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That is a good observation by FH maybe creating more intelligent priest and sending them East with the Crusades. The low Catholicism in those areas will help their piety and get them recognized for College openings.
However the point stated is it is a long process of making friends (diplomacy) or training priest (evangelism)?
If we built up a large enough navy and sent them to the Middle East, or had 3 or 4 priests follow the crusaders we would have very highly ranked cardinals rather quickly.
Why don't we do that?
The crusade originally had 3 priest attached to them, but already lost one to heretics.
So if that is the case I guess the next Diet session should include an edict which pursues the strategy of getting a lot more priests in play and sending them by ship to the middle east.
We have to reconcile in my mind to activate the in game mechanics of excom and therefore preventing expansion against other Catholics which we can do far too easily as I believe to this date none of our general's have lost a battle.
Having an invincible army is a little unbalanced IMO.
I like the idea of sending some priests by boats, Aussiegiant. :2thumbsup:
I agree that we have expanded very effectively until the moratorium last Diet and probably could continue to do so. However, that's largely due to the skill of our Chancellors and generals (and failings of the AI). Our armies have been far from invincible in size or composition. Chancellor Sigismund often made his generals fight with very meagre forces. And when I gave each AI faction 100k last Diet session, I was afraid I'd put Ituralde in an impossible position but he's done very well with the limited resources available.Quote:
Originally Posted by AussieGiant
I intend to give each AI faction (but not the Pope) 100k next Diet too, as authorised by the Charter Ammendment, unless there is a general consensus I should not.
I wonder what would it take to get a ceasefire?Quote:
Originally Posted by Factionheir
WIth 1.2 files not much. With 1.1 files an arm and a leg.Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
Well at the beginning of my Chancellorship, when we still had some standing with the Pope, since we supported him, I once offered Florence and 2000 florins. I think the offer was Firmly Rejected. Since then I have offered frequently, but never hoped to get a positive answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
OK finished the battle. Uploading as we speak. Note the file is larger than usual because I included screens of the new turn reports which you don't see if you load the game on your end.
Hans got a clear defeat but is sole survivor. Will post battle report soon
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Save file is called kotr1178-5 btw. On retrospect maybe 1180-1 would have been more suitable, but too late.
I think we should look how the financial standings are first (in the stats section of the save). Giving the AI more florins than they can spend doesn't help them at all. It actually only results in all their characters getting bad traits.Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
DONE!
I must say, that being Chancellor involves a lot more work than I had anticipated at first. Still I'm quite happy with the way it has all turned out. I want to apologize again for the delay I have caused at the beginning of my term, but private matters kept from playing as often as I wanted. Good luck to the next chap in line!
kotr1180
Let me be the first to congratulate you on a chancellorship well done then :2thumbsup:
Wonder how we will work the diet this time. As I have mentioned a few times already, it would be difficult to communicate between crusaders and diet ICly, so are we going to ignore the distance fact and assume we are all present for the diet (or have medieval email to communicate) or are we having a limited diet?
As for chancellorship, I would think econ should use his priviledge, but that's up to him of course.
Been considering running myself, but not quite sure how that would go well after having alienated most of the dukes and the emperor :grin:
The Library has been mostly updated, but there are a few things I haven't gotten around to yet and I've got other stuff to do at the moment. If anyone has some spare time and wants to help, I need the following things:
1) Updated list of who is playing what avatar and all of their proper titles
2) Updated battle information - Just total wins/losses, not casualty info
The crusaders retain their full rights in the Diet, but I agree it would be nice to roleplay their physical abence in character. We can leave it to individual crusading players how they do this. For example, they could communicate via a proxy (as I think Duke Otto has been doing) or through letters to the Diet (like the Kaiser).Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
To the best of my knowledge, I've updated the titles and players in this table:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...81&postcount=1
People can post any further corrections here. (I have not changed the stats, but will do so before the voting). It would be good if the Dukes could maintain the first post in their Duchy threads with an up to date list of their members and their titles. IIRC, players without avatars can now be Counts so potentially Dukes could create some new posts. (IMO, we should not hand them out like candy, but they would be nice rewards for active players - esp. the Austrians.)
Well, I guess medieval email it is :smiley2:Quote:
Originally Posted by econ21
Btw, what was the difference between knight and army commander again?
Beats me - we probably should drop the whole commander thing. (Originally, being a knight meant you were eligible to command, being a commander meant you actually had been given a command of 7+ units. But the distinction seems redundant now.)Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
BTW, I've now updated the avatar stats and influence in the playlist table.
Swabia is so uninfluential overall ~:(
Totals:
Empire: 5
Swabia: 10 (didn't count tws as he hasn't been active)
Franconia: 15 (didn't count Ichigo as above, might lose 3 due to Jonas bailing)
Austria: 12
Bavaria: 18 (didn't count nazgul3)
Btw, which House does StoneCold belong to anyway
No house... :P I realised I can't play IC... hahah, so I only participate in OOC..
I've never quite understood that. It's been a while, but I am assuming you don't have a computer that can play M2TW? Given how most of the Austrians have been forced to participate without avatars, I don't see why that should be an insuperable obstacle.Quote:
Originally Posted by StoneCold
You could even take Jonas von Mahren, our now spare avatar, as yours and delegate command of any battles he gets into to another player.
EDIT: On second thoughts, a better use for Jonas may be to provide a new avatar for Kagemusha once Dietrich passes on.
I believe ArchdukeEvan from the House of Austria doesn't even own the game either, so there's no more reason StoneCold. :beam:
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Originally Posted by FactionHeir
QTF, if all the other factions have redicuus amounts of florins, there is no point in giving them more, maybe just top them up to a set amount?
While giving factions gobs of money is a blunt insturment, it is one of the few options open to us to make the game more challenging. It made the last term more interesting and I feel we should do it again.
Papal negotiations are currently ludicrous. Even if we offered them Jerusalem and Florence I'm not sure if they'd go for it. Under the current patch, I don't have much hope we'll be reconciled or even have peace, though I am willing to try. Still, it does make the game interesting, though I would like to have some closure.
I say we just continue Heinrich's legacy in terms of popes. The alternatives are simply too expensive.
Although....gifting the pope Jerusalem will result in it rioting straight away due to PO, so unless we can stabilize it by building massive PO buildings, converting to 100% christianity and exterminate the people there when we move in, there is no hope of the pope holding on to it without riots.
wouldn't it beome the papal capital and therefore immune to rebelion?
If it can be discussed in IC terms, lets bring the topic of what to do with Filippus into the Diet, it's probably going to be a major part of this session anyway. Carrot or stick? The world awaits. :sweatdrop:
@Ituralde, it looks like we have a Turkish Jihad army in Anatolia. Do you have any idea when this occurred and what city the Jihad was called for? The city is announced along with the Jihad at the start of the turn. This information, if available, might effect the deliberations of the Crusaders.
Edit: As for Jerusalem rioting against the Pope after we give it to him: A. We prepare the city for his Holiness as you said or B. Caveat Emptor
I agree with most Swabians that Ragusa needs to come under control of the riech, but my edict is currently limiting us. With this in mind is there any legal way to amend an edict that has already passed?
edit: It wasn't included at the time because venice it was Venice's last settlement.
An amendment can alter a previous amendment, so a 2/3 vote will be needed. If you want to make it one of Bavaria's ducal proposals, give it a shot it in the Bavaria thread. :2thumbsup:
Edit, @Stuperman: I hope once we get around to giving Jerusalem to the Pope we've made peace and they will have a city. But you might be right if Jerusalem is their only city.
well, no, it's not a CA, it's an Edict, and the Charter doesn;t cover amending them, would we have to amend the charter (to cover edict amendment) then pass the amendment to the edict to include Ragusa(I believe it's edict E1.7)?
My bad, you're right. So much for the Imperial Historian. . .:dizzy2:
Yeah, an edict will do.
Edit: Edicts, unless spelled out in the edict itself, only last for the term of the new Chancellor. So a new edict should serve to modify an older one, even if it does have a long shelf life.
Edict E1.1 is the crusade, so this is ineffect for a long time really, unless it's expiration is mandatory, then we could re-write it, focus on making easily defendable boarders. or if all it takes to amend this is an edict then:Quote:
Edict E1.7: Should edict E1.1 pass for the duration of the Crusade, the Reich will refrain from conquering any Catholic settlement and instead focus on defending the borders from outside attack and developing our provinces. This Edict does not apply to Thorn, Venice, Marseille and Breslau, nor does it apply to any settlement of the Reich which is captured by our enemies. Additionally, should the HRE be attacked by any nations it is not at war with at the time of the attack, one (1) settlement may be annexed from that nation of the Chancellor's choice.
Edcit 7.X Edict E1.7 shall be re-written to read "... This Edict does not apply to Marseille, Ragusa, (OOC:anything else you want to add, Krakow? Ajaccio or/and Caligari?) and Breslau, nor does it apply..."