Out of character thread II

Some of the rules might be unwritten traditions carried over from WotS but that's a guess.

A Field Marshall is an avatar who has won 5 major victories (a victory against an army of 7+ units). You might notice it's one of the stats kept track of in the Avatar table at the beginning of the Chancellor's Reports thread. FMs have their own standing army and get a baton which they can whap people with. It could take a while until we get one though, since Sigismund and Otto share the lead with one major victory each.

Thanks for the answers GH and Overknight.
I had just noticed that the military rank is already shown in the overview table, thanks for mentioning it again. I guess that question is answered.

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Originally Posted by Ituralde

Before I ask, I have to take Ignoramus into protection for not auto-resolving battles where no general is involved. Going through the rules again there is no mention of this. I agree with the idea and find it great however, so maybe it should be added to the rules?!

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OK, I've inserted:

2.6 Battles are only fought manually when commanded by a player controlled general who is an army commander. They are autoresolved in all other cases (e.g. captain-led armies).

I've also struck out some parts of the Charter that need changing after TinCow's charter ammendment which altered influence and replaced governors with Counts.

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Secondly I have been wondering about retraining. I remember some discussions about this concerned with the chevron bug/exploit/feature. I found no mention of this in the Rules. What is the official stance on this?

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No restriction on retraining - the benefits of experience are pretty modest now (+3 to stats max)

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Then I would also like to voice my concerns about the disparities in the family tree. While I agree that there's currently no need to do anything drastic I'm already dreading what happens if Otto von Kassel and Elsebeth don't get any children or the next adoptee goes to Sigismund the Chivalrous.

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I suspect the next adoptee will go to Sigismund. But after that, we have agreed not to accept any more Swabian adoptees (as we are not accepting any more Franconian ones). Otto should get children if we conquer more settlements.

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Also some discussions were made about the Field Marshal post. If I'm not mistaken Sigismund currently holds that post. Maybe this could be noted down somewhere. Also if someone could summarize the results of the discussions about it for me again, it would be much appreciated.
I'm particularly unsure about the amount of battles needed and the army sizes involved.

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Hopefully rule 6.6 is up to date on this.

Thanks alot for answering those questions, econ21! :2thumbsup:

I agree with those above. Excellent stories GH and OverKnight. I'm really glad that people are writing regularly for this game. It's a shame that it only began at the end of WOTS, because it clearly adds a lot to the games.

I will download the file now and see in what kind of mess i am in.I promise to make a tactical retreat if the battle cant be won.:sweatdrop:

The battle is won and i have uploaded the savegame as kotr1136-3.I got lucky that the Polish cavalry came in first and after i got them to run,the two little infantry stacks were easy to defeat separately .:2thumbsup:

I would like to suggest that a list of all diplomatic standings be uploaded somewhere. It would make discussions much more useful especially for those who are not chancellors.

We have trade rights with most factions.

We are at war with Milan, Venice, and Poland, the latter two have broken treaties of alliance with us.

We are allied, IIRC, with the Byzantine Empire, the Moors, Sicily, and possibly one of the Iberian factions.

-edit- The Pope has excommunicated Venice (yay) and Sicily (boo). He's called a crusade on the Sicilian castle of Tunis. We are not participating in this crusade. Our Papal standing is not as high as we would like, but we have two Cardinals in the College. I don't think either of them are preferati.

Thanks for the update :)

I have finished my battle report its up in the battle report thread.And also happy birtday Kaiser Heinrich/GH!:cake: ~:cheers:

Actually Peter Scherer is Bishop Preferati if I'm not mistaken.
Also, everytime I look at our list of allies I can not help but understand the Pope for hating us. They're all infidels. :2thumbsup:

have we talked to the Russians at all yet?...

i didnt see it anywhere... and you did list the exact factions for Traderights... probly take to long anyway... but just curious

I just checked the game. We do have trade rights with Russia.

From the latest Chancellor's report:

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Originally Posted by Ignoramus

We have finally made contact with the Russians. Wenzel von Augsburg report that they are faboulousy wealthy, and equally proud and arrogant. He did, however, manage to exchage maps with them.

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Everyone playing has access to the savegames: use the link to the uploader in the "File space for PBM" sticky. It's a good idea to get into habit of downloading them and taking a look around whenever you get too curious; all our saves begin "kotor...". You can sort by "last modified" to find the most recent.

BTW: to save space, please only upload zipped files, not the actual .sav ones.

wow... sry im blind... ok... thank you

Ituralde, you've got a battle. You're attacking the Austrians rebels on the River Danube. After that, can you please make Prinz Henry(econ21) to assault Bologna? He's right there besieging it, but I though that I'd get this battle out of the way first.

Oh, and Sigismund's killed another Venetian general in the Alps(expect a battle report soon).

Yay for killiing that General, if I'm correct it was the same Alesandro Selvo that fled the siege of Vienna, then joined a crusade until Venice was excommed. :2thumbsup: Just in case you want to work any of this in your battle report.

I have downloaded the savegame and will tackle it within the next 2-3 hours.
I wonder though how far this deciding what happens in your Duchies has already gone yet. If it was up to me, Leopold would attack the Venetian Councillor to the South. I have already constructed a story that makes it unlikely for Leopold to attack the rebels, it would also mean attacking a ford, defended by a missile heavy army with only infantry. It will be a bloody battle. :2thumbsup:

I post this just to make sure that Chancellor Sigismund is deliberately increasing the friction between Leopold and him, as he sure won't like those orders. :yes:

Thanks. I decided to portray Sigismund's chivalry in that battle. So as Alesandro Selvo had only his bodyguard, Sigismund and his retainers(even though he had an army of 15 units with him) slogged it out with them unaided - and won. It was risky, but then again Sigismund has done some quite crazy things.

Sorry about ruining your story, but I thought that the rebels might cause problems later. Besides, there are only peasants, archers, and crossbowmen. I think you should have no problems once you cross the bridge.

Oh, and I want to "spice" things up. I've been trying to get econ to set some "Swabian" policy, but since he wants to be a Kaiser unaffiliated with any house this has been difficult.

Be assured that I will not send any general to intentional death in battle. Besides, we like challenging battles. And you wouldn't want Leopold to be accused of cowardice. After all, he's only sat behind the walls of Vienna defending assaults. So that's another reason I gave him a chance to prove his worth on the field of battle.

Sigismund is clearly crossing the line from Chivalrous to freaking suicidal. :dizzy2:

Or are you just gunning for the "Brutally Scarred" trait?

Seriously take care of your avatar, the death of a ruling Chancellor, while good drama, would have a nasty effect on the Reich.

Edit: Besides oath-breakers don't deserve chivalry.

I know, I kept a good eye on him during the fight. Fortunately, I managed to outmanouever the Venetians and had the advantage of height. Also, he was sensible - he kept to the back of the fighting for the most part, although he did have a swipe or two at Alesandro

I am going for all good command and chivalry traits.

I know, but what better way is there than to "lead by example"? At least people wouldn't speak evil of me with a hero's death and all. Seriously, though, I don't intend to throw Sigismund away at all. I like my general very much, and if treated well, he should live for another 40 turns.

Yeah it's not like I didn't see this coming, considering the past differences between Sigismund and Leopold.
Already looking forward to the batte report. :eyebrows:

Battle is done and the enemies of the Reich are crushed!

I have uploaded kotr1138-1 for econ21, he can dig right in and take Bologna!

Great!:2thumbsup: Was it a hard battle Ituralde?

Nah not really, Kagemusha.

It was a pretty uncoordinated affair, with me just storming everything I had across the bridge. The Rebels withdrew after firing some volleys up a nearby ridge and a little beyond it. I stormed on in an attempt to secure the ridge, that's when the Rebels counterattacked, sending their general to certain doom on my Mercenary Spearmens pikes. The rest of the game I chased routers and had to fight a last pocket of Hussite resistance while the general's bodyguard kept coming back at me.

My battle report probably won't be up for another day or so, along with screenshots and everything. I finally got to play with my desktop PC. Oh the graphical glory, although my graphics card hates me. :thumbsdown:

Ignoramus: next time you want me to storm a settlement, you might want to give me some siege equipment. :wall:

Anyway, Bologna is ours again:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1138-2.zip

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Originally Posted by econ21

Ignoramus: next time you want me to storm a settlement, you might want to give me some siege equipment. :wall:

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I really like that :laugh4:

When was the decision to take Bologna, and fight the rebels?

or am I missing something? :embarassed:

Econ, so how did you take Bologna without the siege engines? Really need a your brilliant battle report on this. :D

The Bologna city walls had been damaged when Venice took it from us. They hadn't repaired the breach, so he was able to walk right in.

[edit] Sorry, that was incorrect. From his battle report it looks like he followed routers from the reinforcement army through the gates and captured them that way. Still, he could have just used the existing breach. The only reason he was allowed to attack at all was because of the breach.