17er Saints and Martyrs

oh, and Logic:

you're not the only person in this game who I owe a conversation-continuing DM to in Discord, so that's more me being socially avoidant than townie. :curtain:

I forgot that Benneh was playing.
Benneh is top 3 posters.
Anyone got a take on him to share?

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

I forgot that Benneh was playing.
Benneh is top 3 posters.
Anyone got a take on him to share?

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not really

do you?

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

I forgot that Benneh was playing.
Benneh is top 3 posters.
Anyone got a take on him to share?

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He is either a villager with Zack or

A wolf who made a point in pocketing Zack all game by faking delayed mindmeld + frustration about said mindmelds.

I would love for it to be #2 but somebody's razor told me it is not and I am not allowed to argue with appliances anymore.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

not really

do you?

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My only take is that me forgetting about him isn't a great sign, as in, his posts and takes didn't have oomph enough to stick. I don't know if that's really enough to warrant a town read, though!

i dont think anyone should have a solid read on me at this point. it would be rather sad for my wolf range if you did

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Originally Posted by Zack

Genuine question - when?

You said this pretty definitively ("legitimately wrong") but I'm not sure what you're referring to tbh.

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I don't remember a specific game, but I do remember you being among the voices pushing me out, and I flipped town. I also distinctly remember you saying at several points in the past (mostly in #spec-chat) something to the effect of "Logic is an easy read" or "Logic is transparently town, until he's not, then he's wolfing." To which Visor, GH, and I believe Ladd all agreed.

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Originally Posted by Visor

hey vanta

hope you enjoy your time here

Vote: vanta black :curtain:

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I was planning on voting Vanta as soon as I read these two back-to-back.

i kind of want to vote arctic for voting me. Not really OMGUS but because it felt like he was glomming onto something instead of making his own read there.

I really dont get why I SHOULDN'T read GH first. It's been a while but I have quite a bit of experience with him and used to read him decently.

and he's also not my only read. I really, truly think that the way zavck is approaching me is his village game. His approach to me is wrong, but not in a wolfy way. He puts this kin o pressure on me when he's a villager often

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Originally Posted by dyachei

i kind of want to vote arctic for voting me. Not really OMGUS but because it felt like he was glomming onto something instead of making his own read there.

I really dont get why I SHOULDN'T read GH first. It's been a while but I have quite a bit of experience with him and used to read him decently.

and he's also not my only read. I really, truly think that the way zavck is approaching me is his village game. His approach to me is wrong, but not in a wolfy way. He puts this kin o pressure on me when he's a villager often

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any other reads?

i'm conflicted on arctic cause i townread there but others are pushing back on it and not sure what to do but idt i'd vote him today. lolme if wrong ig

im curious your reads, if any, on visor and logic and ender specifically

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

any other reads?

i'm conflicted on arctic cause i townread there but others are pushing back on it and not sure what to do but idt i'd vote him today. lolme if wrong ig

im curious your reads, if any, on visor and logic and ender specifically

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idk how to read logic, never really have. Visor i'm still waiting for more on. But I do think it's a good look he sort of defended me because it would have been easy to not and I've found him as wolf before. Ender and I have an oppositional view of each other in almost every game. I think he's wolfy and haven't liked his posts, but I'm not very accurate on him

i have a dumb reason to v read ladd in that i think he'd have just pocketed me by now

but he's good at the game and almost always 1 to 10 levels ahead of me so maybe he didn't cause he knew i'd fall for the reverse non-pocket

but fr i'd imagine i'd have found myself clumped somewhere in his townreads if not his 'most obvious town' even though i haven't really been playing in a manner to deserve that, but he usually TMIs me town like that when wolf and his approach here, to neither really town or wolf lean me and just have me in his reads-purgatory makes me think v

i concede this is an exceedingly dumb way to read ladd and it would be very on brand for me to be wrong on him but i'm goin with it

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Originally Posted by dyachei

i kind of want to vote arctic for voting me. Not really OMGUS but because it felt like he was glomming onto something instead of making his own read there.

I really dont get why I SHOULDN'T read GH first. It's been a while but I have quite a bit of experience with him and used to read him decently.

and he's also not my only read. I really, truly think that the way zavck is approaching me is his village game. His approach to me is wrong, but not in a wolfy way. He puts this kin o pressure on me when he's a villager often

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i'm mildly concerned with visor cause he feels more 'bouncy' this game and i feel like some of his joke-y posts feel misplaced but it could just be a me thing

and his meta over the last 3 games would really allow him to post this way as a wolf and get away with it but i admit its not much to go on

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Originally Posted by ladd

i am a bit confused by this whole sentence, is the second part about me or someone else? cause i def havent been tryhardy lmao



why do you v read logic?

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I like this post from Ladd. While I like wisdom's V-read of me, there was no substance behind it, and this question feels genuine.

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

i'm mildly concerned with visor cause he feels more 'bouncy' this game and i feel like some of his joke-y posts feel misplaced but it could just be a me thing

and his meta over the last 3 games would really allow him to post this way as a wolf and get away with it but i admit its not much to go on

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if you look at the last game, that may be true for early game but later game he brought it

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

Vote: Syn

I have no thoughts of my own.

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Wolfy tack-on, m'lord

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

Can those who wolf read me and those who town read me fight each other in a sunrise duel? I counted it to 3-3 so should be fair!

Jan Ladd Syn vs GH Visor Rask

I'd bet there's 1-2 wolves in those 6.

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Don't think I have a read on you fame?

I was mostly amused at Visor voting you in a meme fashion.

Still, can you articulate your thought? Because I can give you 6 random names of a 17er and there will be 1-2 woofs in it. (sorry for wording it like that, but really I don't get your point specifically)

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Originally Posted by EnderWiggin

But you're okay voting with me? Sus.

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I know I just gave you grief for doing this, but you are also calling it out from murska, which I find a tad sus, regardless of who it comes from

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

i have a dumb reason to v read ladd in that i think he'd have just pocketed me by now

but he's good at the game and almost always 1 to 10 levels ahead of me so maybe he didn't cause he knew i'd fall for the reverse non-pocket

but fr i'd imagine i'd have found myself clumped somewhere in his townreads if not his 'most obvious town' even though i haven't really been playing in a manner to deserve that, but he usually TMIs me town like that when wolf and his approach here, to neither really town or wolf lean me and just have me in his reads-purgatory makes me think v

i concede this is an exceedingly dumb way to read ladd and it would be very on brand for me to be wrong on him but i'm goin with it

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cool post regardless of your alignment eheh


(you are posting fine but i dont really have a read on you)

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Originally Posted by Murska

Wow okay, I did not know the meta nor read Syn as lock wolf here. I just saw a push with what looked like okay reasoning and wanted to give it a kick downhill and see what happens.

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I don't like this post.

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Originally Posted by nebjiamn

i'm mildly concerned with visor cause he feels more 'bouncy' this game and i feel like some of his joke-y posts feel misplaced but it could just be a me thing

and his meta over the last 3 games would really allow him to post this way as a wolf and get away with it but i admit its not much to go on

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I'd expect wolf!Visor to still have more presence with this particular roster tbh (also check last game he woofed here, first game Sunbae hosted here in 2023 iirc). works for D1 I guess lol

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Originally Posted by Logic

I don't like this post.

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why? where is your head at Logic?

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

oh, and Logic:

you're not the only person in this game who I owe a conversation-continuing DM to in Discord, so that's more me being socially avoidant than townie. :curtain:

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Towny excuse
But I expect you to get on it
:whip:

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Originally Posted by dyachei

idk how to read logic, never really have. Visor i'm still waiting for more on. But I do think it's a good look he sort of defended me because it would have been easy to not and I've found him as wolf before. Ender and I have an oppositional view of each other in almost every game. I think he's wolfy and haven't liked his posts, but I'm not very accurate on him

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Self-involved and egotistical read tells me that this more likely town dya than wolf dya.

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

I'd expect wolf!Visor to still have more presence with this particular roster tbh (also check last game he woofed here, first game Sunbae hosted here in 2023 iirc). works for D1 I guess lol

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i like this post. Idk, if rask is a wolf, he just made the game harder on himself than he needed to

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Originally Posted by Totally not Taffy

You can ask your kids to help, Rask.

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lmao it's the one yearly week they are off to greatparents :whip:

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

why? where is your head at Logic?

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I think this reads as overly defensive for what is basically a pinprick of pressure.

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Originally Posted by Wisdom

My only take is that me forgetting about him isn't a great sign, as in, his posts and takes didn't have oomph enough to stick. I don't know if that's really enough to warrant a town read, though!

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I'll assume you meant to say "enough to warrant a *wolf* read, though" here

and noted

I'm also about ready to drop the shield on Logic, btw :knight:

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Originally Posted by Raskolnikov

Don't think I have a read on you fame?

I was mostly amused at Visor voting you in a meme fashion.

Still, can you articulate your thought? Because I can give you 6 random names of a 17er and there will be 1-2 woofs in it. (sorry for wording it like that, but really I don't get your point specifically)

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Yeah, I realized that was very much =rand to say 1-2 in 6.
Let's change the numbers!
Ladd's town.
I think you could be town as well.
Let's say 2-3 wolves in Syn/GH/Visor/Jan!
Better odds now, yes?
Nuke 'em and see what happens!