A Bridge Zhou Far - Three Stars Rising [Concluded]

I just find it waaay too much of a coincident that I was killed the night sigurd was fishing for my character role pm

i still FOS sigurd

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Originally Posted by taka

I just find it waaay too much of a coincident that I was killed the night sigurd was fishing for my character role pm

i still FOS sigurd

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Oh come on.... don't dump that big strawman on me mister.
I never asked about any role pm. Again Jolt and ArpeggiateThis can confirm. I simply asked if you had other things to do than staying in our group. Which you first insinuated that you had and then reprimanded me for CC'ing to Jolt and ArpeggiateTHIS. Then you claimed you had RL commitments and hadn't the time to spend playing. Then you claimed you had other commitments in the game.

My gut said you had a role based on those PMs and the *watching* post, but I am not into the killing business.
Why did you reveal in the first place?

Psychonaut was standing on guard. Chosen by the Chairman to help watch over a particular member of PEXDET,he was maintaining the outer perimeter. There wasn’t much to maintain, to be honest. The fierce wind and dizzying altitude made it beyond unlikely that they would be subject to a Reactionary assault. But, orders were orders, regardless of how cold Psychonaut got. Personally, Psychonaut had thought it would make more sense to keep a closer watch for threats around their charge, but their group had spare numbers, so…

“Hey!”

Psychonaut looked over to see a man approaching him. He was wearing a grin that was a little too wide for Psychonaut to feel comfortable. Psychonaut aimed his rifle at him, just to be sure.

“Halt!”

The man laughed, and opened his coat to show that he wasn’t carrying any sort of firearm. Reassured, Psychonaut lowered his weapon.

“So what’s a Marxist like you doing stuck all the way out here then, eh? I can’t imagine there’s much to look out for in this part of the camp” said the man, tilting his head down the blocked road from whence the Communists had came..

“Oh, you never know. The Japanese are sneaky blighters. You saw how they caught us unaware in Heihui Chen. They could be planning anything even as we speak” said Psychonaut

“Really? Wow, I had no idea. To think that they might be planning countless ways to bring us civilization. Tsk tsk.” said the man, shaking his head.

“Yeah they really are…wait, what?”

The man flashed another uncomfortable smile, and grabbed Psychonaut by the back of the neck. Too shocked to react, Psychonaut could only scream as he was pulled down onto a blade that was thrust into his belly.

“Sneaky doesn’t even begin to describe it“ whispered the Jap Officer, as he ripped his katana out of Psychonaut’s abdomen, and held it behind his head, steadying Psychonaut to keep him in an upright position.

“You should be proud, Psychonaut. This is an antique blade that has slain Russians, Koreans, Germans... and a lot of Chinese. ” And with that, he brought the blade down fast onto Psychonaut’s neck, slicing through it, and decapitating him.

The Japanese Officer laughed, and wiped his sword on Psychonaut’s hat, before sliding his katana back into its sheath, and slipping away into the night.

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“Comrades, I have more bad news.”

The Chairman had gathered the Maoists in the freezing cold in the middle of the camp. The Communists were tired and cold, and several of the Marxists, notably Thermal Mercury, M3YUZ, Wishazu and spL1tp3r50naL1ty looked close to death.

“Psychonaut was murdered last night, whilst protecting one of our dear comrades, apparently by the Japanese. We still have more work to do Comrades, and we cannot quit until every single last Counter-Revolutionary is dead and held aloft as a banner to strike fear into the Bourgeoisie, and hope into the hearts of the Peasants.”

A few Communists nodded. Most remained glumly silent.

“Oh, and I have more news. I have searched Azathoth’s belongings thoroughly, and it turns out that he was a loyal Communist who wasn’t even susceptible to any Imperialist propaganda. So I guess that's something to celebrate...”


Alive players: 31/40

ACIN
ArpeggiateTHIS
autolycus
AVSM
Captain Blackadder
Cultured Drizzt fan
Cute Wolf
Death is yonder
Double A
GeneralHankerchief
johnhughthom
Jolt
Joooray
landlubber
M3YUZ
miotas
Nictel
Niklas
Pinman
Renata
Romanic
Seamus Fermanagh
Secura
Sigurd
spL1tp3r50naL1ty
TheFlax
Thermal Mercury
wideyedwanderer
Wishazu
Yaseikhaan
YLC

Lynched players 3/40

Azathoth
Beefy187
shlin28

Killed Players 6/40

Winston Hughes
Sasaki Kojiro
taka
Beskar
Chaotix
Psychonaut

Phase ends at 20:00 GMT+1

vote YLC

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Originally Posted by M3YUZ

vote YLC

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YLC draws your suspicions how, exactly?

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Originally Posted by ArpeggiateTHIS

YLC draws your suspicions how, exactly?

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I have to admit this was a stab in the dark, i've become a bit confused due to a few days absence and have taken a guess

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Originally Posted by M3YUZ

I have to admit this was a stab in the dark, i've become a bit confused due to a few days absence and have taken a guess

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2 posts...your vote posted immediately after you're narrative wog warning and this one admitting its randomness ...and a Marathan avatar....suspicious my friend, quite suspicious.

The Kuomintang is not known for a quiet and retireing approach....but Japanese are my lurker pal, they most definitely are.

Psychonaut died protecting someone, so he was a special role? Looks to me like it was a similar role to what Beefy claimed (bodyguard dying instead of his target).

Does anyone know who he was protecting last night?

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Originally Posted by Romanic

Psychonaut died protecting someone, so he was a special role? Looks to me like it was a similar role to what Beefy claimed (bodyguard dying instead of his target).

Does anyone know who he was protecting last night?

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Yes, and your theory is probably incorrect.

Okay folks, an issue has come up that I'm going to let the people decide on. Within the past couple of days, I received two PMs:

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Originally Posted by Pinman

You wanted a network - Heres a start.

My gut tells me JHT is guilty as hell:

After I made my remarks in the thread, painting him as guilty, he came to me roleclaiming as an investigative agent pursuing a rogue trotskyist. He noted that he can investigate three people every night to see if they were said trotskyist. However, first night he defended for you, second night he missed his orders, and third night he investigated - but wouldn`t tell me who.

Heres why I dont believe him:

1) After he made this claim, I asked him if he killed Winston. It is apparent to me that the person who is killed Winston is pursuing the hairy man, based on the comment about facial hair. It was at this point that he declared that the hairy man couldn`t be the trotskyist, and thus the trotskyist must be an investigator - like him. A duel of two as it were.

This strikes me as extremely odd - when you note that the hairy man and avenger seem concerned with the purity of communism (based on the writeups). So i think its likely that JHT used a true backstory, but is in fact the hairy man, and doesn`t want to make a roleclaim that can be later contradicted by the avenger.

2) He noted that after he kills the trotskyist, he becomes either an SK or a simple townie. But he doesn`t like being an SK - so he`ll choose the town - he promises.

Sounds like an unimaginative attempt to demonstrate pro -towness to me - which doesn`t reflect reality. Why would an investigator become an SK? Even if this is true, it illustrates an independent VC.

3) After he told me this - I told him i`d rescind my accusation, since he might be useful - if he roleclaimed to you and asked to be roleblocked and scanned. He refused to do so - even though he blamed me for drawing attention to all this information - saying he was now dead anyways.

My gut is he thinks I`m a deceivable newbie, but if the information got to you - he`d be dead.

4) Three investigations a night - you`ve got to be kidding. Shameless attempt to seem valuable.

I strongly recommend lynching him now based on his unwillingness to undergo an investigation, the scummy nature of his roleclaim to explain my revenge connection - which paints him as the hairy SK if you read my post, and the revenge connection itself.

If you want confirmation of these things, you can ask JHT whats up. I recommend not telling him what I`ve said and simply asking the question, to see if he changes his story. Personally I think theres no reason to bother waiting the night. His roleclaim indicates an independant VC from the town, and the supposed person he is pursuing doesn`t seem dangerous. So even if he is telling the truth (unlikely), it doesn`t harm us much to kill him.

Hopefully you`ll let me help in future - i`m new here, and don`t know the lay of the land.

Pinman

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This prompted my request in the thread for JHT to give me his particulars.

JHT responded last night with this:

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Originally Posted by johnhughthom

Night one: followed your instructions
Night two: missed my orders
Night three: investigated you, Beskar and Double A.

I am a special agent looking for a rogue Trotskyist who I stopped from assassinating Mao, killing his partner. That is where the revenge stuff in the write ups come from. If I manage to catch my target I can become either a pro-town role or SK, I have zero interest in becoming a serial killer. I have three investigation per night, which may or may not uncover rightists. I lose this ability if the target is killed. I can assassinate, my pm doesn't mention losing this if my target dies. I had a one shot night immunity, used up now obviously. I can also take part in any town groups as normal.

So as you can see, I could be quite useful to you.

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We initiated a precautionary roleblock on JHT last night. I'm still waiting to hear back on investigation results for Pinman. Officer discussion of this issue has been inconclusive, with general sentiment being "kill them both to be safe." Therefore, I throw the issue to you.

Next time I give you private analysis, which last night's roleblock demonstrated to be correct, keep it between you and the officers.

Vote: johnhughthom

Do what you like people, I'm guessing the only reason I'm still alive is that my target hasn't been paying close attention to the thread. He can't miss this.

Which is why I asked that you either be immediately killed, or as per my initial suggestion, privately roleblocked and investigated.

Posting my suspicions and your roleclaim in the thread was.... unwise Mr. chairman.

Hey, don't criticize me over this. We can't make anything out of the roleblock, since the hairy man only showed up once before this and we've barely seen the KMT at all. Also, john, if you are telling the truth, I can get protection on you.

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https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/image...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

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https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/image...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Romanic https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/image...post-right.png
Psychonaut died protecting someone, so he was a special role? Looks to me like it was a similar role to what Beefy claimed (bodyguard dying instead of his target).

Does anyone know who he was protecting last night?

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Yes, and your theory is probably incorrect.

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Can you elaborate comrade Chairman? Unless you believe this information is better kept secret.

Knowing who was targeted last night may help us guess rightly in the future.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Hey, don't criticize me over this. We can't make anything out of the roleblock, since the hairy man only showed up once before this and we've barely seen the KMT at all. Also, john, if you are telling the truth, I can get protection on you.

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I am telling the truth, how do I prove it?

I don't know about Pinman's loyalties but his pm to you doesn't really reflect the pms we swapped. I didn't say the hairy man couldn't be my target, I said it was unlikely he would waste time on random kills as he was likely to have similar abilities to mine (an assumption) it would be a waste to go around randomly vigging people. I didn't promise that I wouldn't become a serial killer, I stated I disliked such roles. I didn't express unwillingness to undergo investigation, I simply refused to reveal to you on his say so, when you asked me to do so I did. I never claimed to have any other VCs than neutral. As for the three investigations, they are apparently unlikely to turn up rightists (it doesn't specifically say they can't) and I lose them if I get my target. Slightly overpowered? Perhaps. Unheard of in mafia games? Hardly.

Someone doesn't like my work obviously. For the love of all things holy lynch:

ArpeggiateTHIS
Niklas

Then grill a few semi-lurkers, one of them is the hairy guy and the remaining 1-2 Japs.

Infact. 100% lynch Niklas. There's a reason they killed me with a sword. Someone wanted to bring me over to the Jap team, but couldn't. So they thought they'd off me instead.

vote: Niklas

Unless the 3 days PM investigation proves me wrong, Psycho is, at the very least, not anti-town.

I'll be honest and say it... I'm confused. :juggle2: Having read the pm's General Handkerchief posted, it's too early to rule out Pinman, but my gut is telling me johnhughtom is more likely the guilty one. But Niklas also seems suspicious. Psychonaught was likely pro-town (or at the very least, not anti-town, as Double A pointed out), and he seems to think Niklas was behind his murder. I'm gonna hold off on casting my vote until I get a better feel.

On a side note: I don't understand why mafia games at this site allow dead people to openly post their thoughts on who is guilty/innocent. :hanged:That's like communicating with ghosts, isn't it? :thinking:

*SPOILER ALERT!* I'm one of the guys who suggested to kill them both.

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Originally Posted by Sigurd

Oh come on.... don't dump that big strawman on me mister.
I never asked about any role pm. Again Jolt and ArpeggiateThis can confirm. I simply asked if you had other things to do than staying in our group. Which you first insinuated that you had and then reprimanded me for CC'ing to Jolt and ArpeggiateTHIS. Then you claimed you had RL commitments and hadn't the time to spend playing. Then you claimed you had other commitments in the game.

My gut said you had a role based on those PMs and the *watching* post, but I am not into the killing business.
Why did you reveal in the first place?

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sorry, you twitch my guts :laugh4:

I never revealed directly, but i was hoping to catch certain eyes

luv ya rly siggy ;)

Should I succumb to petty instinct, or fall to peer pressure? Alas!

Vote: Niklas

Because I might not get another chance to vote before the deadline ends (have to work all day tomorrow) I'm gonna go ahead and vote: Niklas.

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Originally Posted by A Very Super Market

Should I succumb to petty instinct, or fall to peer pressure? Alas!

Vote: Niklas

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You didn't answer my question. You KMT or Japanese scum!

vote : johnhughthom

Ok, I'll explain a better explaination, someone who had special role could be Mad Demolition expert, and as such, expert in all explosive things... did you have a beard too?

Vote: Niklas

I suspect that some of the people who are against the communist revolution are being very quite. Also what to everyone what is the town, pro-town or townie of which you speak of we are all communists are we not trying to find the counter revoluntionaries?

Vote: Niklas


I too think there is something "hinky" in this and would follow the suggestions made before in this thread. In adddition, the conflict between jht/pinman is, for me, unresolved. It is obviously worthy of examination.

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Originally Posted by Psychonaut

Someone doesn't like my work obviously. For the love of all things holy lynch:

ArpeggiateTHIS
Niklas

Then grill a few semi-lurkers, one of them is the hairy guy and the remaining 1-2 Japs.

Infact. 100% lynch Niklas. There's a reason they killed me with a sword. Someone wanted to bring me over to the Jap team, but couldn't. So they thought they'd off me instead.

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I honestly do not understand what I have done that can be seen as anti-communist. Could you elaborate on why you hate me so?

Either way, here's the obvious bandwagonning that I promised last round: Vote: Niklas

Why Niklas? Is it another gut feeling? or is there any substance behind it. Investigation maybe?

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Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

You didn't answer my question. You KMT or Japanese scum!

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Do you have an investigation to follow up your accusation?