A Game of Cold-Blooded Murder [Game Over]

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Originally Posted by Elite Ferret

He said "What are you talking about? I'm a townie... Are you even allowed to PM me? I don't think you should be seeing as you are dead."

I took that as a go ahead.

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FoS: Elite Ferret: I think you are scum

I'm convinced. Burn his body.
vote_burn: Elite Ferret

It would be a bad idea to lynch Classical Hero.

He can't be lynched anyway.

Vote: Classical Hero

Okay, I agree with that choice, Vote: Robbiecon.

Majority nearly reached on robbiecon.

That was fast!

Vote: Visorslash

...because untested unanimity is usually unwise...

Yeah, this bandwagon got started a little too strongly, I think. It's good we're putting Chaotix out of business, but we do need some discussion to work with later on. But I suppose that will naturally come as the game gets closer to the end.

In the meantime, I'm wondering why there wasn't a kill last night. Only two reasons I can see: the guilty party didn't send in valid orders, or someone's role prevented a murder. If anybody protected or role-blocked anyone last night, that's relevant info. If anybody out there did something along those lines last night and you trust me, feel free to PM me about it. I'm not going to make it public info just yet, but I wouldn't recommend keeping it to yourself for too long, in case you wind up a victim as some point and can no longer share what you know with anyone.

Anybody want to take a guess at the number of guilty parties in this game? Based on the write-ups, I think it's safe to say that Elite Ferret had at least one partner, while Classical Hero was most likely a solo party. Clearly he had some powers/abilities at his disposal, but they should be irrelevant now. Does two mafia (our captors, in the context of the game) and one chaotic neutral party sound like enough non-townies for a game with 23 players? ATPG has certainly hinted that that's the case, but it seems too straight-forward for such a twisted premise.

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...because untested unanimity is usually unwise...

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How about untested equanimity?

:wink:

Very well. Vote: robbiecon.

Round ended. Writeup in progress.

Me, belligerent?
Is vote: Dark Feather belligerent?
I am nothing if not consistent. I am a type A townie. Scumdar lock early. Just watching the show.

damn

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end of day


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it is just not the same without you my love/


i cannot bring myself to commit the act/


i enjoy watching you do it/


but I will always be the voyeur/


the toys were able to break us/


and so many of our fantasies will no longer come true/


we had so many elaborate deaths planned for them/


and if i had your strength they would suffer those deaths/


and we would shatter those toys one by one/


still they would suspect nothing/


for we made the puzzle too difficult to solve/


i have to go now my love/


though i could fight onward/


it would be meaningless without you/


goodbye my love.







Askthepizzaguy stood up from where he was sitting in the corner. His quiet sobbing didn't look out of place. But somehow, nobody even noticed he was there, even when he had participated in their discussions.

Perhaps they didn't want to see him there. But all the clues had been hidden away, in the rules which were written for all to see.

When he forced the majority on Elite Ferret, he was certain they would notice him then. His death would have inspired his love to kill them even more viciously. And slaughter them even faster. And so, his vote had a purpose.

But his love was too cunning, even for him. He didn't even know that Elite Ferret was the one he admired from afar. He always wore that hood, and kept his face covered.

And so, faced with the inevitability of being trapped in the cage with his Toys, with nothing to eat, and no way of secretly killing them off, he decided that the game was over.

The Toys had won. And they would be free to escape from the Playground.

He knew what he was doing. When he voted to put robbiecon to death, it was clear that he was crying over the loss of Elite Ferret, not because he was helplessly trapped alongside them.

Even as he approached robbiecon, he knew he would be unable to do the deed personally. He could never summon the courage.

He thought about tormenting them further.

But it wouldn't be the same without his love.

He would not enjoy their deaths. They would be far less inspired. Mere beatings and strangulation.

They would not be art.

And without his Muse, they would never be truly inspired.




"though i could torment you further/


it is clear that you have broken us/


it was my hope that we could break you/


but you are too strong-willed/


you are free to go."






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broken toys/

chaotix - head smashed in with hammer
townhughthom- legs sawed off on the 'merry-go-round'
autolycus- fell into a burning ring of fire
Jarema- turned into a french fried version of himself
rickinator9- left this world on a sad note
edse- didnt even see it coming
classical_hero / avatar of chaotix- his chest has much in the way of cleavage now
caius- ....................... went smushy
zack- felt the need to spill his guts
Elite Ferret- Tormentor of Toys
Askthepizzaguy- Keeper of Toys

congratulations

Postgame commentary


askthepizzaguy is a character which has been known to insert himself into his own stories from time to time.

however/ being a balanced game designer/ such an act is always problematic.

it needs to be fair to the other players.

in each instance of such a twist/ the game was winnable without voting for him.

in the golden rule/ you win by being the last one standing/ or no lynch no murdering/

and realizing that the solution is to treat others as you would wish to be treated/

as was the titular hint.

in the snatcher/ you could win by eliminating the player currently inhabited by askthepizzaguy.

but voting for askthepizzaguy would do nothing.

for askthepizzaguy to be an actual player/ it would have to be a secret.

which is why i posted "in" in bold/ after i announced that this is how you announce that you are playing.

the lack of player list and official tallies made it possible to hide/

but there would have to be some restrictions/

for one/ i cannot actually be the game host/ which means i needed chaotix to host the game/

i designed it but gave the design to him so the other roles would be randomized/

and requested that he add a role to the game that i did not know about/

which was not a detective or killing role for balance reasons/

therefore the game setup would be a mystery to me/

for my partner/ they would not fear investigation or murder/ but could only murder once per night/

unless i had been lynched/

then they could murder twice per night/

which would help buff the role which otherwise has little chance of surviving the game.

for myself/

i cannot know the identity of my partner/

i cannot communicate with my partner/

i cannot murder/

all i can do is act as a voting partner/

and i must also for fairness reasons make it clear that i am playing before 'lynch or lose' by voting unprovoked.

further/ i must vote for anyone who votes for me

and i put hints in the rules.

thus the game is solvable and fair to all.

i believe you would have solved it eventually but it would take a long time/

and if you did not solve it/ such a victory would be hollow/

and not much fun for either myself or my fellow players.

i gambled that i could manipulate you into lynching me first which would have been an awesome twist/

and given my partner new life/

but he was dead before i could set those events in motion/

so i played poorly and you played well/

rather than subject you to what would probably be more than a month of chasing ghosts/

i concede/ with my partner's consent.

i am not afraid to lose this game/ i just feel i didn't design it that well.

i hope you still had fun.

I WILL MAKE YOU SUFFER YOU SOME OTHER TIME.... MWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

You may begin by posting the word in, in bold thusly. Or you can try to be more clever and think of a subtler way.

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Start with the rules, notice how I bolded "in" a second time, and re-read the game with the knowledge you have now.

I bet that you'll find some enjoyment in picking up on my hints.

A subtler way, indeed...

Vote : MRD

:( not a fan of the twist, but other than that good game indeed

Ugh, there was another page...

I suspected there would be something like that, honestly. The "think outside of the box thing" had been bothering me for a while and I wondered if we didn't have to lynch the host in order to win the game.

I had fun and I really appreciated the majority vote in combination with Chaotix putting pressure on the players when it took too long. I think that part of your concept could be useful in future games.

Yay, we won!
Thanks for hosting Chaotix and ATPG. I still wonder what would have happened if we got to the latter rounds where bandwaggoning would be more devastating.

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Or is it a fake ending? Is it over yet?

Thanks to ATPG for the concept and Chaotix for hosting. I really enjoyed it. :bow:

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rather than subject you to what would probably be more than a month of chasing ghosts...

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While I appreciate this, part of me is disappointed that we weren't allowed the time to solve the mystery and exact a long and lingering revenge. I had some nagging suspicions that you were involved, but not enough at this stage to act on them. Perhaps you were just too subtle...

And finally, just something that is bothering me. Andres: in what way am I 'always so suspicious'? I am genuinely confused...

Thanks for playing, all.

I had fun scaring you with my red text.

I'll post the role PMs soon.

Aw, I'm sad to see it end so soon, especially since ICFFoF is also nearing completion, but it was very fun while it lasted. I liked the setting and the sense of urgency created by the rules. I don't personally care for the gory, graphic death scenes, but I appreciated the serious tone they set. Much like watching Saw the first time, I figured there was an important twist coming, but I don't think I would have ever figured it out. While I first played mafia here at the .Org years ago, I haven't been very active since then, and up until now I hadn't participated in any games with "tricky" elements like voting for the host. But I'm starting to learn how cleverly you guys think.
:bow:
Thanks for hosting, ATPG! Sorry it didn't go quite as intended, but I suppose that's a necessary risk with such an elaborate design. Chaotix was a real wildcard, gotta give him credit for playing his part well (and of course for helping host).

Special role PMs:

Chaotix:

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

ROLE PM-

You're dead. [Neutral, no victory condition]





You will assist with the moderator duties that I cannot have while playing.

I require no assistance with the tally, although an extra set of eyes to make sure it is correct is welcome. I'll administer the lynches, but I won't know if the person being lynched is town, mafia, or what. You'll have to shoot me a PM if the person being lynched is anything besides a vanilla townie, so that it can be reflected in the list of the dead.

At night, any players with night actions will send them directly to you, which will be made abundantly clear in the role PMs they get. If they accidentally send them to me, I don't have any powers which can take advantage of this fact anyway, and it's their own fault for not reading the rules properly. I would then forward such a PM to you.

You will send me the results of the night only, I just need to know who needs to be added to the list of the dead. I won't know the origin of the action or anything else that happened. You'll send out result PMs to those who need them.

Ground rules, please follow:

1) Randomize the other roles besides my own, send out the role PMs I designed.

2) Add a surprise role of your own design- non-killing, non-investigatory please

3) Do not ever post a list of the living players, only the dead.

4) If 24 hours have passed without a vote, and no voting majority has been reached, a warning from the moderator is issued, that the round will end 24 hours thereafter. The round will end at the end of those 24 hours, regardless of what happens, to keep the game moving and not stagnant.

5) In the unlikely event the vote is tied at the end of a round that has ended by 24 hour warning, the player with the least number of posts in the game, and who has failed to vote that round, will be removed from play. [lynched instead of the tied candidates]


This is the secret, official list of players:

• Askthepizzaguy
• LazyMcCrow
• Gaius Scribonius Curio
• Darth Feather
• BSmith
• rickinator9
• Visorslash
• B_Ray
• Caius
• Jarema
• Makrell
• Elite Ferret
• Diana Abnoba
• townhughthom
• Autolycus
• Edse
• Montmorency
• robbiecon
• Major Robert Dump
• classical_hero
• Zack
• Seon
• Andres

I will send the other PMs to you shortly.

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Elite Ferret

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Originally Posted by Chaotix

Elite Ferret

You are a ruthless cold-blooded murderer.

You are a sick, demented freak who enjoys killing. And you have an admirer, who really enjoys your handiwork. You get love letters all the time, and contained within these love letters are depictions of violent, horrific murder, for the purposes of entertainment and gratification.

You both have set up a game which will allow you to slaughter as many victims as possible, in just the way that you both enjoy. Your partner loves to be as close to the action as possible, and also likes to remain anonymous. You've never actually met.

He or she has helped you assemble this group of victims in an abandoned warehouse, through acts of kidnapping. But he or she has also decided to pose as one of the victims, to get the full enjoyment of watching the victims squirm, and die horribly.

Your partner will not be killing. You are not even allowed to know who they are. But, they count toward your victory condition, as if they were your full partner.

In this abandoned warehouse, rebuilt into a giant sadistic prison and torture chamber, you will execute the innocents one per night, until they are all dead, or until they figure out that they were supposed to kill you.

If your partner is killed, you will begin killing twice per night, enraged at the loss of your secret admirer. It will become obvious after the fact who your partner was, because the love letters will stop.

If you are killed, your partner will have to go on and try to torment your victims without you.


Victory condition- Your team must be equal to or greater in number than the remainder of the living players.

Night actions: Send your murder choice to Chaotix every night phase.

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classical_hero

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Originally Posted by Chaotix

classical_hero

You are a newly-possessed servant of chaos.

You were once destined to be a victim of this sick little game you are trapped in, but the fates have seen fit to grant you power beyond your greatest imagination. You will punish those responsible for trapping you here. The hunters shall become the hunted.

The rules of the game were broken when the Chaotic God was removed from play. As such, the Chaotic God has decided to break the rules in his own way to repay the debt. You are his secret rulebreaker, and you have been granted three boons to assist you in the destruction of this game.

FIRE – THE WRATH OF CHAOTIX

The Chaotic God has granted you the power to induce chaos amongst your foes. You have the ability to cause every action during the night to be sent to a random target instead of its original intended target. The flames of chaos are difficult for mortals to wield, however, and upon using this action, you cannot do anything the following night and you must wait 5 nights before you can use it again.

THUNDER – THE WARD OF CHAOTIX

The Chaotic God has granted you the power to protect those who your foes would harm. You have the ability to guard any other living player from attack at night, provided you successfully predict they are going to be attacked. The noise and chaos you create will be so great that the player under assault will be able to escape. There are no restrictions on this action.

WIND – THE VOICE OF CHAOTIX

The Chaotic God cannot grant you immortality, so he has granted you the next best thing. The barrier to the realm of the dead has been weakened in this place, and the voices of their spirits can be heard. Should you die before you have exerted the vengeance of Chaotix on your foes, your vote will still have influence over the congregation.

Victory condition- Bring glory to the Chaotic God, and make yourself instrumental in the downfall of his foes.

Send all night actions (and questions) to Chaotix.

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Askthepizzaguy

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Originally Posted by Chaotix

Askthepizzaguy

You are a ruthless sadistic sociopath.

You are a sick, demented freak who enjoys watching people die. You have been following the work of a serial killer, and become a great admirer of this person. You've been sending this person love letters for some time now, sharing fantasies and asking the killer to act them out in real life.

You both have set up a game which will allow you to slaughter as many victims as possible, in just the way that you both enjoy. You love to be as close to the action as possible, and like to remain anonymous.

You've helped assemble this group of victims in an abandoned warehouse, through acts of kidnapping. You are posing as one of the victims, to get the full enjoyment of watching the victims squirm, and die horribly.

Here are the rules:

You enjoy watching the act of murder, but prefer only to watch. You don't like performing the act yourself. Although a certain "chaotic" victim did almost escape, and you were forced to beat him to death with a hammer. You swore that you would save the rest of the victims for your love to destroy personally.

1) You cannot murder.

Your partner is blending in with the other victims as well, and is a master of disguises.

2) You are not allowed to know who your partner is.

You are a valid target for murder, and also, for lynching. To ensure a fair "game", you must at least make your presence known.

3) At least once per game, you absolutely must place a legal vote. This must happen before there are only six remaining players, or you lose outright.

You are extremely anti-social. You don't handle being accused very well.

4) You must vote for anyone who votes for you, before that round ends.


Victory condition- Your team must be equal to or greater in number than the remainder of the living players.

Night actions: None.

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With that, all role PMs have been sent. You may begin the game.

A note: remember to be careful about what you do. There are some parts of this game that you didn't write the rules for.

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So, a game with one SK, another SK, one of the SK's unknown partner, and… hey, this was an interesting setup. It's sitll a bit creepy that you can write those things out of your arse just like that, Pizzamandudeboy.

classical_hero was not a Serial Killer.

He was a town-aligned power role.

Additionally, a mechanic unknown to all but myself - classical_hero was not the only player able to vote after death.

In fact - ALL players had this power. Even people who were not in the game could drop in spontaneously and make a valid vote. I was the only user on this site not allowed to vote in this game.

This was payback for ATPG's ability to influence the vote without other people knowing he was playing - in fact, everybody was a player, and if they figured it out via induction, they could turn his trick back on him.

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Originally Posted by Chaotix

classical_hero was not a Serial Killer.

He was a town-aligned power role.

Additionally, a mechanic unknown to all but myself - classical_hero was not the only player able to vote after death.

In fact - ALL players had this power. Even people who were not in the game could drop in spontaneously and make a valid vote. I was the only user on this site not allowed to vote in this game.

This was payback for ATPG's ability to influence the vote without other people knowing he was playing - in fact, everybody was a player, and if they figured it out via induction, they could turn his trick back on him.

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I mentioned something similar that in one of threads about an idea I would like to see. Awesome to see someone actually doing something like that.

Thanks for the game Pizzaguy and Chaotix. I didn't think majority would be reached so early in this day phase, not that it mattered in the end.

Thanks Chaotix for hosting, and Pizza for messing again with our minds. Interesting concept. To bad it ended so soon, I was just starting to get into it. :bow:

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Originally Posted by El Barto

So, a game with one SK, another SK, one of the SK's unknown partner, and… hey, this was an interesting setup. It's sitll a bit creepy that you can write those things out of your arse just like that, Pizzamandudeboy.

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I believe I joined mafia in the first place because I wanted to write elaborate death scenes involving characters you'd identify with.

From the very first Simpsons game to the murder manor games to this one- if you're going to die in a mafia game, I prefer it to be more memorable than:

El Barto was found dead in the morning.

Apologies to those who don't like gory writeups. I tend to stay away from the genuinely disturbing, but I feel at least once a year, I need to do a Murder Manor or a Psycho Mafia or a Dinner Party where the writeups are dead serious and not laugh out loud funny. The harsh, dangerous tone helps set the mood.

Thanks to all for playing- sorry I chose to end it early, those of you who wanted to fight on: There are other game hosts waiting and unfortunately due to the number of people left and how far away you were from guessing me, it would have taken too long for the payoff.

You did well, there was no way I'd survive to the final round and vote you guys dead. As such, tipping the king over is the choice I made not just for myself but those waiting to host a game.

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Originally Posted by Chaotix

Additionally, a mechanic unknown to all but myself - classical_hero was not the only player able to vote after death.

In fact - ALL players had this power. Even people who were not in the game could drop in spontaneously and make a valid vote. I was the only user on this site not allowed to vote in this game.

This was payback for ATPG's ability to influence the vote without other people knowing he was playing - in fact, everybody was a player, and if they figured it out via induction, they could turn his trick back on him.

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So does that mean a majority could have been reached without anyone actually in the game posting?

Certainly some interesting mechanics here, which I'd like to see used in future games. Thanks for hosting guys.

The torture of the toys has come to an end, for now.

My head melted. At least it could have done, quite explicitly in the text, if the game had carried on. Thanks for hosting Pizzaguy. I'll try to be more savvy in the next one.

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Originally Posted by Ferret

So does that mean a majority could have been reached without anyone actually in the game from posting?

Certainly some interesting mechanics here, which I'd like to see used in future games. Thanks for hosting guys.

The torture of the toys has come to an end, for now.

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That's correct - the "majority" was based on the number of living players in the list, but could be caused by anyone.

Although I deemed the actual chances of anybody but classical_hero making use of this ability pretty low.

And the chances of people not even in the game, even lower.

There's a small hint in classical's role PM, but I didn't tell him - this was more of a secret ability to be unlocked if the town chanced upon it by a random dead townie voting as a joke and then causing a lynch with it.