looking good! it is a real shame about the exporter problem.. i think we of Zulu Tw are gonna find the same problem sooner rather than later... annoying CA community help/information protocols :wall:
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looking good! it is a real shame about the exporter problem.. i think we of Zulu Tw are gonna find the same problem sooner rather than later... annoying CA community help/information protocols :wall:
Great animations! One question: With the complications and all, can you still include these units or the game just won't allow it?
The units are in m8 don't worry, just not as animated as we would like them to be.
It was just to show you how frustrating it can be, in theory they could work fine, but we have to implement less looking options not because we cannot make them, but because of the RTW modding limitations.
The hours some team members spend is finding solutions around these kind of limitations to still produce something acceptable is time consuming and unnecessary if only CA would help us and give us with some very basic tools, they can easily provide.
LZoF
Well, I hope you find a solution and fast too!:2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Zimoa of Flanders
Don't work too hard though, it's just a mod:sweatdrop:
In my opinion CA is doing the most finansially sound thing:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Zimoa of Flanders
Keeping mods on leashe so they dont provide a competing alternative to future titles...
Just imagine if Chivalry TW could have Crusades and a Pope...for FREE, who would have bought M2TW?
Proffesorspatula nailed the matter perfectly:
"I don't think there's much need for CA to support modders so heavily. They do provide a fair bit of feedback and modding opportunities though, hence there are dozens of mods out there, many of high quality. But the fact is, the Total War series has little competition. Other games may provide much better strategy options and more realistic empire building or whatever, but they don't have TW's massive 3D battles too. Until there are many high quality games similar in scope to TW, CA can do things as they like. The FPS market, especially the online part, is highly competitive and lucrative, hence developers are keen for others to mod their games, provide feedback etc to keep users interested in their title and not someone else's. If EA brought out a direct rival to TW, and it was actually bloody good, I wager modding would be a lot more open in the future. Whether they'd ask the modders to help out with their games though and provide further content, I don't know."
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=57302
Hellenes
I disagree. The mods have given CA plenty of extra free advertising in the form of articles on websites and many magazines. Mods mean extra content so more games are sold especially when a Napoleonic fanatic buys a medieval game which he hates but the NTW mod makes it worth the purchase.
That has nothing to do with our problem. Features like that need extra code. We do not ask for an even more moddable engine (although that would be fine), we only ask for a proper model/animation importer/exporter. And if it weren't for Vercingetorix we would have gotten one from CA according to, I believe JeromeGrasDyke. CA thought that Verc's tool was decent enough and let it go. So I really hope that CA releases a importer/exporter for MTW2 soon enough before a coder does so and the same thing happens.Quote:
Just imagine if Chivalry TW could have Crusades and a Pope...for FREE, who would have bought M2TW?
So I don't believe it is a loss of profit that keeps CA from releasing the tool. They just can't be bothered anymore since we have something already, that it is bugged is not their problem.
On the contrary, CA does not want the modding of its games because if you have a beautiful mod like this, who would want to buy their games when you can download a free and pretty awesome mod? I would like to give the modders in this group a standing ovation on how well they keep the public in contact and the magnificent work they do. Bravo!
Thanks, MotMA, but there is one flaw in your theory. People must buy TW games if they want to play the mods. So CA gets the cash from both regular players and players who buy the game for the extra free content.
they could even sell a special mod pack the way Valve sold all sorts of popular Halflife mods. If that would mean proper mod support I surely wouldn't mind if they make extra money from our free work (after all they already do).
On estimate, how much does it cost to make a mod of this proportion?
It doesn't cost any money. Well, unless you count time, which is money...:inquisitive:
Anyway, it doesn't really cost anything, just hard work. The reward is the satisfaction of making an awsome mod for everyone to enjoy!:2thumbsup:
Any idea of a completion date?
I have to note that if CA sees the mods as competition to future products they wont dig their own grave...Quote:
Originally Posted by Duke John
CA will make much more money from M2TW than from RTW gold thats needed for the CTW mod....
What different types of artillery pieces are you packing?
Indeed, if. But there is no sign that they see modding as a threat for their sales. JeromeGrasDyke has done his best to help the modders. Totalwar.com has a link to Vercingetorix's tool. The official forums have modding subforums.
Why would a mod require R:TW gold? I thought it was just R:TW with patch 1.3 and 1.5 automatically installed.Quote:
CA will make much more money from M2TW than from RTW gold thats needed for the CTW mod.
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Originally Posted by Duke John
Modding will never really be a "monitary competition." On the other hand, if CA does not come up with a game for a while, extensive modding can be a threat. You would be shocked to see how deep this subject goes.
There are quite few copies of plain RTW to buy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Duke John
And CTW is based on BI 1.6 RTW Gold is RTW 1.5 and BI 1.6 preinstalled...
DittoQuote:
Originally Posted by Duke John
LotRTW made by Wlesmana has made people buy RTW that would NEVER even touched it...Now if he doesnt port to BI or M2TW for that matted the said people will NOT buy the new games...
And his mod had http://files.filefront.com/SEARCH/;4.../fileinfo.html 2,860 downloads for the initial release not to mention RTR 7.0 that will make people buy BI...
Hellenes
I think we can all see the truths in everyone's point of view. This was a very interesting discussion. Now I believe it is once again crunch time and we must get back to the matter at hand, Napoleonic Total War II
Have you guys decided on a soundtrack, or are you just leaving the original one? If you are creating a new one, I think the title headline song should be "The Big Gate of Kiev- by Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition."
what's with the big halt?
it's right now summer &
it would be annoying if
this wasn't released before
the end of the summer
:wall:
it's summer already ? I must've missed that
lol "everybody makes mistakes" as they say I thought that summer started
on May when I was 4-11 years old :laugh4:
Summer starts at the very end of May.
Well, that depends on where you live. We are aiming at an August release.
Hes making his next version 2.0 for BI, and there are quite a few people who didnt buy BI. Theyll be forced to do so if they wanna play the mod.Quote:
Ditto
LotRTW made by Wlesmana has made people buy RTW that would NEVER even touched it...Now if he doesnt port to BI or M2TW for that matted the said people will NOT buy the new games...
And his mod had http://files.filefront.com/SEARCH/;4.../fileinfo.html 2,860 downloads for the initial release not to mention RTR 7.0 that will make people buy BI...
Hellenes
This is with expansions the same thing, if people for instace dont like the period of the original but like the expansion they still have to buy the original.
Which is always more expansive than the expansion
where I come from it starts at middle of March:gah:Quote:
Originally Posted by Master of the Military Arts
Where I come from it's always summer :help: :gah2:
Might as well just hold off and save it until MTW2 comes out. Its Due in August right. Then use its platform to make significant changes. Right!
No sense in releasing it yet!
diBorgia
NO! release it now :2thumbsup: it looks great and don't keep it from us :laugh4:
MTW2 won't be out till somewere in 2007, but it is currently sceduled for "the winter" (that's december - january - februari)