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Merry Christmas to all of you! I wish you a peaceful time!
I know that there are many mails unanswered, I will reply as soon as possible.
To the Czar: Do not give up hope. I guess there will be a new leader in Russia and it might be you :2thumbsup:
Let's set up deadline to January 10th. Is this alright?
Franconicus
Merry X-mas.
My hope is imortal. ;)
(I just need lil more info, if not, just say the magic words - "Give me your orders", and I'll send you a pack of my actions for taking the throne and improving the situation in Russia. Untill then, I'll patiently wait :E)
Merry Christmas everyone!
The Sejm announces the nomination of Nicholas as King of Poland, Defender of the Polish Rights and Protector of the Polish Provinces.
He will be crowned as soon as he swears on the constitution and signs the bill of rights.
I've called upon the Concert of Europe before, as have others, and no answer came. It is clear that the Concert as a tribunal and an international tribune is dead and buried.
The idea behind it, however, is very much alive. I therefore once again emplore you, my fellow heads of states, to spare the world from needles bloodshed and misguided thinking.
As one might remember Egyptian forces under the command of my son put down a revolt on Crete which was then part of the Ottoman empire. Later my son was appointed as governor of Crete. Now when Egypt declared itself independent, so too changed Crete from Ottoman territory to Egyptian territory.
I'm, however, not interested in oppressing a populace so clearly desiring freedom. I therefor proposed a very benificial deal. Crete can have it's freedom as long as it allies itself with Egypt. It can have souvereinity over itself ànd support from a regional power inexchange for what amounts to a little more than a trade agreement.
Still these shortsighted excuses for resistance leaders plainly refuse to even consider it. They choose to defy me and prolong unnecessary aggression.
I know some of you had stakes in the Greek revolts against the ottomans. Some may even have aided the rebels. The cards lay totally different know and the goals some of you set in the Peleponesos have already come to fruitation or will come to fruitation with my proposal to the Cretans.
I therefore urge you, my fellow heads of state, to openly order the Cretan resistance to agree to my deal or at least refrain from supporting the cretan resistance in any way.
If there is a time for the powers to once again shape the world, let it start now. Letting this opportunity slip by may result in permanently losing the authority the Concert of Europe once might had.
Muhamed Ali
Ruler of Egypt
protector of Crete
From the French Court:
The Ruler of Egypt is correct. I believe we should start supporting nations like his, or Crete, and not making excuses. France will proundly be the first one to give her public support of this action to both Egypt and Crete. I will also trade with the Creteans if they wish to.
Charles X, King of France.
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Originally Posted by Franconicus
I can't promise I will be ready with my decisions until 19th... RL :sigh: :shame:
I send in my orders today, then I'll update my orders as needed (IF needed) until Stephen gets his orders in on the 14th.
Waiting for your moves, gentlemen!
Should I send my moves too? xD
Muhamed Ali,
Ruler of Egypt,
We appreciate that you are taking steps to soothe any tension within the Near East. We are sure your intentions are nothing but good will.
After the devastating Napoleonic Wars, we were under the impression that the Concert of Europe, this powerful 'tribunal', was set up to insure that peace reigned within Europe. We are of the opinion that the concert of Europe did not hold its power within the laws it made, but instead within the military and economic powers its members held. Obviously, that power is still very real today.
As a member of the Concert of Europe, I am of no obligation to follow the lead of other members, and we will have to refuse your 'crusade' to give independance to Crete. They are a part of your country, and if not, then they are to be of a Greek Republic or Ottoman Empire. We see they have no right to independance.
I must clearly state, we mean this as respectfully as internationally possible.
Sincrely,
King William,
King of the Netherlands and Belgium, Duke of Luxembourg and Limburg, King of the Dutch Colonial Empire,
OOC: Orders have been sent in.
Waiting for answers, sir! ~:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Franconicus
King William,
You made the correct analysis of the power of the Concert. Don't, however, think that you can lecture me on this subject. I'm no fool when it comes to politics. You may have a point that the power of the Concert was always that of its members but without the need or the will for unilateral diplomacy, the situation is no different than when Napoleon ravaged Europe. Sure the power, originating from the different members, is still very real, it's effectiveness is not. The little skirmish between the Brits and the Franco-Ottoman forces only proves the uselessness and danger of unilateral thinking.
I imagine you must have been facing quite the dilema when contemplating whether or not to support a free Crete. You're populace would've welcomed the end of the Islamic oppression on christian people. The Brits, your close allies, were campaigning to free all the Greeks. On the other hand, you too have a religious and regional minority. Condoning the independence of of crete might have put ideas in peoples heads. Was it that idea that won? Did you fear that if the Belgians rose up against you violently, your army might not last a week?
I wonder if you would wish for an effective Concert of Europe then?
I must also clearly state, we mean this as respectfully as internationally possible.
Muhamed Ali,
Ruler of Egypt,
Das Konzert Europas ist nicht tod. Man kann der Frieden im Mittelmeer analysieren und das sehen.
(The Concert is not dead. This can be easily noticed when the peace in Mediterranean is analyzed.)
Fuerst von Metternich
Muhamed Ali,
I am not underestimating your skill as a political leader, I, and Europe, have seen how you have peacefully withdrawn Egypt from the Empire and made it independant. As Heer von Metternich pointed out, with the latest problem to arise within Europe, it was put down before any significent violence could have erupted. This was achieved by the alliance of powerful Concert members.
There is no threat of uprising within Belgium. It is now the second state within the Dutch Empire. Even if certain people make trouble within Belgium, this can be supressed within a week of the event. It is not within the Netherlands which trouble would arise, even if such a small thing came about.
For now, the Netherlands will not be recognizing the international claims of the country of Crete.
Sincerely,
King William,
If a sizable amount of European nations oppose the independence of Crete than I'll concede. This unanimity doesn't seem to be the case and I doubt there will be many times that unanimity will be achieved. This reason in itself is proof that the Concert of Europe has stopped functioning.
Fuerst von Metternich, you claim that the ending of the hostilities between Britain and the Franco-Ottoman alliance ended by the power of the Concert. There may have been some negotiations but I higly doubt you are as naïve as to think that the Concert had any influence what so ever. France and the Ottoman empire couldn't continue after the loss of their navies and Great Britain had enough troubles elsewhere to push any further. Where do you see any deviation from 18th century diplomacy? When did a large group of national representatives come together to decide the fate of all involved in the hostilities?
King William, I'm, as you might have concluded, a passionate man. I realise now that my outburst may have offended you. I gather from your reply that, despite my behaviour, you don't pose any ill will between us in the future. I thank you for that.
Agreed. Do you think the fellow nations of the Concert had any pressure over me? Yes they did, to a point. But I was forced into peace treaty due to lack of funds and such. Not the Concert.
I see no reason why my friends in Egpyt can not give Crete their Independence.
Charles X, King of France.
Sirs,
While England has had issues within the Concert, I feel we must speak up in its favour. With the recent war within the Mediterrean while the sucesses of my navy greatly assisted in the resolution of the dispute, it was the good offices of Austria as a broker which brought the war to a swift end - and behind that treaty was the inherent wish for peace and the status quo that is at the heart of the Concert. Individual nations within the Concert have differing views about a range of subjects, but the purpose of the Concert is to ensure peace across Europe - something which, on the whole, has occured since its inception. We may bicker and fight occasional as all families do, but in the end it is the greater good that prevails.
Lord Canning
My dear sirs,Quote:
Originally Posted by King Kurt
Allow me to state my counterarguments.
Firstly, don't be falsly modest. It was your decisive victory at Gibraltar that forced a truce on your aggressors not the verbal disaprovement of other European nations. We all know how far apart words and actions can be.
Secondly, as you say Austria brokered the truce not Austria as the representative of the Concert. Austria may have taken that task upon itself but it was, as far as I know, not mandated to do so by any other member of the Concert. As such I don't see how the Concert had anything to do with it.
Thirdly, 'the inherent wish for peace and the status quo', as you call it, is not the product of the Concert. It's the goal that birthed the Concert. A goal that most, if not all, European Nations fostered after the tyrant was defeated. I have seen the Concert do little to facilitate this goal these last years as an institution. You may argue that members, on their own, have facilitated peace and the status quo but I'm than left to wonder the difference to a situation without the Concert of Europe.
Lastly, the Concert hasn't once come to a conclusion, only a few rare opinions from one or two members. Our 'family' is a run-down tavern where once in a while a patron speaks up while the rest keep their heads down.
The devastation of Europe lies freshly in our memories. Those memories of themselves ensure peace for now. The concert in its current form will be powerless when those memories start to fade.
PRUSSIA IS STILL MISSING!
OOC: Well, for your information... I decided to change my username with a more artistic pseudonym... :beam: With it Prince von Metternich sends a warning to all those who dare to foment unrest in Austria or in its allies... The medicine for our allies will be a poison for our enemies!
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
OOC2: I hope we can expect an update soon (though it is possible I may be not very present during the next week)
I am curious why we can not draft these big 500,000 man armies like Napolean did?
First of all, Napoleon never commanded an army of 500,000 in the field. Quite possibly the Grand Armee reached those sorts of numbers in all theatres but never on say one campaign. More typical would be say Waterloo with an army of about 100,000 - and that would be big. Logistically, especially with an army based on horse transport, wagons etc, you can't have it too big as you can not get the fodder to feed the horses which you neeed to supply the men.Quote:
Originally Posted by King Jan III Sobieski
Also the armies of the Empire were not just Frenchmen - they were recruited from Poland to Spain - the army that went into Russia was from right across Europe - there was even a regiment made up from Spanish prisoners of war.
Finally it was not the tax revenue of France that supported the Empire's armies, it was that of the Empire itself - Spain, Italy, the low countries, most of Germany, Poland etc - so more cash - bigger army. European armies of this period - 1815 - 1850 were relatively small - certainly under 100,000 unless you had a lot of area such as Austria or Russia - the shattered economy of Europe could bear no more.
And you do not have general conscription!Quote:
Originally Posted by King Jan III Sobieski
Maybe you should train first with your small army, before you try to command the Grande Armee :laugh4:
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Originally Posted by Franconicus
:laugh4::laugh4: Funny!
When will the chapter be up anyhow?
Here it is:Quote:
Originally Posted by King Jan III Sobieski
Chapter 11 – June 1826 to May 1827
June
Fürst von Metternich mediates between England and France. France, obviously helpless against the British rule of the seas, accepts to give back Malta, to demilitarize Toulon and to pay 3.5 million. France also agrees to sever trade with the US and stop help for the Sultan. In return, Britain waives any claim on French territory and agrees not to support the Spanish army.
July
Left alone without ally and fleet, the Ottoman Sultan has to ask for peace, too. Lord Canning dictates the terms of the peace treaty:
The Ottoman troops at Malta surrender immediately, the trade between the Turks and America is stopped and the Turks have to pay 3.5 million talers to London. Furthermore, the Sultan has to swallow another bitter bill. He has to give extraordinary rights to the Greek population, like involvement of the Greek in the government and equal treatment of Christianity and Islam on the peninsula. A problem still unsolved is the situation of the ten thousands of Ottoman soldiers on the Iberian Peninsula.
The peace between the three Empires changes the situation of the remaining war, the war between Spain and France. The Spanish Republicans are badly disappointed by being left alone by the English. At least they are no longer threatened by the Ottoman troops.
Although there is peace now in almost the whole Mediterranean Sea and hopefully trade in this region will soon recover, many English are a bit disappointed that England was not able to gain more influence in the Eastern Med. Nevertheless, people are glad that war is over and hope that the war in America will come to an end, too.
August
The Ottoman expedition corps gathers west of Valencia and waits there to for an opportunity to sail home. The French general persuades the Turks to give their artillery and heavy siege equipment to the French. In return he promises to supply them with food and a passage to Turkey.
Although the Turkish commander receives warnings from the Spaniards, the Turks decamp and march to a bay south of Valencia, where they are supposed to meet a French fleet, which should pick them up.
Waiting two weeks for the French ships without provisions, the Turks find themselves surrounded by the French 10th Light Regiment and the 5th Hussars and the 2nd Dragoons. Three French frigates appear in the morning and begin to shoot at the Turkish camps. French infantry and artillery joins in and thousands of Turks lie dead or wounded on the ground before the rest is able to get into battle formation. Although superior in numbers, the Turks do not stand a chance, as they lay on open ground without cover or cannons, while the French keep on firing from the surrounding hills.
The Ottoman commander realizes that it is impossible to stand the ground. He drives his soldiers against the hills. Although they suffer high casualties, the Turks manage to take the hills and to assault two French batteries. The Turkish commander is shot in the head and when the French cavalry execute a counter-charge, the Turkish breakthrough turns into a headless flight. The French infantry clears the beach. In this massacre, the French kill more than 20,000 of the former allies. About 4,000 Turks escape and join the Spaniards.
At Vienna, the Rothschilds open the biggest private bank house of Europe.
The telegraph line is opened between Vienna and Prague.
Crete: The situation for the Egyptian is continuously getting worse. After the withdraw of the Ottoman soldiers and officers from the administration, Egyptian troops are not able to control the land. Instead, they try to defend themselves in the coastal cities. The Greek rebels control the mountains and the road along the coast. The Egyptians have to use ships to connect their garrisons.
September
The French commander at Spain waits for fresh troops from the north. Finally the 8th Regiment, consisting of Swiss mercenaries, arrives. Now the French army marches against Cadiz and surround the town in November. The three French frigates try to attack the harbor of Cadiz, but they are intercepted by the Spanish fleet and rapidly sunk.
Unlike at Spain, the Ottoman troops from Malta hand their positions to the English and are shipped home without any accident. The last French and Turkish troops leave the island. The English begin immediately to repair the harbor and the fortifications.
At Northern America, the capitol of Canada surrenders. Thousand of Canadians become prisoners of war, along with them the British Military Governor. The remaining troops of the Empire capitulate three days later and American soldiers occupy the eastern coast.
Crete rebels assault Rethymnon and occupy it for four days. They kill the garrison and all Muslim citizens.
October
The city of Athens is currently the refugee of the Ottoman fleet. Even after the defeat at the Battle of Gibraltar, there are still several ships-of-the-line and many small vessels. Inside the town there is only a small garrison of about 100 soldiers plus some supply units and a military hospital. During the war, the Ottoman fortified the harbors, but now the fortifications are only poorly manned.
In the beginning of October, a convoy of French transport ships appears in front of Athens. The Ottoman Admiral prepares his ships to welcome the French, which he thinks are still friends. The French ships enter the military harbor Zea and head straight to the sol. While the Ottomans fire salutes, French soldiers of the 57th “The Terrible” Line Regiment leave the French ships and assault the Ottoman ships. Soon there is tough close combat on the ships. It takes a moment until the Turks realize what is going on. The French soldiers get control over the flagship. Smaller Turkish ships fire at the French transport ships and sink them. Ottoman sailors from other ships try to assault the flagship, while a battery fires from the shore and hits French and Ottoman ships. The harbor sinks into a chaos of fire, smoke and noise. The French seize some more ships, but the Ottoman receive constantly reinforcements from the town. Outside of the harbor, a British squad appears, but the British sailors are only watching the scene without interfering.
General Oudinot breaks up the fight and tries to leave the harbor with the sized ships, but they have to find out that the exit is blocked by chains. The French infantries are trapped and drop like flies. They cannot break through the gate and Oudinot decides to leave the ships and to fight the way through the town. Oudinot is killed by a bullet. About 400 reach the commercial harbor and seize some small ships. Still under constant musket fire, they leave the harbor. In the meanwhile, several smaller Ottoman warships left Zea and are now hunting the fleeing French. Only 136 French infantries make it to the English fleet, the rest of the regiment formerly known as the “Terrible” one.
France disbands more than 20,000 troops. The government gives the men medals and promises them to find new jobs, but reality is different. When the men return home, they find it impossible to get a job. Especially in the south, the economic situation is disastrous. Many emigrate to Switzerland, Northern Italy or Southern Germany where they hope to find a living. The rest is just travelling around, hoping to make some talers to get through the day.
The King of France raises the taxes to cover the expenses for war and the peace treaty with England.
France also starts building a series of small fortress on the border with the Dutch.
At Prussia, the conflict about the imprisoned Catholic bishop escalates. All Catholic priests preach against the Prussian King. They blame him for being King only for the Protestant and tell the people that he is not the chosen one.
They call all Catholics not to support his reign any longer.
November
The Ottoman is bankrupt. The government stops the payment to the English and also postpones the pay of soldiers and officers.
Thousands of Greek civilians, among them hundred of priests of the Orthodox Church, are imprisoned by the Turkish government. They are blamed for high treason.
The Porte increases the strength of her Palestine Army.
The government of the Netherland decides to fortify the cities of Luxembourg, Mons, Brussels and Hainaut. Construction work begins immediately, with a priority for the fortresses along the border to France.
Nicholas appeals to the common people of Russia to support him. They do not care much about his promises, but most of the peasant seem to accept him as the God send monarch. However, most of the Russian aristocrats are against him.
Egyptian soldiers surround a monastery and kill 43 Orthodox monchs.
December
The military governor of the Jerusalem proclaims the foundation of the Islamic Caliphate of the Levant. As justification he argues that the Sultan left the path of the true believers by allying with the French. Some very important Christian churches are burned down!
France is bankrupt! The bankers of France tell the French minister of finance, that they are no longer able to give more money.
The government stops the building of the fortresses and the payment for the administration and raises the taxes once more. One of the most influent bankers of France, Simon de Montagne, is murdered in the streets of Paris. The government blames English spies for the murder of the Jewish banker.
The Parisian artisans go on strike to protest against the high taxes on food. Thousand of unemployed former soldiers come into the capitol and join the protests.
The bankruptcy of France and the Ottoman Empire as well as chaotic situation at Russia makes the stock markets all over Europe fall. The markets at Berlin and Vienna have to be closed for two weeks. At Berlin there are furious demonstrations of people that lost all of their fortune. The new middle class sees itself threatened by the financial and economic crisis and blames the King for not protecting Prussian interests. Especially the ruin of the Prussian enterprises at Turkey lowers the trust in the government.
At Spain, the French troops keep on besieging the Republicans. They try to silence the guns of the work by a powerful artillery-fire and start to build fascines and short ladders to enable the soldiers to pass the ditch and
mount the parapet. However, food is getting tight. French frigates try to block the harbor, but the Spanish navy, led by the admiral’s ship ‘Constitution’ sallies and sinks the French ships. Cadiz is still supplied by the sea by ships mainly from Italy.
End of the year, the 8th Swiss Regiment, 2,008 men under the command of General Conrad Rudolph, leaves her positions and marches eastwards to raid the cost. They send a message to the French commander telling him that they will not serve France if they do not get paid and will now make their own war. The French general sends three other regiments and his cavalry to catch them and in a wild combat, the Swiss regiment is erased.
The French General is concerned for he wonders how long he will be able to besiege Cadiz
The American President Adams announces the building of a one hundred new military ships. The U.S. Navy, he says, will then force the British to peace.
January:
At New Year’s Day, Nicolas is crowned as new King of the Poles. He accepted a constitution that gave the Polish aristocracy the rights to pass laws and he promised to replace Russian officers from the army and administration. He also swears that he will defend and protect all Polish lands, which may bring him into conflict with Prussia and Austria.
A Dutch squadron bombards and destroys the city on Zanzibar, the island that became the centre of slave trade in the Indian Ocean.
Another Dutch squad appears in front of Cadiz and blocks the harbor. Dutch ships supply the French troops.
The commander of the Spanish defenders deserts and changes sides. Although the Spaniards continue to fight, the French have now all plans of the defenses.
At South Africa, citizens with Dutch origin protest against the British government.
Egyptian forces march south along the river Nil. They defeat a Sudanese army and occupy several towns.
Egyptian diplomats form a military and trade alliance with Libyan and Algerian tribes.
February
The new Egyptian government tries to reform the country. Advisors from France and England drill the navy and army. There will no longer be forced recruitment, but the recruits will be attracted by fair payment. This, of course, makes the expenses rise.
The country also tries to build up a strong textile industry with power looms imported from France. The government also wants to build a railroad, but cannot find expert in her country.
More and more people from all over the country come to Paris. They want to express their anger about the King. The garrison of the capital remains passive and the protestors now control the city. The King spends his days at Versailles together with his advisors, protected by his guard of foreign mercenaries.
All over Europe, food production cannot keep up with the growth of population. Therefore the price for food is going up.
The Netherlands are less affected from the financial collapse of France than expected. Stock rate fall less than at Prussia, but the trade with France and Prussia is reduced. Especially machines and machined good are hard to sell.
At Vienna, the stock rates fall, too. Papers loose more than 50 % within only few days. The Rothschild Bank buys and stabilizes the market of Vienna.
March
There are protests against the Ottoman government at Istanbul.
The Russian troops leave Poland and march towards Kiev. Here, the garrison joins them. Nicholas signs a treaty with the Shah of Persia, giving away the Caucasian provinces to Persia. Then he turns northwards with his troops. At Smolensk he finally meets the army of the rebels. Although outnumbered. he decides to attack. "Today, I will become Czar or die!" he tells his soldiers. He leads the charge of the cavalry. Against the will of their officers, the soldiers of the rebels turn around and follow his banner. Soon the rebels have to surrender and the way to Petersburg is open for the Czar.
The bishops of the Catholic south blame the Dutch government for making policy only for the Protestant north. They advice Catholic people neither to work for the government nor to serve in the armed forces.
The French King signs a law that forbids the work of children.
April
A combined expedition of French and Egyptian forces reaches the western coast of South Africa. Although they see English ships along the coast, the French immediately land and found a camp. The Egyptians hesitate, but finally they follow. The expedition begins to build a base and to fortify it. Soon, the forces have contact with a British patrol, which, however, disappears immediately. The French forces are about 5,000 men under the command of General Francois Nicoms and General Benoit Haxo along with 500 engineers, 800 civilians and 150 merchants. The Egyptian forces are about the same size.
After several months, the defenders of Cadiz give up. They set the imprisoned King free . this is the end of the Spanish republic. The French army loots Cadiz and leaves back for France. Only the regiment of Spanish royalists stays.
The Spanish King begins to build up his rule again by arresting and punishing all rebels. Thousands are arrested, hundreds are sent to death.
Austria passes a law to introduce compulsory military service. All men have to serve for three years. Volunteers, who are able to study or pass a test, may serve only for one year. They have to pay for their equipment, get special military education and leave as officers of the reserve.
The Landwehr, all those that passed their three years, form now a military reserve until the age of 45. They will have training every third year.
May
Nicolas reaches Petersburg and crowns himself as Emperor of Russia, again.
Metternich visits Naples to discuss the terms of an Austria withdraw.
England
Although the trade in the Med is open again and the Ottoman/French ambitions are ruined, there is still enough to do: America, South Africa, France, Economy?
Netherlands
You receive a message from the Indian Ocean, reporting that Zanzibar’s fortifications are destroyed, its ships sunk. Some hundred infantries would be able to take the island.
Prussia
You are losing the love and support of your people. Your economy is weakened and your political influence seems to be fading away.
Maybe you should also watch closely the situation at Poland, The new “King of Poland” made a lot of concessions to the nationalists. This may cause more trouble in your provinces!
Austria
France is at the dawn of a new revolution. The Ottoman Empire struggles to survive. New threats, but also opportunities.
You also should watch the economy. Although Austria is rather strong, other countries may fall into chaos and pull you into trouble.
Bavaria proposes a meeting to discuss the situation at France, the Balkans and Palestine.
France
You are broke and your country is at the edge of a new revolution. The army from Spain returns and waits for reward. Trade is low, tax income tiny and the Provence suffers from the damage from the last war.
Russia
Congratulation! You are now King of Poland and Czar of Russia.
How do you want to rule the countries? How strong to you want to have your army / navy? What to do with the supporters of the rebels?
The Poles urge you to give those provinces of Poland that used to be Polish, back to Poland.
The Turks are extremely week. This may lead to trouble on the Balkans. What do you intend to do?
As Czar, you are the defender of the church. The Orthodox Church urges you to protect the Christians at Levant!
Ottoman Empire
Your situation is dangerous. Your run out of cash, the church begins to turn against you, your army is unreliable and Egypt, Crete and Levant split off.
How do you want to keep control in your countries? How do you want to pay the Brits? What do you do with rebellion of Levant? Right now, your country is extremely weak. Other countries may take advantage of this.
Egypt
How do you deal with your new neighbor of Levant?
The frigate from America never reached one of your ports, although the American pretend that they sent it!
Your engineers do not seem to be able to build a railroad or locomotive or something like that!
Wow, wall of text.
Franc. thanks for your ongoing effort to keep this IH alive.
From the French Court:
I am very sicken by the loss of life of my people. I am at a loss of words.
Charles X, King of France.
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Originally Posted by King Jan III Sobieski
As am I byt the lose of mine.
As Lord Canning can no doubt see, I am not going to be able to pay him back. Perhaps we can work out some other deal? One involving land perhaps?
From the French Court:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cultured Drizzt fan
Then France wants in on the deal to. After all, you bankrupt my nations by telling me lies saying I would get ahead by fighting England. I just killed 20,000 of your troops, and I still can kill more if I wanted to.
Perhaps you could give up Greece to England and France? England gets the land and I get a military/trade port there or vice versa?
Charles X, King of France.