:inquisitive: Well...congratulations to Bavaria, then.
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:inquisitive: Well...congratulations to Bavaria, then.
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Originally Posted by Destroyer of Hope
DOH, I readvised my Decsions and will send you a offical copy today. DId everyone send their decsions in yet?
Still haven't gotten anything from DoH.
26th is the deadline. Until then you can think if you want to accept my conditions!Quote:
Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman888
Austira, do you agree to my conditions?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augsburg
OCC: Sweden attack Augsburg during the 30 years war, very intersting :-)
I, Leopold the I, after consulting many people, have decided to Revoke Bavaria's Independce.
After gathering information, it is not suitable for us to grant them it at this time.
Leopold I of Austria
Is that possible? By law, I am my own kingdom, the deal has already been signed. Am I not the Kingdom of Bavaria now, I make my own rights? Austria does not contol us anymore, so how can it revoke our independance?
They can put pressure on you to rejoin the Holy Roman Empire.
The Holy Roman Empire losing all of its states? That would almost be like the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth...well, without Lithuania!
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Originally Posted by Warluster
Like the Invasion of Augsburg, I can very well put just as much pressure on you to rejoin my Empire.... And soon.
Leopold I
We in Sweden stand in bewilderment at the flurry of crazed activity from Vienna. We have no idea how deep runs the madness of Emperor Leopold, nor we do care. We simply assert that once Bavaria's indepdence was granted, Austria's ability to control them was lost. Any attempts to use force to correct perceived missteps at this point will be met with considerable resistance. We will not allow Austria to use the rifle and the bayonet to correct the wrongs of their ministry of state.
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Originally Posted by Don Corleone
I was under conserdiable amount of pressure at the time, and I was not thinknig clreay. But of course, It was a huge mistake at my cost, rather or not I had other things on my mind. I never Said anything about using Rifle and bayonet in taking back Bavaria soon, or even using it at all. I just am saying they should come under my Empire again soon. If they, however, resist me and attack my border, I will of course lauch a assault on them, wether or not you, Sweden, supports them.
I though, had enough of the things going on in Europe agaisnt my Empire, and will take a stand.
What Say Thou Bavaria! Austria is getting impatient!
Leopold I
Bavaria shall not re join the Empire, we have been granted Empire and are a free state. Out of interest, what is it you wanted us to re join for?
Maxmillian I
King of Bavaria
I think you would harbour enemy forces in your country to attack Austria, and would do so twice as easy with being a independce state.
Leopold I
What are you talking about? Bavaria is landlocked. They don't buffer any of your enemies from you on a direct approach. If France wanted to attack you via a land route, they'd simply go through Vienna. The rest of us cannot reach Bavaria by land. Bavaria cannot provide a staging ground for anyone that can't reach you through other means already available to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman888
Edit: Erh, France would go through Venice.
Except of course in a case of Civil War within the Empire itself.
:france:
We are irritated by the ongoing discussion. They seem to indicate that Austria is regarding France as her enemy. We ask for an explanation.
We also warn Austria to send any soldiers to the socalled Spanish Netherlands without giving France the necessary guarantees.
The Republic agrees with France
It is also irritated that Austria does not agree to our deal regarding the Southern Netherlands.
As a consequence of that the port of Antwerp will remain closed, as it has been during a long time of the Spanish reign. Every ship still wanting to enter your own and only port has to pay 50% of taxes to us.
It seems like over the past few months, Our relationship started to become uneasy and still is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franconicus
If I want to said soldiers to the Austrian Netherlands, I will do so first, before finally accpeting/rejecting your terms, rather or not you like it, and whener or not The Republic likes it. You think I would have no Austrian or at least Allied Troops there to garrsion, and keep them out just because of some terms? That's a good way for someway to overrun them.
But the I think the terms are unfair and unjust, so I think I draw this out and waited long enough, so I will not accpect them.
:france:
After the secession of Brandenburg and Bavaria the Holy Roman Empire is history. France accepts this fact and recognizes the Kingdoms of Brandenburg and Bavaria. France also recognizes the independency of every other German or Italian town or county. Please send your ambassadors to Paris to discuss the details.
Due to the agressiveness of the Austrian Emperor France closes Her borders to the Spanish Netherlands.
Louis
Austria will not discuss any details until they uplift the closers on the Netherlas of Austria's Border. We will not accpect your terms until you make them fairer. We will not have any talks with France until they changed.
We will send our garrsion to the Austrian Netherlands. Our Allies in England and Poland will provide us with protection on the way there.
Since I'm King of England as well I can guarantee you that as it's now England will send you no help.
The Republic supports France in it cause, and if Austria stays hostile it will take steps. We are interested in peace, if our new neighbours can't guarantee that we will use other methods.
OCC: you king of England?
Austria is not taking hostile steps. We Think your causes are hostile towards Austria, and we will take steps if you do not allow our Garrsion to move into the Austrian Netherlands when the Time comes
OOC:
Yes William III is both King of England as Steward of The Netherlands
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Originally Posted by Stig
OCC: but I thought Tran was playing as him, since he is England. He said he...
This is confusing :inquisitive:
If so, I will just use Our allies in Poland to transport then. Do not Dare Stop us.
Leopold I
Yes, Tran is playing England, but we are both the same ruler. So England and The Republic are in personal alliance, so that goes above any other alliance.
Also OOC:
why do you need others to transport them? Can't they walk :laugh4:
*cough*damn:laugh4: *cough*Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
OCC:ok, my responce to the Republic is above in my last post.
Everyone got their decsions in yet? because if so, mabye DOH can start working on it early. this is exciting. :beam:
Nope, I still want to send something, but waiting on a reply ... which can take time