Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia [Concluded]

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

Oh gee, there's a surprise. I'm number one most wanted, because I dared to call him out on his BS. :rolleyes:

Personally, I think it's bad form to discuss suspects so early on in a night phase- it makes the mafia's job so much easier by identifying likely lynch candidates that they can safely avoid murdering. Of course, I expect making the mafia's job easier is your primary goal isnt it?

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You are very much out of form. Such harsh attack is not like you.

Sasaki - your attack on Xiahou is inconsistent with your defence of Ichigo.

WHY? for about the 3 rd time of asking....

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Originally Posted by HughTower

Sasaki - your attack on Xiahou is inconsistent with your defence of Ichigo.

WHY? for about the 3 rd time of asking....

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It's almost like an actor playing the part of Sasaki rather than Sasaki himself isn't it? He's trying real hard to act as he normally would, but he's just not selling it- not to me.

Sorry for my absence. Carnaval ~:cheers:

I've been more drunk than sober the last two days, so you're probably all glad I didn't contribute in here during that period. It would have been, eh, disturbing...

When I'm back alive, I'll participate "come d'habitude".

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

It's almost like an actor playing the part of Sasaki rather than Sasaki himself isn't it? He's trying real hard to act as he normally would, but he's just not selling it- not to me.

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Looks like the regular Sasaki to me though, what do you find different from other games ?

:balloon2:

I agree with Dutch Guy.

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Originally Posted by HughTower

Sasaki - your attack on Xiahou is inconsistent with your defence of Ichigo.

WHY? for about the 3 rd time of asking....

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One is acting as usual the other isn't.

I don't think the kill identities are going to make much difference to this, but I'd like to hear more from Seamus. He is a self-proclaimed deadly townie (see the summaries for Capo), yet he has barely been seen here. He has been around in the Backroom, as recently as a few minutes ago, so he has had time to check the Org. Also, his being an experienced player would fit Kommodus' profile of someone wanting to keep all the "heavy hitters" in the limelight of suspicion.

Actually, to me, both of you appear to be your normal selves on these posts.

I have seen Xiahou in this style of posting -- and not when mafioso AND Sasaki seems to be his normal irascible self.

meh.

We could all gang up on someone else to provoke discussion....

Mostly, I am just waiting for data.

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

Actually, to me, both of you appear to be your normal selves on these posts.

I have seen Xiahou in this style of posting -- and not when mafioso

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Where?

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Where?

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Here.:dizzy2:

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Originally Posted by Redleg

Here.:dizzy2:

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Seamus was referring to past games.

Is it time for a lurker campaign yet?

Sigurd's lurking, yet active in the Org, & he seems to be on my list for some reason or other.

And, of course, Ichigo's presence here is of no benefit to anyone, bar maybe his ISP. Though, apparently, that's alright.....

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Originally Posted by HughTower

Is it time for a lurker campaign yet?

Sigurd's lurking, yet active in the Org, & he seems to be on my list for some reason or other.

And, of course, Ichigo's presence here is of no benefit to anyone, bar maybe his ISP. Though, apparently, that's alright.....

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Neither is yours, but you don't see me crying about it do you?

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Originally Posted by Dutch_guy

Looks like the regular Sasaki to me though, what do you find different from other games ?

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I've already pointed out how his attacks are ringing hollow. Also, he proclaims CF a good lynch choice, yet keeps his retaliation vote lodged against me. Why? My guess that it's to throw off vote analysis. One of the people voting for CF is probably mafia.

One thing to wonder... where's our detective? Sasaki and Ichigo would've both been prime investigation candidates, which leaves me pondering the possibilities. The detective could be dead, he could be inactive, or he could be wasting his time investigated people who are going to get WoG'ed- or just maybe, both of them are innocent. With 13 no votes last round (pathetic), my guess would be that he's inactive.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

I agree with Dutch Guy.

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Of course you do...

Haha, I didn't know you had such creativity in you, X.

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

I've already pointed out how his attacks are ringing hollow. Also, he proclaims CF a good lynch choice, yet keeps his retaliation vote lodged against me. Why? My guess that it's to throw off vote analysis. One of the people voting for CF is probably mafia.

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1) I said "not a bad lynch". Clearly not the same as "good lynch choice".
2) I voted you before you voted me, yours is the retaliation vote.

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One thing to wonder... where's our detective? Sasaki and Ichigo would've both been prime investigation candidates, which leaves me pondering the possibilities. The detective could be dead, he could be inactive, or he could be wasting his time investigated people who are going to get WoG'ed- or just maybe, both of them are innocent. With 13 no votes last round (pathetic), my guess would be that he's inactive.

Of course you do...

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Now you're inventing excuses for why the detective hasn't claimed yet? :thumbsdown:

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Originally Posted by HughTower

And, of course, Ichigo's presence here is of no benefit to anyone, bar maybe his ISP.

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:laugh4:

Most ISP's charge a monthly rate, so he's just costing them money by using the internet.


Also: https://img133.imageshack.us/img133/...iceburngw7.gif

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

2) I voted you before you voted me, yours is the retaliation vote.

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You're clearly delusional. You voted for Pannonian and then switched your vote to me for no other reason than I voted for you. That's a retaliatory as it gets. What else do you call it when you vote for someone in direct response to their voting against you?

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Now you're inventing excuses for why the detective hasn't claimed yet? :thumbsdown:

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No, unless he's found a mafioso he shouldn't reveal yet. I think he's inactive though.

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Originally Posted by HughTower

And, of course, Ichigo's presence here is of no benefit to anyone, bar maybe his ISP.

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Sigged. :bow:

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

You're clearly delusional. You voted for Pannonian and then switched your vote to me for no other reason than I voted for you. That's a retaliatory as it gets. What else do you call it when you vote for someone in direct response to their voting against you?

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Well, let's see.

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Originally Posted by Xiahou (post 230)

That would be illegal according to the rules listed in the original post.


unvote: Destroyer of Hope
Vote: Ichigo
He seems like he's protecting a role.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki (post 233)

Unvote,Vote:Xiahou

bandwagon+poor reason.

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Originally Posted by Xiahou (post 249)

Were I a more punitive person, I'd change my vote for Sasaki at this point for the same reasons he lists. One vote isn't a bandwagon and I gave a reason- which is more than you did in voting for me.

I believed Destro's explanation (for now)- thus the unvote. There are a few others I'd add to my suspect list, but doing so publicly would only make the mafia's job easier.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki (post 250)

Right, so Redleg voted Ichigo and persued him in several posts, Andres Questioned Ichigo, HughTower accused Ichigo and put him in his sig as #1 suspect, but there was no wagon on him? Ichigo is very lynchable today->voting for him is bandagon. Your reason is "he looks like he's protecting a role" which isn't even an accusation of guilty, and you don't explain. My vote gave two reasons: bandwagon and poor vote.

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Originally Posted by Xiahou (post 256)

So 1 vote last round and a couple of inquiries makes a vote this round a bandwagon?
Absolute nonsense. His responses to previous inquiries were very odd and are what make me thing he's protecting a role.

I'm comfortable with my vote.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki (259)

The vote and the discussion were both this round. Most of this round has been discussion on Ichigo. He is the foremost candidate. Ergo, bandwagon.

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Originally Posted by Xiahou (post 280)

I think I figured out the criteria- any vote but Sasaki's is a bandwagon.

Seriously, anyone who votes for someone based on in thread discussion is pushing a bandwagon by his criteria- it's lunacy.

I've come to the conclusion that Sasaki is up to something. He's been able to help generate helpful discussion in other games, but now it just seems that he's muddying up the waters and obfuscating

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Originally Posted by Xiahou (325)

vote: Sasaki
I still think he's dirty.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki

I suppose hugh is right about the in character thing.

Unvote:Pannonian, Vote:Xiahou

Why am I guilty again? Last time you said "were I a more punitive person I'd vote you" which indicates that you didn't think I was guilty. Now you say you do "just like you did".

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

Correct, I didn't make a retaliatory vote against you- like you just did against me I might add. It wasn't until it dawned on me you were basing your attacks on utter nonsense that I realized you're up to no good. Calling a vote based on thread discussion isn't a bandwagon- that'd have to be clear even to you. When I point that out you make some sheepish argument about 'well only if it's a vote I disagree with'- that's more nonsense.

False accusations? Retaliation voting? I think you're scummy.

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

Oh gee, there's a surprise. I'm number one most wanted, because I dared to call him out on his BS.

Personally, I think it's bad form to discuss suspects so early on in a night phase- it makes the mafia's job so much easier by identifying likely lynch candidates that they can safely avoid murdering. Of course, I expect making the mafia's job easier is your primary goal isnt it?

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It's quite clear. I voted you and a few posts later you accuse me of being guilty, and you vote me the next round. My vote the next day is in continuation of the previous day. Your posts are filled with falsehoods and bad logic.

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No, unless he's found a mafioso he shouldn't reveal yet. I think he's inactive though.

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You're assuming he's inactive, because that's the only explanation you have that doesn't make me innocent.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

It's quite clear. I voted you and a few posts later you accuse me of being guilty, and you vote me the next round. My vote the next day is in continuation of the previous day. Your posts are filled with falsehoods and bad logic.

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Still trying to defend the indefensible? Thanks for taking the time to post quotes, they prove my point nicely- the only thing you could've done to help me more would be to put in the phase breaks. I didn't retaliate for you vote against me- I called you out on it. It was during discussion in the following night phase (I believe), that I concluded you were up to no good. Then in the following day phase you vote for Pannonian. I made good on my earlier conclusion and voted Sasaki- you immediately retaliate with a vote on me.

You can't defend it- your vote was retaliation pure and simple. If you really thought I was guilty (based on your vote in the previous round), why go after Pannonian? What made me suddenly become a target other than my vote for you? More dumb, uncharacteristic mistakes- not making yourself look any better. :no:

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You're assuming he's inactive, because that's the only explanation you have that doesn't make me innocent.

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I'm almost certain he's inactive.

Edit: I don't think it's wise to continue drowning out legitimate debate like this. If anyone thinks I haven't made my case clear, please ask. Otherwise- I've said my piece and will quiet down until the lynch vote.

What makes you think I forgot about you while going after pannonian? You've played with me enough to know better.

It looks like one of the roles is currently inactive and looking for a replacement, judging by the long night. Since there has been a theme running through the killings, my guess is both mafia are active. However, GH has been angling for replacements, and in the replacement thread has specifically named Destroyer of Hope as someone to be replaced. Now this may be due to his request to be suicided, or it could be that Destroyer was the detective, and a hitherto townie will shortly be getting a role PM.

Now this may be due to his request to be suicided,

it is.

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

It looks like one of the roles is currently inactive and looking for a replacement, judging by the long night. Since there has been a theme running through the killings, my guess is both mafia are active. However, GH has been angling for replacements, and in the replacement thread has specifically named Destroyer of Hope as someone to be replaced. Now this may be due to his request to be suicided, or it could be that Destroyer was the detective, and a hitherto townie will shortly be getting a role PM.

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I wasn't going to point that out in thread, but yes- I think DoH was detective. Take his unusually active behavior in the start of the game- now he's going to suicide for lack of time to play. Hopefully, the role will be randomly reassigned to another townie.

Sasaki:

Stretches of G2 (Silver) and M5 (General). This may be the longest stretch now, surpassing those.

So, is that mafia or just a response to your goading?

I will ponder.

Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet, aside from the sound of a car returning to an apartment. The driver of the car was Sir Boo, who had been up all night at his cushy job, where he had requested the night shift after the killings began.

However, when Boo got to his floor, he immediately noticed something was wrong. The door to his room was wide open, and he was positive that he had shut and locked it before going to work. It was stupid, after all, to keep it open with the mafia lurking around.

Boo, fearing the worst, immediately ran to his safe (he didn't trust banks that much) and found the worst. It too, was open. This was not good. Not good at all. Something was missing. Boo took out his cellular phone and dialed a number.

After seven rings (it was still quite early), a voice picked up.

"Hello?"

"It's Boo. Something bad's happened. I've lost it."

"You WHAT?"

"I know, I know... Yes, I'm positive I kept everything locked. They must have known the combination somehow..."

The other voice kept talking. Boo had the feeling that he was being watched, but did not turn around. When the person on the other end of the line, Boo apologized one more time, asked him to keep an eye out it, and concluded the conversation with a "be careful."

After that, he turned around. Even in that short period of time Boo already looked frazzled, with his hair messy and sweat pouring down his face. And then he saw something which did not do much for his current situation.

"Thanks for the number, Boo," said a man who had stepped into his doorway.

Boo just stood there, dumbfounded. Meanwhile, the mafioso was carefully screwing the silencer on his gun, as he had done so before.

"Oh, don't worry," said the mafioso, "We'll be letting your brother know of your demise shortly. Thanks again!"

Boo gaped. The mafioso shot him in between the eyes, leaving that expression on his face forever.

Meanwhile, Sir Moody was eating breakfast without really tasting the food. Shame, really, since it was pancakes. But when you were in his situation, you'd be doing the exact same thing.

This state of mood had started when his brother, Sir Boo, had told him something the previous execution phase.

"Were they really here?" he said to himself. "Did they know so much? Were the killings just a coincidence? Of course they were, just a terrible, sick coincidence." The words were coming out of Moody's mouth, but he didn't believe them in the least.

He finished his meal in silence, lost in his own thoughts. Needless to say, he was far too troubled to hear the window opening in the room adjacent to his. Too busy drinking his bottle of red wine (hey, he had problems) to hear the soft footsteps of an assassin disabling the alarm system.

Unfortunately for the stealthy mafioso, his luck ended there. He did not notice that the floor ascended a level and stumbled right into it. The sound of the stumble was not that loud, but the sound of his cursing was. Moody finally noticed something was up.

He got up with a start, bottle of wine and knife (only a butter knife, but still) in his hands.

"Who's there?" His voice sounded stronger than he felt. He was answered by a ringing phone. Moody decided that the call was more important, and took it.

"Thank God you're safe and sound, bro." Moody sighed with relief. It sounded like his brother, Sir Boo. "I thought that they would have come after you, too."

"Waitaminute, what do you mean by that? Are you saying they came after you? And you survived?"

"They didn't come after me, they came after it. They ransacked my place while I was out. But luckily, I don't have it."

Moody nodded. "Of course you don't, I do."

Click.

All of a sudden, Moody shuddered. There's no way his brother would have hung up that abruptly, not without a "be careful" or something along those lines. Moody turned around, slightly freaked. And then he saw something that made him even more so. A shady figure was lounging on his sofa.

"Hello Moody, what a beautiful day this is." The mafioso had a gun out, equipped with a silencer.

"Spare me the small talk," he continued, apparently not realizing or caring that he had started the conversation, "you know what I want. It's best you give me the code now. Safes are difficult to crack."

Moody said nothing, although he started to sweat profusely and shoot his eyes around nervously.

"Come on, Moody, this doesn't have to be hard. Spare your brother the pain, and just hand over the code. He doesn't have to die, but he will if you don't obey me."

Moody, totally defeated and not knowing his brother's current condition (a slight case of rigor mortis), reluctantly handed over the code.

"See, that wasn't so hard, was it?" Moody nodded halfheartedly, and received a bullet between the eyes. A second later, the bottle of wine that he had been holding the entire time slipped to the floor and shattered.

"Shame about the wine," the mafioso said to himself as he let himself out.

Later that day, Chief of Police Beirut gathered the remaining villagers in the town square to make an announcement.

"Gentlemen," he began, "I don't really have much to say here, although I have a reasonable suspicion that an item of grave importance is in grave danger. It would be beneficial to all of us if you chose the correct person to lynch. So get to it!"

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Still alive: (24)
Kagemusha
Sasaki Kojiro
Xiahou
Stig
Fenring
Lord Motep of Kendermore
Ichigo
Pannonian
Crazed Rabbit
Redleg
Reenk Roink
JimBob
pevergreen
Ignoramus
CountArach
ByzantineKnight
Warluster
AndresTheCunning
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Seamus Fermanagh
Dutch_guy
Faust| (replaces Destroyer of Hope who suicided)
ChuggtheSquirrel
Kommodus

Killed:
UltraWar
Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot
Zalmoxis
Orb
Rythmic
sapi
Sir Boo
Sir Moody

Executed:
HughTower
discovery1
Caius Flaminius

Vote:Sasaki

Seems to be picking a fight with others for reasons that don't seem all that logical in the scope of the game.

Acting out of character is a very common mafia tell.

As is persistance without having good reason...

Vote:Xiahou