Congrats, Plutoboyz! Nice empire. -M
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Congrats, Plutoboyz! Nice empire. -M
well, actually I have more evil plan. My force are divided into 2 division. north and south.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hannibal Khan the Great
The north will capture most balkan, then devide into two. north1 will go to west conquer Germanic, Celtic and Iberian. north2 will go capture Ilyria then Raze italy then wait for south2.
The south will be devided into two south1 will dominate anatolia and then greece, south2 will devastate arabia, then Egypt. after that join with North2 for Carthage.
thanks, and beware! my forces already in Balkan. >:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mulceber
Real nice Saka empire Pluto! May your enemies shiver in fear. :P
thanks. just wait until I figure how to build fleet. once I manged to build fleet, you'll see my HA in casse. mwahahahaha...:PQuote:
Originally Posted by Arthur, king of the Britons
If you're planning on building the ships in the Baltic, have fun with the pirates.... In my Sweboz campaign my invasion of Britian is indefinitely stalled because there are two full stacks of pirates, as well as 5 or 6 mini stacks with only 3-4 ships running around. I can handle the little stacks, but the two full stacks are pretty much impossible because they always sit right next to each other, which means that if I attack them they reinforce each other and I'm facing 40+ ships at once. I certainly don't have the money for 40+ ships of my own...Quote:
Originally Posted by plutoboyz
When I conquered the world with Baktria, those fullstack pirates went all the way to Rhodes, I amassed a fleet there (A LOT ships and scored double heroic victories, because I had them attack me!)Quote:
Originally Posted by WinsingtonIII
But thats with sturdy Hellene ships, not with Sweboz, that would be very hard!
~Fluvius
for my invasion of britain as Sweboz, I embarked my full stack on two ships, merged together, at Bacagos (the ships of corse have been attacked by pirates, but they didn't sank and escaped near the coast of britain, with 8 men still alife on them...) at bacagos, a waiting army embarked, I disembarked them on britain, and the next turn my flotilla was sunked, so my army was standing without any back up on unfriendly territory, after several heroic victory, i managed to conquered (and destroy) casse, with the same army, same general... He had 10 stars (at the end of the conquest)...
I finally got it to work! :cry:
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Nice to know that you finally got that screenshot capturing thing to work, Madoushi. Nice Makedonian empire, that faction is really quite something.
Here is a brief summary on my empire, with a lot of info I haven't shared with you guys before. I've lost all savegames up to 193 BC, that's why I lack pictures in this entry.
The Antigonid ΒΑΣΕΛΕΙΣ ΤΟΝ ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ (and other noteworthy members of the Antigonid line):
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1. ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΑΝΤΙΓΟΝΟΣ ΓΟΝΑΤΑΣ: (Reign 272 - 259 BC), it was he who defended the Makedonian homelands from ΠΥΡΡὉΣ, ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΤΟΝ ΕΠΕΙΡΟΣ and conquered the southern Hellenic City states, Athenai and Sparte. Before his death he launched an invasion of Epeiros, but succumbed to a fever before any decisive battles were fought.
2. ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΑΛΚΥΟΝΕΟΣ ΝΙΚΑΤΟΡ: (Reign 259 - 228 BC) In his youth he conquered Dardonia as well as the islands of Crete and Rhodos. Later when his father died it was who he took command of the royal forces and defeated ΠΥΡΡὉΣ and thus put an end to the Epeirot threat to Makedonia. Rather than establishing a Satrapy he integrated Epeiros directly into the Makedonian homelands and many Epeirots were given Makedonian citizenship, which ensured their loyalty. When the Ptolemaio attacked the Arche Seleukeia and conquered most of their western holdings, ΑΛΚΥΟΝΕΟΣ responded quickly. By 232 BC he had conquered all of Asia Minor and the Levantine. When he entered Hierosolyma he made sure his army made as little damage as possible, and he allowed the Ioudaioi to practise their own religion and all temples devoted to another god than the Judean one were banned within the city walls. The Ioudaioi were even allowed to keep their independence and would only have to form a strong alliance with the Makedones and the Ioudaioi hailed ΑΛΚΥΟΝΕΟΣ as a grand saviour. One day when ΑΛΚΥΟΝΕΟΣ was going for a walk a young man walked up to him with a dagger in his hand. He stabbed him 12 times in the chest, surprised, with his dying breath ΑΛΚΥΟΝΕΟΣ said: “What was it all for?” The young man was a poor junior officer from Athenai who was enraged by the lack of loot during the conquest of Hierosolyma and whose parents back in Hellas depended on the money he sent them. In a matter of seconds after the Basileus’s death the murderer was cut down by the Hypaspistai Royal corps.
3. ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΠΕΡΣΕΥΣ (Reign 228 – 212 BC) When his father battled the Ptolemaio in Minor Asia and the Levant, ΠΕΡΣΕΥΣ “took the fight” to the enemy’s “homeland”, Aigyptos.
The Ptolemaio did not suspect this and was forced to flee to Meroe while Makedonia conquered all of their other holdings. Later after the death of ΑΛΚΥΟΝΕΟΣ they were forced to sign a very humiliating peace treaty with the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ.
When ΠΕΡΣΕΥΣ was crowned ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ entered a period of peace and prosperity one that would last until the betrayal of the Arche Seleukeia in 216 BC.
A long and bitter war between the former allies was at hand, one that ended in Makedonian victory and the inclusion of Hayasdan and Babylonia in the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ.
In the spring of 214 BC the forces of Kart-Hadast without a warning or declaration of war, invaded Aigyptos. ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΠΕΡΣΕΥΣ rode out to meet them and won many a heroic victories. But at the end there were too many of them and he and his mobile forces were annihilated by the sons of Baal-Hammon, and thus he perished in 212 BC, leaving the throne to his second son ΣΕΛΕΦΚΟΣ aged only 17 years old.
4. ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ΣΕΛΕΦΚΟΣ (Reign 212 – 195)
When ΣΕΛΕΦΚΟΣ arrived in Aigyptos he pushed the Kart-Hadastei out of there with great difficulty. He conquered Kyrene and seized the site of the Oracle of Ammon known as Ammonion. A prophesy was offered to him by the Oracle, though being an ignorant and anti-religious, inbreed buffoon, he rejected the offer and went further westwards, towards Kart-Hadast. News arrived that the ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ’s son had died under suspicious circumstances, and because of these turn of events the ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ fell into a deep depression, one that interfered with his “work”.
For a short period of time he held the city in his grasp, but was in 198 BC forced to fall back towards Aigyptos. The Kart-Hadastei was impressed by his prowess in combat and so they wanted the war to come to an end. Neither side hade anything to win on prolonged conflict, for both the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ and the Safot Softim biQarthadast, had lost many men and mnai. So in 197 BC there was at last peace between the two rival nations. On his return to Aigyptos in 195 BC he was assassinated, by a robed figure, seemingly of Makedonian origin. He was able to escape but, he dropped an important piece of evidence, the signet ring of ΠΕΡΔΙΚΚΑΣ (Perdikkas), the corrupt and selfish brother of the Basileus. He himself claimed that the assassin was of Punic origin, sent from Kart-Hadast. He had planed to proclaim himself as ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ and his son ΕΥΒΟΥΛΙΔΕΣ as his heir, currently being in Syria. The popular Strategos ΙΣΟΔΟΡΙΑΝΟΣ and his family however decided to stand against this great injustice for the greater good of the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ. With no ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ ruling the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ at the moment, civil war seemed inevitable.
Alexandros, his family and the ΒΑΣΕΛΕΙΣ of the Alexandrid line:
(Since I’ve already written about many of these things this part is a bit short)
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ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, the nephew of ΑΝΤΙΓΟΝΟΣ ΓΟΝΑΤΑΣ were put in charge of an army and was to Illyria, a lawless region from which many pirates hailed from. The intent of this trip was to stop the constant pirate raids on Makedonia, and to hopefully subjugate the people of the land. Before travelling to Illyria however he married an Epeirote princess named Chryse. She was the only surviving member of the Aeacid dynasty and daughter of ΠΥΡΡὉΣ ΤΟΝ ΕΠΕΙΡΟΣ and the marriage was to cement the relations between the two families. Thus the family of ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ and ΠΥΡΡὉΣ ΤΟΝ ΕΠΕΙΡΟΣ was forged into one and all children of ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ could claim descent from ΠΥΡΡὉΣ and even ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ (!)
ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ nevertheless dealt with the pirate problem and he and his descendants were to govern Illyria and eventually further even regions further westwards.
In 265 BC the First Romaioi war brook out, and ΑΓΙΣ, first born son of ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ led the Makedonian forces in opposition. The war ended with Makedonian triumph and the Romaioi were forced to part with northern Italia, a region the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ gave to their keltoi allies, the Arveni to act as a buffer.
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1. ΜΕΓΑΣ ΙΣΟΔΟΡΙΑΝΟΣ (Born 235 BC) (Reign 193- 173 BC)
When the Second Romaioi war broke out ΙΣΟΔΟΡΙΑΝΟΣ was given command of the makedonian forces. During his campaign, he was fascinated by the road systems of the Romaioi and also their military composition. After barely surviving an ambush by the flexible forces of the SPQR, he decided that a Makedonian version of these troops would be useful, and thus the Makedonian Thorakitai was born.
After the Romaioi was properly subjugated by his forces he left his uncle in charge of Italia, and set sail towards Makedonia. For Civil War seemed inevitable and ΙΣΟΔΟΡΙΑΝΟΣ, being an unselfish person could not let this tyrant impostor take the throne of Makedonia in his filthy hands.
ΙΣΟΔΟΡΙΑΝΟΣ was crowned ΒΑΣΙΛΕΥΣ in the winter of 193 BC, and left for the Syria where ΠΕΡΔΙΚΚΑΣ and his few supporters were. When he arrived he fought a fierce battle against the forces of ΠΕΡΔΙΚΚΑΣ . In the end his veterans easily defeated the forces of the impostor. ΠΕΡΔΙΚΚΑΣ son was spared, for he was too young to be put to blame for his father’s crimes, this choice was questioned by many however. ΙΣΟΔΟΡΙΑΝΟΣ were able to return to Pella the next spring. During the following years he made radical military reforms, completely replacing the phalangitai with Thorakitai as the new rank and file soldiers.
Vast building projects across Makedonia were being erected, among those romaioi styled roads, which would help the armies of Makedonia to quickly reach their destination.
When the Second Kart-Hadstei War began in 173 BC ΙΣΟΔΟΡΙΑΝΟΣ sent his son ΝΕΙΚΩΝ, a man destined for greatness, to Africa.
ΙΣΟΔΟΡΙΑΝΟΣ pasted away quietly in his sleep a week after his son’s departure, knowing that for the time being the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ was safe.
2. ΝΕΙΚΩΝ ΝΙΚΑΤΩΡ (Reign 173- 144 BC) (I’m going through this quickly since I’ve already written about it some pages back) ΝΕΙΚΩΝ ΝΙΚΑΤΩΡ won many heroic victories against the Kart-Hadast and conquered all their lands. He even conquered all of Iberia and started training Thorakitai from amongst the Libikoi and Keltoi as a sort of auxiliary force, the Thorakitai’s training and equipment were also to be financed by the state after ΝΕΙΚΩΝ ΝΙΚΑΤΩΡ’s refoms.
ΝΕΙΚΩΝ ΝΙΚΑΤΩΡ also gave Makedonian citizenship to all Hellenes within the ΑΡΧΕ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚΕ, and financed major art projects around the ΑΡΧΕ. Hellenic culture flourished under his rule and all of mainland Hellas was included directly into the Makedonian homelands.
He just like his father died quietly in his sleep in the capital aged 75.
3. ΜΕΓΑΣ ΟΛΥΜΠΙΑΔΕΣ ΝΙΚΑΤΩΡ ΣΟΤΕΡ (Reign 144 - ? BC)
Explanation of Greek names:
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Comments are appreciated. :P
@Arthur
Here's a comment!
That was a fine read! I always like the story telling from the point of the ruler's reign, wether it is about the actions of a historical ruler in a history book or a fictional one like in this mini aar, I really liked reading it. The details like the Thorakitai reform and the Roman road adaption made it even better. You also spiced things up with some good old Hellenic palace intrigue. If I were to report my campaigns like this it wouldnt be much fun because it would only be about succes and the conqueror of this or that. Yours has more roleplaying and some setbacks.
Keep it up!
~Fluvius
Nice Story Arthur. Why not making an official AAR ?
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Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus
Wow thanks guys! Tell you what, since I got so nice comments/feedback from you two I actually might start an official AAR :2thumbsup:. Though it probably not be updated too often and will take a while until I start doing the AAR. And I already have some things planned for the ΑΡΧH ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΚH, hopefully things that will be interesting/surprising etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwissBarbar
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The Aedui confederation was almost broken. Dariortum had fallen to the troops of Caesar Gallicus, and the only city remaining was Lemonum. In the time it took the Proconsul to establish order in Dariortum and march south, however, Aedui supporters within the city of Avaricum staged a revolt that expelled the peaceful Arverni ruler from the city. Apart from Burdigala, the entirety of Aquitania was in armed revolt. Caesar knew that the revolt had to be put down quickly, lest the surrounding provinces, now at peace with Rome, take the insurrection as inspiration to create trouble. With that in mind, he assigned his lieutenant, A. Scipio to attack Avaricum with two legions while he himself took on the larger Gallic army at Lemonum. As he approached the city, Caesar's scouts reported that the Gallic army had drawn up and was prepared for battle. The enemy was numerous, but largely composed of raw recruits, no match for Caesar's veterans. After a brief battle they routed, and the city surrendered itself to the Proconsul, who duly spared them the shame of slavery. A few days later, news arrived that Scipio had encountered even less resistance and had taken few casualties at Lemonum. Breathing a sigh of relief, Caesar took up the quill and sent a dispatch to the Senate: "gallia est pacata."
News of Caesar's victory was well-received by all in the Senate, although each faction had its different reasons. Associates and Political Allies of the Proconsul lauded his victory and immediately began to speak of awarding a triumph. The moderates offered praise to the gods that at least the war was over, while the conservatives crowed that any pretext for prolonging Caesar's consulship had died with the war. Once Caesar laid down his Imperium, he would be fair game in the courts. This inconvenience was not overlooked either by Caesar or the Populares. Thus, the tribune D. Sempronius Gracchus called together the popular assembly and delivered a motion that Caesar be allowed to run for a second consulship in absentia. The motion passed overwhelmingly. The Senate was in uproar. Even the moderates protested this break with constitutional government, and when Caesar won the consulship of 125, tension turned into violence. The Senate voted to declare Caesar an enemy of the Res Publica, but Gracchus issued his veto. The Senate ignored this gesture and sent the Consular D. Cornelius Arvina north to confront the Proconsul. Meanwhile they sent Caesar's new colleague, a conservative named Cn. Valerius Flaccus across the Adriatic to take command of the legions of Macedonia and Illyricum and bring them back to Italy for the defense of the Capital.
In early spring of 125, the forces of Caesar and Arvina met in Etruria.
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Fighting was harsh, as eight well-disciplined and experienced legions struggled against each other.
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Caesar's right wing hovered on the brink of defeat for almost an hour, enduring a withering attack from the forces of the Senate.
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The left wing and center were faring much better, however, and soon the majority of the Republican forces were routing.
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With more of his men freed up, Caesar flanked the forces battering his right wing and completed his victory. As his soldiers were picking through the dead, they found Arvina, still alive, trapped underneath the weight of his dead horse. As per orders, they brought him to their Imperator. Arvina offered Caesar his surrender, and with a kiss on the cheek, the Consul pardoned him and tasked him with returning to Rome with his instructions for the Senate: in this state of emergency they were to pass the Senatus Consultum Ultimum and start drawing up plans to allocate land for his veterans. Meanwhile the Consul began to prepare to cross to Greece and face his colleague.
This was never to come to pass, however, for before long, information began to trickle in about what had occurred in Greece. Flaccus had made his way to Macedonia to pick up the two legions stationed there, and at the same time sent a message to the propraetor of Illyricum, C. Claudius Pulcher, with instructions to meet him at Ambrakia with the two legions allotted to his province. Pulcher was an old Aristocrat who had long been a member of the Optimates and was thus considered trustworthy. Among his friends, however, he had frequently voiced monarchic sentiments, and he was very ambitious. Seeing the possibilities of Civil Conflict, he disobeyed Flaccus' instructions and marched east. In the mountains dividing Macedonia from Epeiros, he ambushed the Consul and his two legions.
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Flaccus was caught off-guard by this betrayal and thus, his forces were quickly routed by Pulcher's men. In the wake of this disaster, Flaccus presented himself to the Propraetor and offered unconditional surrender. Pulcher had him executed. He then made preparations to send his two legions to guard Macedonia while he traveled alone with his bodyguard to Rome.
Caesar received his new ally with open arms, praising him for bringing a swift end to the conflict and supporting the rights of the Consul, though he took care not to mention Pulcher's treatment of the other Consul for that year. The Senate began to go through the process of selecting a replacement for his colleague, but Caesar demurred. He told them he would serve the remainder of his term sine collega. Disgruntled, but happy that there was to be no further violence, the Senate accepted and, on the urging of the populares, awarded Caesar a triumph, which he celebrated in fall of the same year.
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Wow, so the Romaioi are deploying Legiones Sacae to fight Caesar?:clown:
Other way around :yes: Caesar is deploying Legiones Sacae to defeat the Senate. :clown: Speaking of which, I just want to offer my thanks to Arthur, for helping me to mod EB so that I could have the legiones sacae. -M
Nice and interesting read.
Maybe you should have switched banners of though :clown:
I would have, except I don't know how. Any advice? -M
Open your RTW-EBmap, open the EB-map in it, open the Preferences-map in that one, and you should find a txt-file named 'preferences'. Mine has a line "SHOW_BANNERS:FALSE" in it. I guess yours has a "SHOW_BANNERS:TRUE". Just change it.
kind regards,
Andy
https://img683.imageshack.us/img683/9812/199bc.jpg
This is the first time when I managed to play beyond 200 BC! Though my campaign is still far from completion.
It's 199 BC, EB on Alx.exe, Atraphoenix legions mod with some changes to the EDU (-4 to attack for all spearmen and some minor changes). The question is - what faction am I controlling? (hint - it's not Casse)
Averni?
Sauromatae ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Skuda
rome, trying to follow a near accurate conquest timeline...?
Probably not. Otherwise the Karthadastim would almost certainly be out of Iberia and he would have Korsim and Sardin already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duguntz
Arverni because they always loose against aedui....Only hold gergovia
Hehe... It's Koinon Hellenon
I was going to say that Kyrene rebels to the AS and not the KH, so you were most likely them.
That map is pretty good for 199, usually by that time on my games, AS or Ptolemy are gone and the other one controls like half the map. It looks like the Ptolemies have the upper hand, but AS isn't done yet. Luso are also usually well into Gaul by that time.
I conquered Kyrene by myself and at the same time lost Trapezous to AS and Chersonesos to EleutheroiQuote:
Originally Posted by Unintended BM
AS and Ptolemaioi are concentrated on me and therefore last 30 years or so ) Though recently I run short of money (no more than 30-35000 mnai) and accepted Ptolemaioi offer of protectorate. SPQR also made Aedui their protectorate so they are expanding northwest VERY slowly. Lusotannan almost lost a war agaist Qarthadastim but then I gave them loads of money and they started counter-offensive. Saka and Baktria look like fightimg AS together so Seleukeia is having trouble subjugating Baktria even after they had knocked out Pahlava
Thanks for the advice, Andy, I'll be sure to do that for the next battles I post.
Nice Empire, Skuda - maybe if you take Sardis from the AS, they could be persuaded to make peace with you - generally speaking, the AI only desires a state of war if they have a border with you. Eliminate that border and they'll give you peace. -M
I know. But after capture of Sardis I will have to hold the defence in three regions of Asia Minor instead of two. Then again, Sardis with its two mines can make up to 6000 mnai per season, so it can support at least half stack of able troops alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mulceber
Sounds like a plan :thumbsup: -M