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I put together the family tree and decided to label a few guys. I put a little
too much info for some guys, but here is the Antigonid family tree in the year
197BC. I've numbered a few important guys that I've
mentioned throughout the AAR and will describe them a bit.
I'll start with the most important family then go to the side families:
In the center we have Antigonos Gonatas (1) and his family. Grandson of Antigonos
Monophthalmus, Antigonos Gonatas united the Hellenes and began the campaigns against the
Ptolemaioi. His first born son, Alkyoneus (2) shared the throne with his brother after the
death of Antigonos, but died himself in the Pontic War. Perseus (3) and Chrysoloras (4)
did not inheret the throne, but instead dedicated their lives administering Makedonia and
working the Hellenes into Arche Makedonia. With no sons, Perseus and Chrysoloras are the end
of Alkyoneus' line.
Antigonos' second son, Demetrios (5) was a great general when he first came to share the
throne. When his brother died, he came to the throne and lead Arche Makedonia to glory. Almost
single-handedly defeating the Ptolemaioi, Demetrios shifted his attension to Kart-Hadast and
Roma. Still planning more conquests, Demetrios died in Massalia and passes the throne to his
son. Named for the instructor of Alexandros, Aristotelis (6) came to be a great general,
conquering the Levant at the end of the Aigyptos Wars. When his father dies, he comes to
inheirit the throne of Makedonia. With troubles in the east, Aristotelis prepares to realize his dream
of reuniting Alexandros' Empire.
Aristotelis is the only son of Demetrios and has but two sons himself. Neokles (7) witness
to Demetrios' death leads the western army, while Bykoli (8) leads the new Syrian army at
his father's orders.
Finally, there is the last son of Antigonos, Euboulides (9). Euboulides spent his early life
administering Makedonia and Epieros while his father and brothers did greater things. When his
eldest brother, Alkyoneus died in the Pontic War, Euboulides took command of his army and
defeated the last of the Pontic kings. When the First Armenian War started, Euboulides lead the
main attacks against the Hai and took several territories from them. Recently, Euboulides
acquired Bosphoria for Arche Makedonia. His son-in-law, Lysippos, now leads the war in the
Second Armenian War. Due to Euboulides' brothers' families inability to have sons, Euboulides'
line may someday rule the Arche...
To the left we have Krateros (10), elder brother of Antigonos. His son, Alexandros (11)
, conqueror of Illyria. Most of his family administered Illyria, but Nepos (12) leads the
invasion of northern Italia with his sons. First born son, Neikolaos (13) led a Celtic army to
victories in Gaul against the Romani. Second son, Gelon (14) takes control of northern
Italia. And third son, Pyrrhos the Crippled (15) conquers most of Italia and continues to
defeat the Romani.
To the far right, there is Kalos (16), younger brother of Antigonos. After Kalos' failed attempt
to take Pergamon, his family has not had very much military activity. His descendants now
administer Anatolia, while his in-laws are sent wherever they are needed across the Arche.
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wow nicely done MAA! I want to do that for my campaign. How did you get the whole family tree in one picture where you can view without scrolling back and forth?
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It's actually 14 or 15 pictures that I stuck together (thus all the stupid, repeating "Family Tree"s across the top).
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Adjust your monitor settings Centurio! (I take it you have a CRT monitor? My LCD one shows the picture just fine: nice metallic reflections and glints, grass etc. Looks like I might have taken that shot. :beam:)
Yes I have a CRT monitor. I made the settings indeed quite dark. But I'm quite content with it, I chose lightning file number 3 instead of adjusting the monitor settings.~:)
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Chapter 34 : Eastern Expansion
The Fall of Hayasdan
As the winter of 198BC hits, the Romani end their campaigning season and withdraw back to Latium:
https://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3443/maa2004my5.png
With fresh Sikilian reinforcements to garrison the huge city of Capua, Pyrrhos takes the initiative the next spring. Gathering his entire army, Pyrrhos marches into Latium, raiding any Romani allies he finds along the way, and besieges the city of Roma itself:
https://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6619/maa2005wh0.png
The spring of 197BC also sees the Makedonike campaign in Armenia. Having campaigned in Iberia, Lysippos manages to corner Bagrat Yervanduni, king of Hayasdan in the small city of Mtskheta, along the Kyros River. Bagrat is well prepared, though, and can stand a lengthy siege. Rather than risk Hai reinforcement from their allies to the east, Lysippos decides to attack the city:
https://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5950/maa2006ab4.png
Only Bagrat Yervanduni, his elite cataphracts, and a few elite infantry hold the city. With minor defenses, it is an easy task for the Peltastai to break down the walls:
https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/843/maa2007ld5.png
At first, the Hai infantry move to defend the walls, but Lysippos moves his archers near the walls. The archers hold their fire at first, but at Lysippos' command they open fire. The Hai elites attempt to flee, but all those who moved to defend the breach end the day in Hades:
https://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2205/maa2008og2.png
With the walls taken, Lysippos moves his phalangitai into the city. Taking their time, they slowly march down the streets, eventually surrounding the city center. Rather than let the noose tighten around his neck, King Bagrat charges out to confront the phalangitai on his own terms:
https://img530.imageshack.us/img530/2510/maa2009xa7.png
The heavy Haikakan cataphracts are only halted for a moment. Soon, King Bagrat leads his men in breaking through the pikes and attack the phalangitai directly:
https://img530.imageshack.us/img530/7626/maa2010kc4.png
As the phalangitai slowly get out-matched, more phalangitai units move to surround the Haikakan king and attack him from multiple sides:
https://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3258/maa2011rr4.png
As the rest of the Makedonike army moves against the last of the infantry, King Bagrat manages to completely disrupt the phalangitai formation and break through them. Seeing the distress, a third unit of phalangitai move in to assist on the critical right flank:
https://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9223/maa2012qh4.png
Eventually, the formations of the phalangitai completely break down and Lysippos, who is leading from just behind the battle, orders his men to switch to their swords:
https://img176.imageshack.us/img176/2185/maa2013no5.png
Even though King Bagrat and his men killed many Makedones, the noose around his neck is finally tightened when his men begin to panic and try to flee. With nowhere to flee to, the surrounded cataphracts are slaughtered and Bagrat Yervanduni, King of Hayasdan falls dead in the streets of Mtskheta.
With their king dead, the last of the Hai choose to stand to the last at the city center. Lysippos blocks all exits and has his archers, who are deployed all around the city, open fire on the city center:
https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6384/maa2016dv6.png
The last of the Hai eventually fall, dead or injured, and the city is taken, but with greater causualties than Lysippos had first assumed:
https://img186.imageshack.us/img186/4946/maa2017sw7.jpg
With the fall of Iberia and the Lake Van region, only the capital city of Armavir remains loyal to the dying Kingdom of Hayasdan. With many groups of spies and sabateurs in the city, the infrastructure and gateways of the city are already destroyed. Unable to attack the city himself, Lysippos orders the Kappadokians and Pontics to besiege the city:
https://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5558/maa2019fb4.png
The first to march forward are the Peltastai, who slowly move forward then charge as soon as the towers and wall defenders open fire on them. With most or the Haikakan soldiers on the walls, only a small unit of cavalry defend the gateway. After a short fight, the cavalry break and the the Peltastai take the gateway:
https://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6790/maa2020cn5.png
Haikakan reinforcements soon arrive from the walls and elsewhere in the city. As the Peltastai hold down the enemy, the phalangitai rush through the gateway and make their way into the city, past all the defenders.
To the north, the Kappadokian army charges another gateway:
https://img442.imageshack.us/img442/3909/maa2021lb5.png
This gateway, however is well defended and the Kappadokians are halted at the gate:
https://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7821/maa2022sg0.png
Eventually the Peltastai panic and flee from the city. By this time, however, the phalangitai have made their way deep into the city and have taken up a defensive possition. The wall defenders rush in to defend the city center, but are meet by a wall of spears:
https://img259.imageshack.us/img259/6667/maa2023vp6.png
As one flank holds down the infantry from the walls, the left flank turns to meet cavalry from the city center:
https://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2678/maa2024wz9.png
To the north, however, the Kappadocians continue to take losses and fail to take the gateway. They do, however, manage to tie down half the the defending force and prevent them from assisting their comrades with the phalangitai.
With the western gate undefended, the Pontic slingers take the oppertunity to take control of the walls. From their high possition, they open fire on any Haikakan soldiers that are stupid enough to get near them:
https://img185.imageshack.us/img185/4864/maa2026ye2.png
With the bulk of the phalangitai holding down the Haikakan infantry still, the left flank moves toward the city center to get into a better possition. Eventually, the Haikakan cavalry archers run out of arrows and charge their possition, but the phalangitai hold their ground:
https://img167.imageshack.us/img167/6103/maa2027wx3.png
Eventually, the Kappadokian army breaks and flees. Without support, the phalangitai and slingers withdraw as well and leave the Hai in control of the city. Though an official failure, the remaining Hai forces are reduced to a quarter of their strength:
https://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7306/maa2028mr9.jpg
A month later, the old veteran, Captain Aristokles, who had retaking the Van Lake region the previous autumn, marches his Thrakian army against the city of Armavir:
https://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1046/maa2029fu1.png
Once again, the gateway is easily taken, as the Thrakians cut the horses out from under the Hai:
https://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8571/maa2030pe1.png
The Thrakians then take the walls and kill the few men left defending them:
https://img167.imageshack.us/img167/9429/maa2031ra7.png
To the south, the steppe cavalry manages to take up possition on a hill that gives them the range to attack the wall defenders, on the far side of the city:
https://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6682/maa2032sm4.png
With the walls taken, Captain Aristokles marches his men to the city center, where the Getic spearmen pin down the Haikakan infantry:
https://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6409/maa2033mo3.png
The Haikakan cavalry attempt to attack the flank of the spearmen, but are quickly outmanuevered by the Thrakians:
https://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3506/maa2034hg0.png
With the Thrakians in possition, most of the Getic soldiers break formation and surround the enemy cavalry:
https://img185.imageshack.us/img185/350/maa2035po1.png
The Thrakians cut through the enemy as if it were nothing, and soon only a few elites remain fighting:
https://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4792/maa2036uf4.png
Finally, the last enemy falls and Captain Aristokles and the Thrakians take the city:
https://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7955/maa2037on0.png
[Captain Aristokles, himself, on the right.]
Captain Aristokles takes many losses amoungst the Thrakians, but the Getic spearmen, and various cavalry get through the battle with very few losses:
https://img205.imageshack.us/img205/3159/maa2038wn5.jpg
As the battle comes to a close, the people of the city, themselves, begin to take up arms against the Thrakians. Before anything can be done, another battle begins. In the end many Hai civilians die and Captain Aristokles orders many more gathered to be sold as slaves elsewhere in Arche Makedonia:
https://img265.imageshack.us/img265/794/maa2039sb7.jpg
With the fall of Iberia and Armavir, the last of those loyal to the Kingdom of Hayasdan are brought into Arche Makedonia. Aristotelis is happy to hear that the kingdom that had caused so much trouble has finally passed from this world and joined those like the Ptolemaioi and the Kingdom of Pontos:
https://img169.imageshack.us/img169/9435/maa2044mi7.png
As for Captain Aristokles and his men, Aristotelis grants them land near Lake Van, where they had spent most of their military career. This region, to the south, is on much friendlier terms with Arche Makedonia due to the prior occupation and due to their relationship with the King of Sophene. Taking a wife from the city of Tushpa, the Thrakian commander, Aristokles ends his career with Arche Makedonia and settles down for his old age:
https://img169.imageshack.us/img169/8841/maa2040ot2.jpg
Far south of their, Makedonike intel finds that the Sab'yn Kingdom has mobilized their entire military in an attempt to invade Seleukid Babylonia:
https://img265.imageshack.us/img265/3839/maa2041rj6.png
With a core of elite Arabs, Aristotelis estimates they have more than enough to defeat the weakened Seleukids. For now, Aristotelis continues the peace with the Seleukids and waits to see how this war will develop:
https://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6415/maa2042jj4.jpg
Other ominous news reaches Aristotelis this year, as spies report that a Hellenic man in Nubia claims to be descendant from the Ptolemaic line and claims rights to all the lands once in his ancestor's hands. For now, Arche Makedonia simply calls the man a fake and ignores the problem:
https://img144.imageshack.us/img144/3738/maa2043li4.jpg
The known world in 197BC:
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Next: Chapter 35 : The Fall of Roma
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I thought all the Ptolemies were extincted, only in-laws left? A bit much battle this time, but still great. I love it how you give "leftovers" a new colour and declare them a different faction. But how did you manage to get the "Hay destroyed" pop-up when they are still alive in Iran?
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Yeah, there were only distant in-laws left. But there was bound to be a Ptolemaios child that would come of age and spawn in their new capital. To cover this eventuallity, I did some foreshadowing in a previous chapter about a Ptolemaios child who was taken into hiding in Nubia.
I actually saved, cheated in various ways to quickly kill Hayasdan, took the picture, reloaded before they died, and continued from there.
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Nice one with the family line and yet another great chapter + nice little spin with the ptolemoi guy
I'm wondering if a superpower is going to emerge from the east or the steppes?
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Great AAR, MAA, keep it up! So what's the name of our new purple faction, then?
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Thanks.
I'm not exactly sure what is going to happen in the east. Saka is a protectorate under Baktria. Since AI-AI protectorates are one of the few things the diplomacy engine seems to keep, it looks like Baktria won't be heading north like they stupidly will some times. I've been trying to get AS and Baktria to fight for a long time, but they just don't want to. If I don't get there first, it looks like the Baktrians are either going to become an Indo-Greek superpower or Gandhara(Pahlav) is going to become an Indo-Iranian superpower.
What the new faction is, I'll answer with a preview from my next chapter:
https://img161.imageshack.us/img161/2571/maa2045na4.jpg
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You changed their in-game name, too, huh? Did you do the same for Gandhara and Meroe?
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You can change the in-game name in-game? I never get an alliance with somebody I have been at war with, not even a ceasefire.:no:
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I had to change a text file to change the names, "expanded_bi.txt" IIRC.
I used forced diplomacy to get that alliance, :shame: but we don't share a border anymore so they might have given it to me anyways, eventually. :sweatdrop:
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nice update! cant wait for the fall of Roma!
what are you going to do about the getai in the north? they look big.....
also, is the model for the romani generals in the campaign the old ones from RTW?
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Were are you planning on going after the fall of rome?
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I'm more impressed than anything with how logical the world looks, as far as a Total War game is concerned. :stunned: (Ignore the Swêbôz in Novgorod and assume Pahlava are really Gandhara.)
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Great as always, looking forward to the next chapter
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I'm more impressed than anything with how logical the world looks, as far as a Total War game is concerned. :stunned: (Ignore the Swêbôz in Novgorod and assume Pahlava are really Gandhara.)
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That's probably because MAA wiped the Romans out... (The SPQR always spoils the reason and sense to expansion.)
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Originally Posted by hooahguy
nice update! cant wait for the fall of Roma!
what are you going to do about the getai in the north? they look big.....
also, is the model for the romani generals in the campaign the old ones from RTW?
The Getai have been my friends since the very beginning. Currently they show no signs of betrayal (they'll heavily garrison the towns they share with you just before betraying you), so I'll leave them for now. The spawned armies of Lugia have wandered to all of those rebel territories in the Poland/Belarus area, so I don't think they'll be expanding northward, either.
The strat models are whatever was in the game in v0.8x.
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Were are you planning on going after the fall of rome?
With Getai friendly and between the fact that I don't want Gaul and that the 'civil war' has heated up again, I don't think I'll be heading north. Which leaves Carthage and the Seleukids as candidates for expansion. I was planning on taking Babylonia, but I'm going to wait a while to see if the Ache Seleukiea - Sab'yn War will weaken both of them. I also plan on kicking Carthage out of Iberia, but the Luso's are finally starting to win that war too.
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Originally Posted by Mouzafphaerre
.I'm more impressed than anything with how logical the world looks, as far as a Total War game is concerned. :stunned: (Ignore the Swêbôz in Novgorod and assume Pahlava are really Gandhara.)
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There's three main reasons that my AI expansion isn't crazy. 1- I kept Hai out of the steppes. 2- I took towns in Germania from Aedui and gave them to Sweboz through forced diplomacy. And 3- Baktria got Saka to be their protectorate, stopping Baktria from striking northward. (And of course, stopped the Romans and their awkward expansion.)
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Hey Marcus your Empire is starting to look like a Greceo-Roman Empire kinda like
Alexandros and the East and West put together in a nice lovely Black ball of death :skull: . BTW it's been awhile since I've been on and now I see ALOT more Macedonian AARs, Nice one Marcus:applause:
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I never even planned to head westward, but the Romans and Carthaginians just wouldn't leave me alone. (Plus, I had to stop the crazy Romani expansion problems.)
It's good to see more Makedonian fans out there. Unfortunately, for me, most of the new AAR are better written than mine.
I've finally gotten around to working the next chapter and will have it up today.
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Chapter 35 : The Fall of Roma
Spring 197BC, Pyrrhos of Makedonia is attacked by a small Romani legion under the command of Tiberius Aurelius Cotta. As the battle begins, Consul Manius Cornelius Blasio marches the only remaining full legion of Roma from the city to join in the fight. Having learned their lesson about their lack of cavalry, the Romani field huge amounts of horsemen to counter Pyrrhos' veteran Illyrian cavalry:
https://img259.imageshack.us/img259/5821/maa2047kc6.png
On the fields of Latium, just south of the city of Roma, the two armies march toward eachother. If the Romani loose this battle, everything they have every had is lost. If Pyrrhos looses this battle, he will call upon his brother's army in Arretium, the Illyrian army in Ariminum, or the Sikilian army in Capua. Win or loose, Pyrrhos is dedicated to taking the city sooner or later:
https://img120.imageshack.us/img120/2672/maa2048do4.png
The Romani make the first move, as they charge their cavalry into the Makedonike left flank. To counter, Pyrrhos moves both his cavalry and his reserve Samnites to that flank:
https://img247.imageshack.us/img247/5860/maa2049ok1.png
Arriving on that flank, the Illyrian cavalry charges a unit of Romani horsemen who are attempting to move around to the Makedonike rear:
https://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9485/maa2050dt7.png
Soon, the entire Romani legion charges at the Pezhetairoi line and attempts to break through it:
https://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9122/maa2051nm0.png
The line holds, but the trouble on the left flank continues:
https://img112.imageshack.us/img112/5030/maa2052ek3.png
On the right flank, the second devision of Illyrians charges the Romani general:
https://img409.imageshack.us/img409/3871/maa2053xx6.png
General Tiberius Aurelius Cotta escapes, but on the second charge, Servius Cornelius Scipio is cornered:
https://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6141/maa2054yu5.png
With nowhere to go, Scipio dies on a Makedonike pike.
With their generals dead, the forces from the city begin to faulter and some begin to flee. Seeing the fleeing enemy, the Illyrian right flank takes the oppertunity to wipe out the Romani before they can regroup:
https://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6822/maa2058jg2.png
Pyrrhos finally moves to the left flank, himself, and personally takes command of the cavalry there. Charging in on the Romani Consul, Pyrrhos and his men surround him and fight with their swords:
https://img409.imageshack.us/img409/7958/maa2057sg0.png
The left flank continues to suffer, as Pyrrhos fights the Romani Consul. With the right flank secured, the Samnites charged with guarding the right flank charge across the battle line and rush to assist their fellow Samnites, fighting on the left flank:
https://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9400/maa2059jw9.png
Soon, the Romani Consul is alone, as the last of his men die. Breaking from the fight, he attempts to flee, but runs right into Balearic swords:
https://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4787/maa2061wu0.png
When Pyrrhos and his cavalry charge after the Consul from behind, Consul Blasio is cornered by the Balearic Slingers and is slain:
https://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7134/maa2062mi8.jpg
With their Consul dead, many of the Romani think of their families back in Roma and turn to run back to the city. Only a few Romani soldiers remain behind to fight. Namely, the Romani elite spearmen and their elite allied swordsmen. One unit of Romani allies attempts to circle around the rear of the right flank (undefended because the Samnites who were guarding it had moved to the left flank), but the Pezhetairoi break formation and charge them:
https://img511.imageshack.us/img511/713/maa2063ym6.png
On the left flank, the elite Romani spearmen charge the exhausted Samnites, who hold them down while Pyrrhos rests his horses:
https://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6379/maa2064zc4.png
Seeing their betters still fighting, several units of Romani return to the battle and the Pezhetairoi attempt to reform and meet them, though they are quite exhausted:
https://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9254/maa2065us6.png
Finally, with a little rest, Pyrrhos charges his cavalry into the rear of the elite enemy:
https://img248.imageshack.us/img248/50/maa2066cd5.png
With that, the Romani once again break and flee back to Roma. As Pyrrhos and the entire cavalry force gives chase, the Pezhetairoi form a defensive possition and rest for a short while:
https://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7529/maa2068px1.png
The resting comes to an end when the old elite men of Roma arrive and attack from several sides. Unable to hold them off in formation, the Pezhetairoi drop their sarrisas and charge the enemy with their swords:
https://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8916/maa2070kj4.png
The Pezhetairoi surround the old men, but these elite men hold their formation and continue to fight:
https://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6861/maa2071tk3.png
Only when charged by Pyrrhos and the cavalry are these elite old men defeated. Pyrrhos gives chase to the city, but the remaining Romani barricade themselves in the city:
https://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2673/maa2072ha5.png
Pyrrhos wins a great victory against a numerically superior army of elites, but the day is not entirely his:
https://img248.imageshack.us/img248/438/maa2073df1.jpg
The city is too large and well fortified to take by force, and they have enough supplies to wait Pyrrhos out. Seeking an alternative, Pyrrhos attempts to negotiate. The diplomats make good ground, but in the end the Romani refuse to surrender and Pyrrhos is forced to besiege the city and wait out the Romani.
Over the next two years, Pyrrhos defeats all of Roma's allies in Latium and raids those who refuse to surrender. By the time Roma's supplies are running low, they have no more allies to turn to outside their walls:
https://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4823/maa2074lw9.jpg
Finally, the Romani send out a envoy to discuss the terms of their surrender. Even after seventeen year of war, Pyrrhos does not take advantage of the situation. Promising that he will not loot the town, kill the people, or destroy their holy places, Pyrrhos arranges a surrender. Pyrrhos marches his army through the gates of Roma and takes control of the city:
https://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5341/maa2099ti8.jpg
With that, the Romani and their Italian alliance comes to an end:
https://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7459/maa2100wg0.png
As Pyrrhos secures the city, he is amazed at what he sees. The only city in the world that can even compete with the size and amount of people in Roma is Selekeia, but Romani technology for a town of such size surpasses what Hellenes and Makedones had ever done before.
To provide water to so many people (34,000+ in game), the Romani devise an advanced water delivery systems to bring water from the hills down to every part of the city. The parts of the system outside of the city had been damaged, but Pyrrhos, the very man who damaged them, funds their rebuilding:
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The Romani are quite religious people and have great temple complexes in their city. Pyrrhos and his men are impressed, though it is nothing as grand as the Parthenon in Athenai:
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The Romani are so superstitious in fact, that they even have state sponsered divination rituals to predict the future:
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The very center of Roma is based upon their great forum at the very center, where their religion, their government, and their trading is all preformed:
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One of the most unique things about Romani life, is their entertainment. Huge, government funded arenas are built where they have men fight to the death for the entertainment of the lower classes. Armed combat for sport is not alien to Pyrrhos, but the scale on which the Romani perform it is quite unique:
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More to Pyrrhos' liking are the government sponsered chariot races:
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As Pyrrhos takes control of the city, he makes sure that very few Romani are actually killed. Keeping his promise, the population is neither slaughtered nor sold into slavery. Only a few disagreable Senators are killed, though not all. One Senator, a man who fought against Pyrrhos two years earlier, even joins Arche Makedonia and is given command of the regional military, which is basically nonexsistant:
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After receiving gifts from many rich families in Roma, Pyrrhos reestablishes the Romani Senate with Makedonia-friendly men and begins to return the town to their control. [I set up a Type4 and am going to role-play that the client ruler is actually the Senate.] Pyrrhos, not a man of peace and administration, plans to move his army from the city in a few years and return the whole of central Italia to the new Senate, as soon as he believes they can be trusted...
Next: Chapter 36 : As Roma Fell (aka What else was going on at this time)
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Re: The Antigonids : A Makedonian AAR
YAHOOO!!!!!! very nice update!
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Re: The Antigonids : A Makedonian AAR
Very, very nice MAA. Other may write better, yet the way you describe your battles and the way you role-play more that make up for what you say you lack at writing skills. I have just looked back. The Romani war has been going on for quite some time (from page 8/9 up too now).
What do you intend to do now? Make a new faction and force it to become protectorate like all the other "fake" faction you have created or what? And how long did it take to take Rome? Crazy! I know you role-play but you could have attacked Rome any time any day. One final question. You did battle for the city, right? In order to get the message. Did you reload after that and force-diplomacy or did you really attack them? If so, what were the losses?
Once again, great AAR MAA!
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Re: The Antigonids : A Makedonian AAR
another epic update MAA!
@ Respenus
If you are beseiging a settlement and you command a force that is numerically superior to the enemy's sometimes the settlement will surrender to your forces without a fight.
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Re: The Antigonids : A Makedonian AAR
MAA your contribution to the world of AARs is truly epic. You don't give yourself enough credit. The descriptions of your battles and your roleplaying are awesome. What I like is the fact that you are continuously offering us surprises and you play as if this is the real world. You have seamlessly blended many aspects of gameplay that makes for a thoughly enjoyable read
:book: Keep up the good work. You are dedicated to your task at hand and I commend you.
However your empire has grown so large you are the new Rome. You will have to deal with the many challenges of a huge expansive empire. Would you mind showing a screenshot of how much corruption you have from your end of turn report? Thanks,
Chirurgeon :egypt:
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AW: The Antigonids : A Makedonian AAR
As much as I appreciate your AAR, I have to say that this was quite not what I had expected.~;) As Carthage I conquered Roma a few days ago and I got some 80.000 mnai out of it. They had 35,000 inhabitants, now they have 9,000. I made them a provincial backwater. I accidentaly made them a client kingdom afterwards though. I had planned a New Colony to destroy them completely...
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Re: The Antigonids : A Makedonian AAR
Thank you for the kind words, everyone.
After the first battle, the Romani had almost no money and 200 men left. After 9 turns of siege they just died without a fight. But they are dead. I was considering making a protectorate out of them, but the protectorate system is bugged and ends up destroying your economy. If they were simply forced into an alliance, they would betray it sooner or later. In the end, I destroyed the faction (completely).
Even after Roma surrendered, I wasn't sure what I was going to do. I looked at the occupy/enslave/exterminate screen for a while and ended up pushing occupy. If I exterminated I probably would have ended up killing more people than the entire war with Egypt cost. I didn't want my empire to be that evil, so that and my love of the Romans kept me from killing them off.
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Re: The Antigonids : A Makedonian AAR
A truly epic update, MAA!! I like the civility that you showed towards the Romani, totally befitting a cultured Hellenic civilization overawed by the glorious achievement of their Roman superiors. :clown: It was kind of annoying to see a mix of Camillan and Polybian units though, but thats the AI for you...