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Tally as of post 360:
Lynch votes
3 votes: Dp101 (Csargo, Askthepizzaguy, El Barto)
2 votes: El Barto (crimson_snow, Fredwood)
1 votes: Autolycus (Jowy)
1 votes: Manasi (Champ)
1 votes: Novice (autolycus)
1 votes: Winston Hughes (Logic)
1 votes: Champ (Manasi)
1 votes: Sooh (BSmith)
1 votes: No Lynch (Montmorency)
1 votes: Csargo (Dp101)
1 votes: monty (Cuthillius)
1 votes: Cuthilius (novice)
Voting history:Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
The second paragraph here feels very scummy to me, but I also can't explain why. I just can't come up with a single reason for scum to ever actually post it, in this situation, but the tone of it is horrible regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
Sorry for quotewalls, on mobile.
Fredwood I understand, but why Novice?Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I continue to be your biggest fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
Thx bbyQuote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
Not done with isos but this is important for me to get out sooner rather than later
@Logic
I have you as a solid town lean, but here is my one complaint with your iso. Your footprint is very small, focused on one person for very straightforward reasons, and you mentioned you're willing to vote the no lynchers (at the time).
I want to lock you townie. I need more from you because the footprint is too small. Give me as many reads on the individual players and game state as possible. I think I can put you away as lock town on day one if you do, but I'd need to see it first.
most important is why you feel that way. I may / may not care about or agree with the leans themselves.
Almost done with all isos, wanted to respond to this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Csargo
No, I don't think I'm considering you for a lynch until near final-whatever. Looking over your iso, I saw much townie-ness that I wasn't feeling in real time because I was focusing my attention elsewhere, and then felt sudden paranoia about you being a power wolf.
The iso is really solid though. Maybe your best town game I've seen in ages.
One thing though, I have a lot of experience playing with you, but I've never been comfortable reading your alignment confidently because you were, for most of those games, a 1 or few post a round player and your footprint is small and your thoughts are focused on few people at a time. You also don't rustle or really react to pressure, so I have no idea how to forcibly read you without your cooperation in most games.
I need a long vote history from you and a chance to "read the room" and see others' attitudes toward you to read you.
Here, after just your d1 iso, I feel confident again. And I don't think I've ever felt that way before.
Not moving my vote on dp. That said it's mercy rule time- I've said what I feel and why and will lynch him today if nothing better. I will talk to him as if I'm considering both universes, but I won't push him with words, just my vote. I also didn't re-iso him because what little he posted since I logged off last wasn't enough to town read him.
In any case, this is the new list, after re-read of whole game, plus isos on everyone.
Sorted leans with changes.
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Askthepizzaguy
--------------------Town
Logic near lock
crimson_snow 85
Csargo- best iso 80 <----moved way up
Cuthillius- 75 <----moved up
--------------------Townish
El Barto- 55 <----moved up
Manasi- 50
--------------------Maybe not scum
Montmorency- neutral
Champ- not wolfy (read of town is thinner compared to better info/stronger reads.)
--------------------Null range
Winston Hughes- null
Sooh- null
autolycus- null
BSmith- null
--------------------Bit wolfy
novice- mixed, bit wolfy. <---down
Fredwood- not great <---down
--------------------Wolfy
Jowy <---down
Dp101 <---no improvement
--------------------Must die
Not that confident yet
Votes I think should change:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
The votes on El barto, the vote on Autolycus, the vote on Csargo, the vote on Cuth.
Csargo- only the posts with content that gave me any reaction.
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Conclusion: Feels good, man.
Manasi- only the posts that gave me feels.
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Conclusion: feels town, but not a lock.
Let's see: I didn't think you had much of a point because I thought you were just referring to a random opening vote, but he does indeed follow up with specifically asking you to respond to the vote, which you then brush off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredwood
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Originally Posted by El Barto
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Originally Posted by Fredwood
So I'd say El Barto's later switch to Dp without further comment warrants an explanation from El Barto, yes. Enough for a vote? Sure, on day 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by El BartoEnough is enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
I would have voted crimson_snow first as a matter of policy, but you do not get to do this and live.
vote: Dp101
El barto- going from scum to town lean
Conclusion: Mixed feelings, but I feel a lot better about his town possibilities.Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Logic
Conclusion: Feels pretty townie. His thought process is very straightforward. Sadly, he's not spreading out very much. That's my only complaint. I could probably lock him up as town with more investment from him.Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Cuthillius- the townie
Conclusion: Think Cuth is playing it town, no scum vibe at all.Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Champ- not shining as bright as my other stars, but not wolfy yet
Conclusion: Town read on him is a lot more null at this point.Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
For me it's that he's interacting intelligently with the thread. Maybe it shouldn't be alignment indicative, but it's giving me warm fuzzy feelings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
What's so scummy about Jowy?
I have no problem telling people why I think X and Y are townies, and pushing my suspect, but that's as much of my notes and isos as I feel comfortable revealing this early.
He has a wolfy agenda and a small footprint. His process is also badly conflicting with his actual pushes.Quote:
Originally Posted by novice
Do an iso on jowy and tell me your opinions, anyone. Do you see what I saw or what townie-ness do you see? Point me at it. I've asked this before.
Monty reads not necessarily scummy but not townie either. 3p/Sk selfish non-neutral.
Some ISO'ing of my own then. Jowy just seems to the point, although I see now that he pocketed me nicely with his first few posts.
To the point:
Pocketing me by voting my voter:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jowy
Pocketing:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jowy
To the point:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jowy
To the point:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jowy
Mindmeld:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jowy
To the point:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jowy
These next two post are exactly what I would have been thinking and doing at that point if I has been awake. Well, except I wouldn't have picked Autolycus as an alternative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jowy
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Originally Posted by Jowy
To the point:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jowy
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Originally Posted by Jowy
I see what you mean about his small footprint, but it's not like he's been spamming on a single topic, the entire thread had a pretty small footprint last night. Do elaborate on the other points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
This is one of the fastest org games I've ever played sos.
Anything worth catching up on? I skimmed through ATPG isos.
I'll probably move my vote after Cuth addresses it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I like this post by Cuth, the rest seem well within his scum range.
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Originally Posted by Cuthillius
Maybe looking at Csargo and how he's been weirdly aggressive in his pushing of me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Manasi
Official Tally as of #389
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Day 1 ends in:
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3 Dp101 (Csargo, Askthepizzaguy, El Barto)
2 El Barto (crimson_snow, Fredwood)
1 Askthepizzaguy (Montmorency)
1 autolycus (Jowy)
1 Champ (Manasi)
1 Csargo (Dp101)
1 Cuthillius (novice)
1 Manasi (Champ)
1 Montmorency (Cuth) [edit: fixed]
1 novice (autolycus)
1 Sooh (BSmith)
1 Winston Hughes (Logic)
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Not Voting: @Sooh and @Winston Hughes -- reminder to vote before eod
Not Posting: (everyone has posted :2thumbsup:)
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