King of the Romans Out of Character thread XIII

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Originally Posted by econ

I am shooting for one spare avatar per House, but the computer seems very keen on giving Hans more adoptees.

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I wonder if we should accept them and then kill them, just to get the "heir mechanics" to move on.

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Originally Posted by Privateerkev

I wonder if we should accept them and then kill them, just to get the "heir mechanics" to move on.

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Yes, the thought had entered my mind. I'd be interested to hear what Factionheir has to say on this.

Thats true, it would lock out his last two "slots" for kids.

Adoptees for MotH/adoptions usually go from left to right, although with exceptions: I.e. Dassel doesn't seem to be getting any currently, nor does Elberhard or Hümmel.
Its not really linked to age either, as I sometimes get adoption offers to someone who just came of age for instance.

As for further Swabians, I don't think more are necessary as we already got a spare. Although of course not accepting might block out adoptions for other houses while Hans is alive possibly, but we don't seem to have a shortage currently to justify several rounds of adoptions + kill offs.

Regarding adoptions for Hans in particular, I'm not too certain whether it makes a difference or not. He's already in his 50s and not married and chances that he gets married are rather slim. Of course we could force marry him to a princess (does Siegfried reward loyalty?), but even then he'd only have a random amount of years (he'll he 59 or 60 by the time one comes of age) to produce any offspring. Of course I did have characters live to 68, but that tends to be the exception.

But for the moment I'd say no more adoptions.

siegfried wont be repaying your loyalty when im through with u, FH

Have Peter turn around and pursue Hans instead then :laugh4:

(;P)

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Originally Posted by FactionHeir

Of course we could force marry him to a princess (does Siegfried reward loyalty?)

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Oh he better... :yes:

:beam:

Now I'm freak'n confused. Why did GeneralHankercheif randomly become pope!?!?!?

It's all sarcasm, although I will gladly accept the position if you wish. :laugh4:

Here is the origination of the joke:

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Originally Posted by Elberhard

So, Dietrich, you think the Diet must approve of religious re-unification before it happens? Not only do you think you should be Chancellor, you also think you must be the @#$%^&!!!ing Pope?!

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https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=614

Pope/Kaiser Dietrich, you still haven't answered my question on what flavor lotion to use on your feet. :D

i do like the lotion joke. funny stuff

thank you. :bow:

"It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again."

You guys know that HRE Emperors were more or less elected, right? (in real)

I thought that's why we picked them>?

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Originally Posted by Stuperman

I thought that's why we picked them>?

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Yeah it's just that some people say that the Kaiser was appointed by god, while in real he was almost always choosen by a couple of Electors and with that named King of the Romans.

Let's turn the page onto 1310. The Chancellor's report for 1308 is up.

There seem to be almost no battles this turn, just one minor one for Ignoramus:

Count Hummel:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Although you are wracked by a terrible plague, you are determined to drive away the last remnants of French forces from around Bruges. Destroy the small force between Bruges and Antwerp.

If you still have technical problems, let me know me and I'll autoresolve.

However, the pursuit of Peter's rebel force has come to ahead. I need orders from Factionheir, Gibson and Cecil within 24 hours. I also need advice from Becker/Arnold on what to do about Bucharest. It is surely going to blow this turn - probably better to get the militia to bug out back to Bran.

Here's the save:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1308-1.zip

People should pass by the Throne room in about 24 hours time, when we will resolve the Peter issue and see if there are any defensive battles.

Econ, why did you not allow Stig's avatar to break the siege of Thorn, that should be a defensive battle and will not incurred the wrath of the Pope, right? Or is that part of the story plot?

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Originally Posted by econ21

Steward’s report for 1308

Franconia: Duke Ansehelm has destroyed the Russian army that besieged Thorn. The Poles now besiege Thorn. We will not attack, as that will bring excommunication. However, the Duke’s army is standing by to assist the garrison in the event that the Poles launch an assault. The Saxon army remains near Stettin.

Steward Elberhard

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Originally Posted by Stig

Yeah it's just that some people say that the Kaiser was appointed by god, while in real he was almost always choosen by a couple of Electors and with that named King of the Romans.

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Jan has 10 Piety and believes in "divine right to rule". Yes, I the player know that Emperors were elected in the HRE. But, Jan has a different view of things.

The computer picks an heir. Jan believes that is the Pope saying that God picked that person to be heir. You can quibble all you want that Jan's view is not rational but it is not meant to be rational.

^_^

As we say, the will of the game is the will of god.

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Originally Posted by StoneCold

Econ, why did you not allow Stig's avatar to break the siege of Thorn, that should be a defensive battle and will not incurred the wrath of the Pope, right? Or is that part of the story plot?

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Ansehelm is not in Thorn, he himself is outside it

FYI, for Factionheir. I checked my KOTRfix install and it seems I patched the wrong M2TW installation. I have fixed it now. I've got 4 different M2TW installs on my computer now and it's a bit confusing.

Stig, so attacking an enemy stack on our land is still an aggression?

Regarding Thorn, I loaded up the savegame. The rest is in a spoiler.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I had Ansehelm attack the besieging army and autoresolved it. There was no consequence for attacking the army.

All right - Stig, if you want to, Ansehelm can attack the Polish army beseiging Thorn.

:help: I get back and find that Wolgang has the plague?

Will fight my battle tomorrow morning, if I fight it ofcourse, those Poles seemed strong last turn

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Originally Posted by Ignoramus

:help: I get back and find that Wolgang has the plague?

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Sorry about that. :embarassed: It happened after he occupied Bruges.

Does anyone know what the consequences of carrying the plague are? I guess he can infect any settlements he enters? What is the prognosis for the character?

Most of the time he survives, either take him out of the city or place him in an already infected city with major health bonuses

Plague usually lasts for 4-6 turns.

It doesn't make a difference whether he stays inside town or not, but if he re-enters, he'll also reinfect. I usually leave em inside a town as even though their illness lasts longer than a garrison's, they do not keep infecting people, so are completely safe. I suppose that's good in a way too since he needs to keep PO at Bruges.