Hey - you actually look like your avatar (at least on that picture - according to your description, the similarity ceased to exist along several dimensions ~;) )
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Hey - you actually look like your avatar (at least on that picture - according to your description, the similarity ceased to exist along several dimensions ~;) )
When I selected my avatar, I actually looked like it. As my forehead has turned into a 5-head, and then some, yeah, I probably should go avatar shopping again. The beard will come back this Fall, so I'm keeping that. Wifey is already on my ass about it. Guess my naked face is pretty ugly. ~D
Don, you look like Randy Quaid!
Him or Jim Belushi (when I don't have the beard). I get both a lot.
Are you imagining a socialist paradise?
John Lennon!!
Now Panzer there is nothing wrong with John Lennon. Admit it, you know deep down you think he is a great man.
Hehe, i like his music. I even found myself singing along with Imagine the other day in the car and almost crashed.
Tell me you dont see the resemblence.
http://www.beatles-popart.com/beatle...igJohnbigD.jpg
John Lennon didn't die! He lives on as BP.
Me a while ago..
https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y1...Picture020.jpg
I really need a digital camera or something..
Great, man left side is hard. Thats the side that you get all the "great strikers" on. Always hated wing, much more of a center man myself. Strategic Command I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
And Panzer from that pic I would have thought you would have been a liberal, instead of your conservative self. Don't look conservative at all.
Heh.. my hair is much longer now.. its more due to lazyness than a political statement though. :embarassed:Quote:
And Panzer from that pic I would have thought you would have been a liberal, instead of your conservative self. Don't look conservative at all.
thanks BP. good stuff :)
K.
=PanzerJager
Are you imagining a socialist paradise?
Only is I can rule with the flicker of mein eyes.
thanks BP. good stuff :)
I have more good stuff in the works. ~D
I'm gonna limit my posts in the tavern though, it's dangerous for me(I'm insane). ~;)
It is Paint Shop Pro (9). *I think* that the effects were: hot wax coating, and then kaleidoscope for the third one, I don't remember exactly what I did to get the other two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraellin
But* the first two were actually modified from one of the pics in the bunny suicides thread that was here a while back...
BTW,
which is better?!
Adobe Photoshop or Corel Paint Shop Pro?
I really need to find out because I need it for the Byzantium Total War mod.... To create new units....
http://www.melodramatic.com/profile_.../e/neongod.jpg
I don't do image hosting, so I'm just gonna post one from my blog. Hotlinking hasn't worked in the past, but it seems to now...
My face doesn't always look like that, but it's my most common expression.
Some pretty interesting combat pictures from ww2 in color...
http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/al...ermans/ahx.jpg
http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/al...ermans/afd.jpg
http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/al...ermans/ack.jpg
http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/al...ermans/acf.jpg
http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/al...ermans/acc.jpg
http://www.ww2incolor.com/gallery/al...ermans/aan.jpg
http://www.panzer.punkt.pl/galerie_1...08_fotocol.jpg
http://www.panzer.punkt.pl/galerie_1..._kolor/r_4.jpg http://www.panzer.punkt.pl/galerie_1..._kolor/r_2.jpg
I went to Arizona on holiday last month and I've finally gotten around to prepping some of my pictures for posting. I'll post them in about 3 batches. First up is the Grand Canyon.
https://home.comcast.net/~gbresslr/images/Arizona31.jpg
https://home.comcast.net/~gbresslr/i...Arizona103.jpg
https://home.comcast.net/~gbresslr/i...Arizona139.jpg
In the middle of the left side of the picture below, we catch a glimpse of the elusive Colorado River. Yes, there is a river down there.
https://home.comcast.net/~gbresslr/i...Arizona155.jpg
The picture below is one of my favourites. I really like the layered effect of the canyon walls as you look off into the distance.
https://home.comcast.net/~gbresslr/i...Arizona209.jpg
Next is a zoomed-in picture is of a hikers' bridge across the Colorado. This view is looking down one mile (1.7km) to the bridge. It allows hikers from a trail on the South Rim to cross the river near the Phantom Ranch which is the only lodgings available at the bottom of the canyon.
https://home.comcast.net/~gbresslr/i...Arizona109.JPG
Now for a couple of sunset pictures. In the first picture, note the flattopped, sunlit mesa on the left casts its shadow on the distant canyon wall on the right.
https://home.comcast.net/~gbresslr/i...Arizona245.jpg
https://home.comcast.net/~gbresslr/i...Arizona252.jpg
Next batch will be Monument Valley.
Great pictures, Greg :thumbsup:
I love that place ~:cool:
Wonderful! Gorgeous!
My Lord, we're going to have to annex that part of the US. :yes:
i spruced one of these up, greg. hope you dont mind.
http://mizus.com/kraellin/Arizona252-1-k-1a.jpg
K.
:stunned: Very niiiiiiice Krae. How can I mind when you've taken details already there but enhanced them to make them visible? I've got to learn how to do that.
thanks, greg :)
but you do realize that you're only encouraging me and that i cant be held to blame for the next one ;)
http://mizus.com/kraellin/Arizona204-2-k-1.jpghttp://mizus.com/kraellin/Arizona209-2-k-1.jpg
K.
:laugh4: That's exactly how it looked to the eye! How'd you know?
Okay, on to Monument Valley, nestled on the Arizona/Utah border and the setting of many classic Western movies.
Below, the Left Mitten is in the foreground. The Right Mitten is nearby but not in the picture from this angle.
https://home.comcast.net/~gbresslr/i...Arizona484.jpg
Next is the rock column known as the Totem Pole.
https://home.comcast.net/~gbresslr/i...Arizona533.jpg
Next is a series of pictures of sunrise over Monument Valley as seen from the patio of our room - can't complain about the view!
https://home.comcast.net/~gbresslr/i...rizona540a.JPG
https://home.comcast.net/~gbresslr/i...Arizona548.jpg
https://home.comcast.net/~gbresslr/i...Arizona552.jpg
https://home.comcast.net/~gbresslr/i...Arizona566.jpg
A petroglyph of antelope:
https://home.comcast.net/~gbresslr/i...Arizona509.jpg
Not far from Monument Valley is the Navajo National Monument featuring ancient cliff dwellings. Only 23 people per day are allowed to hike to the ruins for a close look, so we had to settle for a view from across the canyon - normal view and zoomed in:
https://home.comcast.net/~gbresslr/i...Arizona377.jpg
https://home.comcast.net/~gbresslr/i...Arizona379.jpg
Last batch will feature the Petrified Forest, Canyon de Shelly and weirdness on Route 66.
Koyanisquasti
da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da
Koyanisquasti
da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da
Koyanisquatsi....
Wow ~:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregoshi
That's something we definitely missed when we went to Monument Valley.
Quite a mistake it seems.
WOW ! Awesome Pics Greg !
Real nice Krae. Do you know of any tutorials I could use to enhance my image... well enhancing skills? I have loads of pictures on my PC I'd like to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraellin
sinan,
this would depend on what type of software you have for doing this sort of work. if you've got something like photoshop or corel's painter or paint shop pro, there are tons of tutorials on the respective manufacturer's site, user group and fan sites and related web sites. you can also always read the docs that came with the software ;)
if you've got something less than one of those pieces of software, maybe a hewlett packard photo touch-up type or something similar, i doubt you'll find many docs/tutorials other than what came with the software.
i use paint shop pro 7.xx and gained most of my basic knowledge from reading the book that came with it or using the built in help function of the software. and for extra over and above type help, i hang out on www.retouchpro.com . that's a great site for getting and giving help for retouching, restoration, reconstruction, photo art, photo manipulation and so on.
K.
i tried to do what kraellin did with irfanview.. not very good, but not bad for someone who has no idea what they're doing lol. :undecided:
https://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2275/ssedit8ni.jpg
i tried another picture in gimp.. this picture was much harder (for me) to get details out of..
gregoshi, let me know if you want me to take these pics down! i'll PM you.
https://img261.imageshack.us/img261/...impedit0ag.jpg
big john,
the first one you did just fine. almost a complete duplicate of mine. the 2nd may or may not be the fault of you or the gimp. sometimes in a darkened area there's just not enough detail to work with. the same can be true of a very white area.
K.
the trick on the 2nd one, BJ, is not to bring out the forefront, but to highlight the contrast of the background/foreground and the colors.... like so:
http://mizus.com/kraellin/ariz-1-k-1.jpg
K.
yeah, it was a very dark picture to begin with.. but i'm sure my lack of skill/freeware proggies don't help. in your version, i can't see much detail in the ground, was the detail in my version just an artifact of my manipulations?
here's two more, used gimp and irfanview together.. but i can't get detail out of the ground without washing out the sky.. any other pointers krae?
https://img330.imageshack.us/img330/...impedit0bn.jpg
https://img330.imageshack.us/img330/...mpedit21pt.jpg
BJ,
no, it wasnt your program or lack of skill. there just wasnt enough light in the original to give much detail. you got about all that was there without completely washing it out. interesting that the car showed up :)
there's a couple things you can do here. first, do a resize and double the image size. if it started as an 800 x 600, make it a 1600 x 1200. this will give you a bit more detail as you work.
dont do the whole image when you're using contrast/brightness. make a selection of the sky, or the ground, either one. base the selection on 'lightness'. and just set your 'tolerance' so that you get ONLY the sky in the selection. THEN, either invert the selection so the ground is selected instead of the sky, or, work on the sky first and then invert. when you then apply other filters and tools, they will ONLY apply to the selected area. dont know if irfanview can do this, but the gimp shld be able to quite nicely. this will allow you to work on the different areas separately. and, just to blend in the two separate areas a bit better, you might also add a small 'feathering' amount to the selection tool before you make the selection.
K.
oh, and you might want to use the 'magic wand' tool for making the selection. base it on 'luminance' and not 'hue' or 'rgb value'.
K.
thansk for the tips krae, i was messing with the "magic wand" toold before, but i wasn't getting the result i wanted. now that i have a plan (via your directions), though, maybe i'll get better results. :thumbsup:
A couple of old pics from the archipelago:
http://koti.mbnet.fi/makealho/meri/IMG_0894small.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/makealho/meri/IMG_0920small.jpg
Edit: Oops, they were big.. I'll resize them..
Edit2: Now that's better.
ok, here's an attempt at adjusting selected fields of the image (i used the magic wand). is there a way to deal with the edge between the terrain and sky (esp. around the sun and on the far right horizon)?
https://img332.imageshack.us/img332/...go2smiv5rs.jpg
btw, those pictures are awesome The_Mark!
BJ,
yes, you can correct for this. here's 3 examples of getting rid of the rim between the fore and background.
in the first one, i used the magic wand with a feathering of 2, i think it was. in the 2nd one, i used no feathering.
and in the third i made the feathering about 12 or so.
what the feathering does is add extra area to the normal selection. your magic wand will still select its normal area, but after it does, but before it displays, it appends however much feathering you set to the selection. this allows you to overlap the selection areas and feather out the differences.
http://mizus.com/kraellin/image3.jpgimage 1 with 2 feather:
http://mizus.com/kraellin/Image1.jpg
image 2 with 0 feather:
http://mizus.com/kraellin/Image2.jpg
image 3 with 12 feather:
http://mizus.com/kraellin/Image3.jpg
notice on the last image that there is no rimming between the fore and background.
also, in your rendition, you have to realize that greg's camera was prolly not a real high resolution camera. maybe 2 or 3 megapixels, greg? so, in good light things look just fine, but as you lighten or darken to great extents it's not like analog film as much. a lot of the detail gets lost in the sensors. so, trying to bring back that detail is generally difficult to do. and sometimes, it's just better to not lighten the image up so much :)
btw, i went a little crazy on the colors here just for the heck of it :)
nice pics, the mark! what archipelago is that?
K.
thanks krae. i'll mess around with the feathering tool. i wasn't patient enough to play with it last time. :embarassed:
btw, i wasn't really trying to "improve" greg's pics, i just wanted to see what was hiding in the darkness. i'll keep your tips in mind for if i actually do touch-up some photos. :thumbsup:
Very nice work gentlemen. Thanks to Sinan and Big John for asking Krae the very questions I had in mind and thanks to Krae for the little tutorials. Now I've got to play around a little with my images.
As to Krae's question about my camera, I have a 5mp camera. I was shooting at a "standard" resolution rather than "fine" and image size one notch below maximum size. The original images are about 1.4mb in size and 2048x1536 in dimension. I resized them down to 800x600 for internet display.
If the image was taken when dark and when not using spcial filtering in exposure there's little one can do to make it brighter without affecting the quality. I guess it's good enough for some people though. :smartass:
man this stuff is addictive! i still haven't ironed out the edge-effect business with that one pic (the far right side still gives me trouble), but i tried a simple enhancement of two of these cliff-dwelling pics..
https://img346.imageshack.us/img346/...iff25mj.th.jpg
https://img346.imageshack.us/img346/...iff18at.th.jpg
i've also been messing with trying to re-touch old photos.. anyone know a tutorial for removing tears/folds from old-photo scans?
edyz,
dont think anyone answered your question about psp vs ps. photoshop is by far the cadillac of graphic editors. however, you're also going to pay a cadillac's price for it and wade through a pretty complex program and higher learning curve. psp is about 1/5th the price for their latest version compared to ps and if you get the download version it's about 1/10th of the price.
as to which to use, frankly, i'd use psp for what you want. it's easier, cheaper, quicker to learn, yet powerful enough to do most anything you'd want in mod graphics. you might even get the older shareware version, 4.12. at one time it was available on the Org's downloads. i put it there over a year ago, so dont know if it's still there or not.
greg,
you're welcome. and thanks for some great shots :)
ah, ok, so several factors there as to why the lowered detail. thanks greg.
BJ,
yes, it's extremely addictive ;)
and i do photo restorations. so, ask away. take a look at the thread in the frontroom about anyone an artist here. i posted several pieces of my work there, two of which were befores and afters of a restoration that had several rips and tears. generally speaking, there are two major steps in a restoration; bringing out the detail which used to be there, and cleaning up the image. you almost always start with bringing back the detail and then do the cleanup/repair.
btw, your cliff dwelling enhancements look good :)
K.
hey krae! seeing as you're the pro, how would you go about retouching this magazine scan? (click on the thumbnail)
https://img338.imageshack.us/img338/...sere3tb.th.jpg
the major problem, to me, is the bleed-through of the opposite side of the page. is there a way to lessen that effect on the woman at least?
lots of ways to do it, actually. here's one example:
http://mizus.com/kraellin/Image222a.bmp
i used a program/plugin called Neat Image and treated the bleed as noise. neat image reduces noise. i purposely over-compensated the noise reduction then saved that image and used the original image in psp and added a layer to that with the filtered image and then cleaned it up a bit more with things like clone.
there's other ways to do it, especially if you only wanted to clean up the woman.
K.
Wow...now I know where to go to find wallpapers if I don't want to use the babe thread ~D
Amazing guys. Just amazing.
Here are some of my pictures I took while I studied abroad (no...not a woman...I was in Fiji, Australia and New Zealand).
Mitre peak:
https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a...lfordSound.jpg
Mt Cook: (this one could use a little enhancement, but I lack the software...and there is an obstacle in the front left)
https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a176/fuhteng/Mt.jpg
A very pretty mountain side:
https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a176/fuhteng/Mts.jpg
Perhaps the best picture I have ever taken (IMHO), Mts. Tasmin and Cook.
https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a...traliaTrip.jpg
Enjoy guys.
Azi
nice, azi.
you refer to an obstacle on the one with the stream, but i dont see it or understand anything there as an obstacle. and what sort of enhancement did you have in mind? they look pretty good to me.
K.
:embarassed: Bad Azi! Bad!
Ahem...nevermind about that one... I have a great shot of the mountain that has a guy in the left foreground. I guess I had forgotten which picture exactly I had posted. Oops.
Anyway, it is pretty (I like blue) but is it possible to get the 'acutal' colors (the greys and greens) out from that shot too?
Thank you Kraellin for pointing that out...I feel silly.
Azi
P.S. Why is it mainly moderators who have posted recently? It just seems odd to me.
Nice pictures there, Azi.
They almost reminded me of.....home! ~:eek:
Nice pics!
Here's another one of mine, made of three pictures.. shame that my camera takes only 2 pics/sec
http://koti.mbnet.fi/makealho/meri/t...aashismall.jpg
And it's the Finnish archipelago, from Turku to Ahvenanmaa.
Absolutely beautiful pictures Azi. What kind of camera did you use? The clarity and colour are amazing.
The Mark, what do you mean when you say the picture was made from 3? Are you referring to the "three" birds?
Yes, two birds were photoshopped on top of one of the base pictures.
Thank you Gregoshi. Would you believe that I just used a (three years ago) Sony Cybershot 2.0 Megapixel camera. It was all of $200 back then.
And Viking, are you a kiwi? I had heard so often how beautiful NZ is. And it is true.
I daresay you could not even buy the little fella now. If you could, it might be $40 or $50. To be sure, I did increase the picture size, from my standard 640 x 480 to 1280 x 960, which helped. But beyond that...I think it was the beautiful country that helped my shots look good. Well that and the huge number of pictures I took. I had my laptop with me on that trip to NZ so I could take ~50 per day and then ship them to the computer and take 50 the next day too.
I used the digital camera for all but the mountain side, which was a disposable actually.
The following are more from my trip (and all with my little digital camera)
The outback of Australia after walking for a while
https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a...pourTrails.jpg
A so-called 'warm' glacier in NZ. The picture is little because I took a bunch that day
https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a...g/DSC00682.jpg
This is a shot over the back of the Nevis Bungee jump location. I highly recommend bungee jumping. Once. But hey, I did it ~:)
https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a...fNevissite.jpg
This shot is from N. Stradebroke Island (kind of a party island a ways away from Brisbane where I 'studied'). Are there any free programs I can use to get rid of the #*$@#*$ orange numbers on a variable surface? I had those on there becuase I did not realize that my camera automatically records the date too, but hidden as part of the camera file.
https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a...k4thebeach.jpg
But I do know how to do it for numbers that on a constant surface (such as black or grass)
https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a...alk3thesea.jpg
Thank you for the compliments guys. Enjoy.
Azi
re the mountain picture by azi: i did some work on this one per your enhancement request. i'll just post these and then comment.
http://mizus.com/kraellin/Mt-2-k-1c.jpg
http://mizus.com/kraellin/Mt-2-k-1a.jpg
http://mizus.com/kraellin/Image9.jpg
http://mizus.com/kraellin/Image7.jpg
in the first one, this one has two problems, the loss of detail a bit due to being in the shadows and your lower resolution camera, and, it changes the picture. the foreground being now in light draws attention away from the mountain top in the background, which in my opinion, is the biggest draw to this image.
in the 2nd one, i subdued the lighting a bit more than the first one and i think it's better. but it still has some of the same problems as the first one.
so, in the third, i changed things a bit. i re-cropped the picture to highlight the mountains in the background and did no lightening of the foreground.
and per your last request on the beach photo and the numbers, yes, you can remove these fairly easily with the clone tool in psp, or the rubber stamp/clone in photoshop. if you dont want to invest in either of those for now, try 'The Gimp' or 'Gimpshop'.
and again, nice pics!
K.
No, I`m a Norwegian viking. It`s just that NZ(some parts of it at least) reminds me incredibly much of Norway; even though it`s on the opposite side of the world. That`s cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azi Tohak
Thank you very much Kraellin. You are right, the main draw in the mountain peak so the second of the modified ones does look better.
And I will have to check that out for the #*$ orange letters. Boy did I feel silly when I realized I did not need to have it on to date my pics....
You do great work. Thank you ~:)
Azi
thank you :) and you're welcome :)
K.
hey azi, i'm sure krae did a better job, but i had already done these last night, so what the heck.
i tried to 'enhance' two of your NZ pics above with gimpshop. like krae, i croped your mt. cook pic, but only a little. it's fairly simple and fun to do this minor stuff i'm doing with gimpshop, btw.
https://img311.imageshack.us/img311/...edit0xy0me.jpg
https://img311.imageshack.us/img311/...edit7ps1vm.jpg
BJ,
on your first one, i think you got a better cast to the foreground than i did, but you missed one tiny edge on the right going up that foreground hill. trust me, that's nitpicking. it looks great.
and on the 2nd one, very well done! nice vibrant colors and contrasts!
K.
hey thanks krae! it's weird the first pic looked better to me before than it does now. i guess it was a lot brighter in my computer room earlier. now the foreground in that pic looks a little too bright to me, oh well. btw, could you point out the edge you are talking about, i can't see it. :embarassed:
thanks again. i'm still trying to figure out how to duplicate your retouch of that model pic.. dumb neat-image isn't free. :angry:
Souvenirs!
Just got back from an overnighter in Ottawa, Canada's capital. Gorgeous city. Worst and most expensive parking on Earth. Hit a few museums, had a great meal at a Scottish pub, and almost pissed my pants and broke down and cried when I came face to face with a Lancaster bomber at the National Aviation Museum. I got goose bumps and my knees went weak. If I was ever to come home to triplets, it would be nearly the same reaction.
What did I bring home?
These!
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v.../ottawa035.jpg
A bottle of Booker's Best. 126 proof straight keg bourbon. $80 a bottle and worth twice the price. The Axe is a Gransfors Small Forest Axe. Highest quality steel, razor sharp. can't wait to take this little sweetie to work tomorrow. ~D
Not sure when I'll open the whisky. Soon probably.
Try not to piss your pants, especially after drinking a shot and going to cut trees. ~D
BJ,
well, it's nitpicking at its highest. the line i'm talking about is a narrow whiteish line between the sky and the hill on the right, top half. most folks would look at it and think it was just a glow line. in fact, it may be, and i may be all wet :)
it's a nice job.
also, realize that in those two 'enhancements' of mine on the mountain scene, i was overdoing it on purpose to bring out the foreground. i think it looks better subdued and cropped a bit.
K.
I could get used to this guys...I provide the pics...you make them look as good as they do in my memories (:
And I do have 1100 from that trip... ~;)
Nah, I'll only post the best.
But what exactly do you do Beirut that you need whiskey and an axe? And is it fun? Sounds like it could be....
Azi
During the daytime I kill trees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azi Tohak
At night I drink the whisky.
Is it fun? 50/50 on the trees. 100% on the whisky. ~:cheers:
the following two pictures are not meant as corrections at all. they are simply different effects applied to an already gorgeous picture just for the sake of fun and having a different look at things.
http://mizus.com/kraellin/Image20.jpg
http://mizus.com/kraellin/Image25.jpg
K.
Sorry nm
This is fun. I take good pictures. Kraellin makes them look even better. With your software Kraellin, is it hard to do this stuff?
Since we know he is an expert at enhancing what is already there...I wonder if he can get rid of a certain doofus ruining what should be a great picture...
https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a...SeeIamhere.jpg
I think that would be tough. You've no clue what is behind me...err...the doofus...doh...
This one might be easier since the person ruining the shot is in the dark but...
https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a...Walk5power.jpg
Maybe yes, maybe no.
Personally, I really like this one too...but is there anyway to increase the sharpness? I know it is little (taken at 640 x 480) but still...with the camera being confused, it seems to me it is a little fuzzy. It seems to me the rays should be, but I don't know about the rocks and trees.
https://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a.../Walk7rays.jpg
This is cool. I knew I should have checked this thread out earlier...
Azi
well, i have no idea what to do with that last pic, but i tried my hand at the first two, just for skits and wiggles, so to speak.
https://img117.imageshack.us/img117/...anbeach1hx.jpg
https://img117.imageshack.us/img117/...eansurf3mp.jpg
"He tasks me!"
this what you had in mind?
http://mizus.com/kraellin/Seelamhere-1-k-1.jpghttp://mizus.com/kraellin/Seelamhere-1-k-1.jpghttp://mizus.com/kraellin/Seeamhere-1-k-1.jpg
K.
took out the person, the sign and the date stamp :)
http://mizus.com/kraellin/Walk-1-k-1.jpg
K.
nice BJ!
oh, and you can get the free Neat Image here: http://www.neatimage.com/download.html
K.
well thanks, but you did a better job. i guess that's to be expected. ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraellin
i think that's the neatimage demo i downloaded.. but doesn't it output watermarked images?
You are one pissed off god. ~D ~;) :laugh:
BJ,
thanks :)
but dont put yourself down. i go on that retouchpro site and some of the folks there make me look like a stick figure creator :)
no, no watermark. it's a freebie if you only use it for non-commercial purposes. the pro version is the one they charge you for.
K.
That's what I thought... ~D :laugh4:
http://www.dimeolas.com/0409d.jpg
Havent been on here in a long time.....here is something I thought you might like.....Poser6.
Dimeolas
Ooooh, she can kill me any time she likes. :evilgrin: