N13, that should apply to him... unless it only applies to people who started the game as Dons. If EF's original Don was killed and he rose to that position, he probably wouldn't have gotten the luck ability that all starting Dons had. Thus, Seamus probably just forgot that EF wasn't a starting Don and gave him a survival by luck that he shouldn't have had. Of course, this assumes that EF wasn't a stating Don. Again, I have no idea who is in what family, so if EF was a starting Don, you can add a +1 to the "really confused observers" column.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane
That hit was a "favour" hit. Each Don had a favour that they could collect from one other Don. I had to give my made investigations results to Tataglia as a favour. Don Cunnio made that hit as a "favour" for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
The town might just be wanting to frame a mafia family for the hit.
Note that a sniper rifle was used as in previous hits that occurred.
Secondly, the town might still have a serial killer pro town who paired up with a bystander townie (who would have no input in the kill other than be present) to make the kill and have it appear as a mafia hit.
Why did you want me dead so early in the game? I thought you loved me :bigcry:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
No way, the mistake was a Luca protection clearly. Someone pulled up in a car, pushed a girl to take the bullet. EF leapt in, and drove off. The driver said "Sorry about the girl" EF says "That's ok".Quote:
The mistake seems clear to me. The original version sounded like a failure due to luck, which we all know that Dons have the first time they are attacked while unprotected.
But obviously the mistake was simple, the Luca was not protecting his Don. It seems to me that someone knew that EF would not be protected, and informed one of the other families. Finally some proper, cunning play.
If this is the case (and it's only a theory, but it would be cool if it was), then I say bravo! you deserve to win Don Capitano :bow:
Kage, I gave you my word and I kept it. My family did not attack Elite Ferret.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
We used our one (and only) possible hit on Norwegian Nerd (EDIT: as was agreed) and the Cunnio calling card has now been seen for the first time in the game. We use crossbows (and oddly enough, planned to drop roses at all the deaths, but since that's your signature, I guess Seamus has omitted that part of the family signature - clearly we think alike). My family does not use guns, we did not kill EF.
You must have done, Seamus would not have let Kage change his sig for this kill, the town cannot kill with just two people and your sig has never been seen before. You killed me and should be lynched for it.
edit: my luca died ages ago as everyone should know as a detective had results on her.
Ah, that finally explains the comment that confused us townies for a long time. "Prego Don Barzini" was a statement saying you're welcome for fulfilling your favor. Is it possible that the EF hit was also a favor being called in by another family? You say that Barzini and Tataglia used their favors, and Stracchi is dead. However, that still leaves Corleone (who apparently still have some members left) and Cunnio. Perhaps the Corleone people did the hit as a favor for Cunnio, or vice versa?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Maybe i wanted the attacker or atleast one of them dead. you were protected that night by your guards as you were a director. Or maybe i just made a honest mistake by using my favor on target that was automatically protected. or maybe i just wanted to see what would happen.~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Vote Kage, die mafia die! (We can't lynch directors right? Grrrrr...)
If anyone wants to attack me, try to do that :yes:. This doctor still has several tricks up my sleeves... :beam:
Thats possible in theory.but only the original Dons could call in the favors, so that leaves us with only the Cunnio in theory, since the Corleone Don is dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Vote:Kagemusha
If I'm still alive, this vote goes to you. Because I'm such a good guy :beam:
FOS Caius, clear bandwagon.:laugh4: Am i now the main evil in the eyes of town?You do also remember that you can lynch a director?:smash:Quote:
Originally Posted by Caius
2 killers + dead target = mafia hit
:beam:
Funny how some mafiosos don't see the end of it yet.
CR
What's the point? FOS Teh Evil MafiaQuote:
FOS Caius
:inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Caius
FoS Craterus and his family, they broke the truce.
Craterus: :bow:
FoS: the townies who are trying to mess up the minds of decent, honest and hard working mafiosi.
:beam:
:bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Elite Ferret, I put this to you: Who killed NN? I have only two members in my family. That gives us one kill. It had to be NN, crossbows have not been seen in the game until this stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite Ferret
Kage has two kills at his disposal, one (AFAIK) is accounted for.
Also, and I promise you this, the Cunnio family signature DID contain roses (originally, we had a crossbow bolt with a red rose tied to it) and now that we've had our first kill, Seamus may have removed the rose part for both families so as to avoid (or create?) confusion.
Fact is, I could not possibly have killed you. I told you both in PM that I would be going after Norwegian_Nerd and he is now dead. No-one else has claimed this kill and no-one else can claim the kill signature that was used on him. Your death clearly came from elsewhere and I'm looking at Kage.
There was no rose left in the elite ferret write up. We were not responsible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craterus
Unvote: Shlin28 Vote: Kagemusha
There was no rose left in ours. However, that message I sent so long ago clearly said "We will use crossbows with a rose attached to the bolt or left in the victim's breast pocket of their suit."Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
However, I don't think I have the PM anymore, inbox has been frantic for the past month. So, we are stuck without an explanation. At least until the end game.
We couldnt have killed EliteFerrets.We have to leave a rose to all our kills,simple as that. Also i wouldnt give away my protection to kill anyone.EDIT: Craterus,you cant use our insignia, so missing your roses is waste of time.
If anyone knows and doesn't mind telling, who are/were the "Italian Destiny" family? Those guys were my #1 fear for a long time, but now we're down to roses and crossbows, so they seem to have disappeared.