eh? Omanes... who u talking about?
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eh? Omanes... who u talking about?
I have promised not to reveal to anybody, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stranger
Hmm - I find this particlur stance questionable and the follow-up answer leads me to doubt the stance even more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot
Vote: Omanes
Challenge: Pevergreen
When one demonstrates a lack of trust in their fellow townie's, I have no choice but to distrust them.
Statement: no-one entered the shop on night 1. If anyone can refute this, please do so now.
It's not a distrust in the town Redleg, it's more a distrust of the mafia hiding in the temple. Anybody could be in the group. Are you just taking advantage of my, partially suspicious, statements in anyway you can - like a mafioso?
Also, can pevergreen clearly state what he was doing on night 1? Please give all details, omitting nothing.
oh here we go... Pann's infamous I dont say anything asked instead i ask the entire game to suicide with me
BTW IF ANYONE CHALLENGES ME, MY SUPERIOR KUNG-FU SKILLS WILL CHOP HIM TO LITTLE TINE "I CANT DO STUFF IN NIGHTFASE" PIECES
Tsk Tsk - that is an extremely weak rebuttal. If your statement was suspicious as you yourself have claimed, it is up to you to provide futher explaination to alevate the problem. However it seems you have taken another route.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot
I am still awaiting an explanation that is better then what you have provided so far.
Going back to my earlier post, did anyone go to the shop on night 1?
boooh...
Pann, Sigurd, when I was working with him, pulled a similar role invention maneouvre to win the game. I, for one, believe you've screwed up somehow in your attempt to look like a helpful townie.
Vote: Pannonian
OK, I'll go and hunt for the vote tally now :wall:.
Challenge:The StrangerQuote:
Originally Posted by The Stranger
Also, Vote:The Stranger
Pleading ignorance......yeah not cool. Scummy.
Quote:
Originally Posted by tally
Orb, while I realize you have a point, and I'll admit that I myself was initially suspious of Pannnonian. However, I think he's being legit here. I believe that we're basically waiting for someone to confirm his role right now. If we go off killing everyone who reveals, we're basically handing the mafia the game on a silver platter.
For now: FoS: Orb. You seem a little to eager to kill off someone who revealed. However, I want to wait a little longer to evaluate things before I cast my vote.
I've received a PM from The Stranger that amounts to fishing. I'd like to be persuaded that he is innocent, but I would first like him to explain what he means by knowing who has the role I claim to have...please don't play this game with me (sic), let's come clean and work together?
Vote: The Stranger
Challenge: Killfr3nzy
Reason: Only posted to join, and this'll knock you down if you're mafia. Plus, Ichi's already going to try to dent TS' ego. I could do it far better, but...
GK, I appreciate the argument, but fake reveals are damn common, and I do not want to fall for that.
Xehh II 1 (Sapi)
Warluster 1 (Stig)
TS 3 (Blackaxe, Ichi, TS)
Pannonian 2 (Roadkill, Orb)
Omanes 1 (Redleg)
Redleg challenged Pevergreen
Ichi challenged TS
Orb challenged Killfr3nzy
TS is also being suspicious. But then, he's TS. I expected that. Most of what he did in CDTC revolved around remarkably bad fishing which turned out well enough.
Also, Pannonian is unwilling to reveal his role's specifics. This seems a little odd for someone who risks lynching if he doesn't and can easily get protection if he does.
I've given you some specifics to pursue, namely asking what pevergreen did on night 1, and whether or not anyone used the shop on night 1. What more did you expect by this stage of the game? If I'm loath to give full details of my role, it's because I don't want to reveal the full capabilities and limits of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orb
But, as I've said before, my role is unimportant - whether I'm lynched or not doesn't really matter. Have a look at my proposal, discuss whether it would be good or bad for the town irrespective of the individuals involved, then put it into action if the temple decides it's a good idea. Cast your vote, then forget about your suspicions for the moment, and look at the idea objectively.
I may regret this... I bought something from the shop on night one... Now why did you want to know?
Someone told me no-one entered the shop on night 1. I'd like to hear from anyone else who did, and from pevergreen concerning what he did on night 1, before giving more details. For anyone who wishes to check, I trained on my own on night 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackAxe3001
If the person who told me (you know who you are) wishes to explain this discrepancy privately, feel free to PM me.
Why do you want to know what i did on Night one?
Killfr3nzy has had a bad, unwalkable injury and has been sick for the last week.
In 2 days time, TB and Killfr3nzu should start posting again.
I have specific information about what you were doing on night 1, and I want to check if what you say matches up to what I have.Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
There. You have it now.
Unvote
Vote: Pannonian
4 mafia eh? Well how do you know?
If you have a pro-town role you already revealed it. Help us by telling us the main part of it.
And don't bandwagon ... btw I thought you were going to be inactive, doesn't really look like it does it?
And you want to know from Pever what he does, but you won't reveal yourself. Now don't act like a bad-mafia, atleast put some effort into it.
Pevergreen's explanation matches up with the information I have. I look forward to the duels.
PS. Can the person who told me about the shop PM me with an explanation of why their information differs from what's in the thread?
Also:
Challenge Pannonian
It might cost me my night training, but he will lose his night action if I win
What more were you expecting by round 2? I gave 2 specific statements or requests, which could be equally specifically confirmed or refuted. I made a specific request of Pevergreen, which he gave me the specific truth about (which would have been hard to falsify, hence my request). Now there is that other specific statement, that no-one entered the shop on night 1, which has been equally specifically refuted by Blackaxe. Now I'd like the person who told me of that to give me an explanation. If I revealed more details about my role earlier, it would have given him an easy explanation. Because I've kept part of my role hidden, explaining the discrepancy becomes trickier if he had made up his information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
Did you miss the bit where I said what I did on night 1? I trained on my own.Quote:
And don't bandwagon ... btw I thought you were going to be inactive, doesn't really look like it does it?
And you want to know from Pever what he does, but you won't reveal yourself. Now don't act like a bad-mafia, atleast put some effort into it.
As for my activity - this was why I shied away from Mafia games for a while in the first place - because I can't resist the activity when I'm in a game. When I don't have a clue, I'll read or a while before making a move. But when I'm interested in something, I'll press the point. Check the pattern in all the other long games I've played.
We all know you are either pro town or mafia.
If your mafia you will survive the night
If your pro town you will die
Simple as that. You have nothing to lose, as every sensible mafia would attack you.
Why do you demand a role explanation from TS if you don't fess up yourself.
I now tell you to give an explanation. As you ask them of others.
The more people you will make explane the easier it gets for mafia. Whatever you're doing your not helping the town.
Where did I say anything about asking what you did on the first night. You have a special role and are deadmeat. I just want an explanation, as you seem to want them as well.Quote:
Did you miss the bit where I said what I did on night 1? I trained on my own.
Point to a post where I fished for role explanations. I asked Pevergreen to reveal his activity on night 1 - I neither asked for his role, nor did I expect it. I even reciprocally told him what I did that night, as an example of the kind of explanation I wanted. He gave an explanation in that format, and it matched what I knew to be true, so I was satisfied. FYI, I still don't know what role he has, if any. I also pointed to a suspicious PM I was sent by The Stranger, which as I said amounted to role fishing. In it, he told me he knew who else had the role I was claiming (I claimed no specific role, just gave the general gist), and asked to to stop playing with him, come clean, and work together. I asked for an explanation of that PM. Note again, I did not ask what role he had, for that would give away information that could be used by mafia (something you're asking of me, curiously enough).Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
All that is in the public thread, which all can read and check for themselves. Your allegations don't match up to what's publicly visible, and if anyone thinks they have incriminatory PMs from me, feel free to give the details.
If ask Pever what he did this night, and he has a pro-town role he can either reveal it, which is bad, or lie. If he's mafia he will also lie.
What use is it asking for what people did? Apart from helping the mafia making conclusions.
You already gave away that you have a pro-town role (as you knew about 4 mafia, how else would you know). You have nothing to lose and will be killed tonight. Unless your mafia yourself that is.
I vote no lynch(can I do that),I don't have enough information to vote for anyone.