It's a simple question, Connie doll, an you ain't no known townie. You wanna answer?
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It's a simple question, Connie doll, an you ain't no known townie. You wanna answer?
What Bugsy said is true, Luigi.
Day One -- Bugsy
Day Two -- no vote
Day Three -- Pedro
Day Four -- Connie
Day Five -- Connie
Don't mean he ain't scum, don't mean you are. But he's right.
There are no post-mortem reveals. So we don't know if we've caught any scum yet. That makes what you ask a hard task...Quote:
Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Luigi
I wouldn't call it that and I didn't. I said your votes were primarily on bandwagons because that is the case. As far as I recall, your votes have always been on the person who hung, bandwagon or no.Quote:
And bandwagons? The only time I've been part of something that can legitimately called a bandwagon, was Connie's (revealed to be Centurion1) demise, but then again I've voted for her the previous day twice (including the extension). I doubt you'd call that blatantly joining one w/o showing any reason.
I'll put more effort into it later, then. Adressing your points; a) I take the game as seriously as I think is appropriate. That means I'm trying to win - and trying to have fun. b) I am not placing false suspicion on anyone; If I have more suspects than I have votes, isn't that evidence that I am not afraid of declaring my very real suspicion of multiple players? I think I'm the only one who's used the FoS in this game so far. c) I want to look innocent, as would anyone playing, townie or not. And yes, the support of a confirmed innocent is kind of comforting; it means I'm on the right track (or at least that I'm not alone in my suspicions).Quote:
Dear Bugsy, you certainly should put more effort in assessing someone's activity, instead posting a really half-a$$ed one. The way I see it, you're just a) you did not take this seriously at all; b) Trying to place false suspicion on someone, then washing your hands off the case by merely casting a FOS c) make yourself look good by supporting a dead townie's uncertainty about someone.
So. unvote, Vote:Luigi. You're squirming, so I'm putting my vote where it counts.
Really? I think you made a mistake there, Sonny.
D1 -- Bugsy (only vote that round)-ext -- Pedro (executed)
D2 -- n/a
D3 -- Connie (of 2 total)
D4 -- n/a--------------------------ext -- Connie
D5 -- Connie (executed)
I'd think extensions don't really count as bandwagons. D5 I didn't just 'jumped in' to the bandwagon out of nowhere, I've had suspicions on Connie way before that, just because a few got their votes in first, does not mean mine's anything more that a bandwagoner
Exactly. That’s why claiming my posts are not ‘impressing,’ when none of the others could be called ‘impressing’ either, I found hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Bugsy
FALSE. Look above. Day 1 on Pedro is not even worth mentioningQuote:
Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Bugsy
Don't twist it. I don't remember you posting any suspicions about me prior to Earthling's inquiry. You've had none to begin w/. So I don't think he's supporting you at all. The way I saw it, you jumped into Earthling's inquiry, made a case out of it (of w/c I found very weak), hoping to get on his good graces and make you look good to the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Bugsy
Luigi, you right, I'm wrong, I ain't sayin that again jus so's you know.
unvote, vote: Bugsy
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Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Bugsy
Check out the underlinin. You gettin careless with your "suspicions" there, Bugs, now maybe that's understandable your neck bein on the line an all, but you'd think you could remember if Johnny needs votin for or not from one moment to the next. You flailin, Bugsy.Quote:
Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Bugsy
Richie (and Johnny) still alive today, you know. You coulda voted for either one, but you don't. You vote Vincent (my suspect) and Luigi (Earthling's). Lookin to blow smoke up some townies hind ends, eh Bugs.
Yes, I jumped on the suggestion of a proven innocent to look at you and it looked bad enough that I voted you. Is that really suspicious?
Sonny, I'm keeping my suspects in mind, but as it was said earlier, today a vote against Luigi actually matters, whereas another vote for a candidate nobody else votes isn't going to accomplish anything. I'm still suspicious of Richie, but he's so silent he might be WoGbait soon. No, I'm not trying to lick up to others, I'm trying to lynch a suspect. If I wanted to brown-nose, I'd keep quiet and vote Frank. I didn't.
Also, Luigi, I noticed the crosspost, and the first day one vote seems to be the only thing I was wrong about. I agree that extensions aren't really bandwagons per se, but your votes have still been rather uncommitted. If you actually manage to lynch me today, your votes are going to be purely against dead people, as I said. Also, your last post seems more than a little rhetorical, yelling "false" at a quote where only part of it (the underlined part) is false.
unvote, vote: Bugsy
Tsk, tsk, tsk, the thing about forgetting who your suspects were doesn't really help your case... didn't you read the rule about keeping tabs of your lies in a notepad?
If you bring up a weak/shallow case , it is. (w/c I think yours is)Quote:
Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Bugsy
So much for me being Uncommitted to my suspicions. I try to pursue those who I have an inkling to be suspicious, and let it out in the open (when necessary) to be picked apart to see if it is worth pursuing. There will be blood in my hands, but it can’t be helped really, esp if there’s no confirmation of scum when lynched. Have you been committed to your suspicions?Quote:
Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Bugsy
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Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Bugsy
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Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Bugsy
I’d say you’re way more uncommitted than I am.Quote:
So you say he's worth pursuing but you'd rather stay away & not get attention. Then vote Vincent (whom you've never voted before) w/o adding your reasoning, instead of someone you may have pointed suspicion on in the earlier rounds
Angry, why would I be angry? I lynched my top suspect yesterday. :party2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
Answer which question? Feel free to ask it again, but if you refer to the question about when your pedro vote was, and what I did on the same day. I could answer you, but
1) Your alignment is unknown, why should I bother?
2) You can look it up yourself, why should *I* bother?
If you want to make a case on me, don't expect me to look up the facts for you. I know that you're just looking for some reason to point your finger even more at me, and I prefer to be looking at my actual suspects if you don't mind.
unvote; vote: Bugsy
I'm agreeing with Sonny, that the contradiction he outlined is suspicious, and it happened within less than one hour. I can't explain how Bugsy's point of view can change this quickly, without any mention of it in the game thread, unless he's one of the bad guys and is faking suspicions.
oh Luigi that's a laughably scummy defense. Either really poor, or you're actually scum, but you're straight out OMGUSing Bugsy this whole way.
Furthermore Luigi makes a lot of sense to me as someone who could be responsible for the nightkills so far. The fact that he attacked Bugsy for following me rather than attacking me is funny, but I'd already looked over his posts myself and it's pretty much what Bugsy said. Bugsy would have to be trying really really hard as a scum to come up with a summary of everything that sounds exactly what a townie would say from a townie perspective.
It was certainly helpful for the recent post summarizing the kills and I'm thankful for that but I don't fully agree with the reasoning that it was just for postcount/inactivity. It seems quite clear to me that the scum killed people who
a) were not obsessively pursuing a case against someone else. (Like Anne vs. Frank or those vs. Vincent. If all involved are Innocent, the scum could just sit back and let townies hack away at each other...probably what happened)
b) were still active enough to be likely to vote and pursue other suspects, possibly catching the scum.
Regarding me personally I highly doubt I was murdered by someone I would have already supported or believed was a townie and made that clear, that's just suicidal by the scum just as I said yesterday with Connie. That does leave plenty of candidates of course, I can't say it's just Luigi, there are still Richie, Ralph, a bunch of others who seem to be just lurking-but-active-enough to be scum or a random surprise. But don't follow the OMGUS votes on Bugys guys.
Luigi really is in a good situation to meet all of these scum criteria though and look how scummy his defense is, huge jump in activity and posting tons of quotes to try to prove his case by attacking his accuser without addressing the points against him. He doesn't defend his bandwagonning or promise to reform his ways to contribute more to a town, his first resort is calling Bugsy a liar.
Fine then.
First vote.
Big George.
Reason, none given.
Vote two.
Luciano
No reason given
Vote three
voted Joe
Reason? "My flair is telling me he's our guy."
Vote four
Me
Reason: It appears that while bobby disagrees with the initial reasoning he sees this as no reason to not vote me! Fantastic logic. Also an incredibly flippant vote.
So bobby here is a question i cannot look up. Why are flippant votes okay when they come from you? Also why do you jump so quickly from your first accusation this round to vote on the bandwagon?
Classic attempt to cast a negative light on the accuser. you are of far more questionable alignment. Furthermore your alignment is far more important.Quote:
1) Your alignment is unknown, why should I bother?
Oh, man... seriously?
Is it scummy if I attempt to disprove what i feel are wrong accusations made against me?
Is it scummy if I feel alarmed that people just started voting for me w/o confirming said wrong accusations? I do feel that i've addressed them properly so far.
Am I scummy if I place suspicion and vote against someone trying to frame me? I don't think that's even an OMGUS vote.
Did you accuse me of anything prior to your last post? You didn't. Why would I even attack you at all? All I read is you not knowing what to think of me.
Why would you find it funny that I didn't attack you, Eartling, & rather Bugsy? There's no debate what role you had. You were killed at night.
I've done everything that Luigi did with less activity and contribution. Yet I'm innocent.
I should be getting votes on me. Those voting for Luigi isn't doing a good job.
I don't feel like voting for Luigi.
I'll go with Bugsy
Vote: Bugsy
Guess I did miss the WOG warning. I hope he gets it too. If he shows up to avoid the WOG, I'm going to personally gun him down myself.
unvote: Frank
vote: Luigi
Seems a bit flinchy under pressure.
Voting closed.
Stand by for the execution.
Day 6 in the Kingdom of Peace and Love and things were getting personal. People who had laid out cases against each other a few days prior were starting to shout more and gesticulate in order to be heard, and once that was accomplished, listened to. Insults and accusations, this time more serious than the ones that had come before, were being thrown around more readily. Finally, one or two people started yelling at nothing, almost as if picking a fight with the air.
This was the scene that Chief of Police JuJuBee presided over on Day 6.
The list of viable candidates for execution flew back and forth as the day progressed, but by the end of things there were two: Frank, who hadn't done much of anything over the past few days, and Bugsy, who had laid out numerous cases and even gotten a person or two lynched, and the living players were now turning on him. Bugsy, for his part, tried to mount a defense, giving and explanation of his actions and offering an alternative lynch candidate, with persuasive statements to back it up. Frank just sat motionless in his lawn chair.
As the sun began to disappear over the horizon, the increasingly-desperate Bugsy continued to talk away, hammering home his points with the same rigor as he had always done, although with maybe a bit more of an edge in his voice than he had ever done before. Clearly, this man did not want to die and he was laying it all out on the line for the villagers in what was perhaps his final hour on earth.
Frank just sat motionless in his lawn chair.
The sun set for good, and Bugsy, fresh off the last one of his speeches which did absolutely no good, slumped his shoulders in final defeat. He had kept a running tally of the day, a telling sign of his overall involvement and investment in the situation, and knew the score. He was down for the count. Bugsy, resigned to his fate, mounted the execution platform, prepared to face whatever means of execution the Chief of Police provided for him with dignity.
Frank just sat motionless in his chair.
The villagers observed Bugsy's execution with mixed reactions. He had gotten the most votes, yes, but it wasn't by much, and Bugsy did have his share of fans, if not followers, that had tried to defend him over the day. Many of them pondered this new change in direction for the Frontroom's villagers and how Bugsy's absence would affect future lynch proceedings, if indeed there were to be any. That was the effect Bugsy had on you, after all. His presence had galvanized the Frontroom and gotten everybody more involved, and if not that than it had least gotten them thinking. That presence would be there no longer.
Frank just sat motionless in his chair.
As JuJuBee cleared away the body of Bugsy, also known as Diamondeye, everybody began clearing out of the Frontroom square and returned to their homes for what would be another sleepless night. Everybody except Frank, of course, who remained motionless in his chair. It had turned out after all that Frank had actually died two days ago, passing away quietly, and it was just that nobody had noticed.
As the twilight expired and darkness fell over the Frontroom square, only the corpse of Frank, also known as spL1tp3r50naL1ty
remained. Well, Frank and the flies, of course.
Day 6 tally:
Bugsy: 5 (Luigi, Sonny, Angelo, Bobby, Richie) :skull:
Frank: 3 (Ralph, Emilio, Bruno) :skull:
Luigi: 3 (Pete, Anne, Bugsy)
Bobby: 1 (Fat Tony)
Ralph: 1 (Luciano)
Didn't vote: 6 (Bertha, Frank, Fredo, Giorgio, Johnny, Vincent)
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Still alive: (17)
Angelo
Anne
Bertha
Bobby
Bruno
Emilio
Fat Tony
Fredo
Giorgio
Johnny
Luciano
Luigi
Pete
Ralph
Richie
Sonny
Vincent
Wrath of God:
spL1tp3r50naL1ty (Frank)
Killed:
Winston Hughes (Chickenman)
robbiecon (Giuseppe)
Visorslash (Maria)
johnhughthom (Christopher)
issaikhaan (Furio)
Death is yonder (Carlo)
Seon (Fingers)
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88 (Big George)
Earthling (Nick)
Csargo (Mickey)
Ashurnasirpal II (Salvatore)
B_Ray (Paulie)
Executed:
Jolt (Pedro)
Andres (Rocco)
Chaotix (Joe)
Sigurd (Claudia)
Centurion1 (Connie)
Diamondeye (Bugsy)
Player list:
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It is now Night 7! Due to my work schedule, the round will last for 30 hours as opposed to the usual 24.
A minor addition to my argument against Luigi: I was not accusing him of being uncommitted to his cases; Making few enemies by sticking to a few suspects is a sound mafia tactic. I meant he's generally been uncommitted to the game. All of his posts until today have been more or less one-liners and he's gone with the flow instead of arguing his own cases. That is the kind of uncommitted I meant. Sticking to a few cases doesn't do anything to make your case better.
I still believe Luigi is a sound lynch for tomorrow, his defense is scummy.
I know how it sounds coming from me, but please try and listen to Earthling, he's actually making sense so far.
Your scum is bertha and bugsy.
Care to elaborate? Especially on the Bertha part since Busy's like dead anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by Centurion1
Excuse me. i meant bobby not bugsy.
Bertha is a side target to bobby who I have elaborated on.
I tihnk berthas scummy but it is bobby who screams scum from the high heavens.
If that is what you meant by me being 'uncommitted,' then it means I misunderstood what you said, and for that I apologize. :stwshame:Quote:
Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Bugsy
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Day breaks in the Frontroom. All is quiet. For the mafioso had done all of his sawing during the night, as his target slept soundly and there was no birdsong to tip the noise balance in favor of waking up. There would be no need for a massive amount of duct tape for this one, either. The idea for this one was to keep the target moving, at least for a little while.
Ralph, a rather paranoid soul, arose and immediately his eyes darted around the room, searching for something suspicious. Anything that looked out of place would have instantly triggered Ralph's notice, as years of black ops training had left him as a very capable "something's not right" detector. A rug that had a corner crumpled up, a door left slightly ajar (or closed too much), the layer of dust on a flat surface perhaps a bit more fine than it should have been - these were all of these things that Ralph automatically checked for. He breathed a sigh of relief when his room was determined to be undisturbed.
The process continued as Ralph continued the morning routine, meticulously checking each of the bathroom, his kitchen, the foyer, and the other bathroom before clearing them and then actually physically entering the rooms in order to do his usual routine. With Ralph properly satisfied about the condition of his house, he began to let his guard down a bit. He cooked himself a delicious breakfast of pancakes, with bacon on the side and a glass of freshly-squeezed orange juice to drink, and began to chow down before he realized that he was missing one critical ingredient to the perfect breakfast: his morning paper. For you see, while Ralph may have received black ops training in a lot of areas and was probably more technologically-inclined than 99% of the Frontroom (before its inhabitants had begun to die off), the one area that Ralph was old-school in was with his newspaper as opposed to getting his information from online sources. Nothing beat it, and he didn't care what anyone else said.
Ralph opened his front door, took in the morning air, and stepped out onto his front porch.
"WAAAA - OH GOD! AAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaafztz*"
Poor Ralph, who had been so meticulous in his room checks, had in his haste to get his morning paper failed to check the outside of the house, and in doing so missed the extremely obvious trap door the mafioso had sawed into his porch the night before, a trap door that led directly to a container of sulfuric acid.
While Ralph was awoken naturally, since the mafioso's sawing was not loud enough to prematurely rouse him, the same was not the case for Luciano, who stirred when his ringing telephone pierced the morning silence. Groggily, he fumbled around for a bit before finally placing his hand on an object that felt close enough to a phone. Holding it up to his ear, he mumbled "hello?"
"Luciano!" came the voice on the other end of the line. "You need to get out of the house right away! Somebody set you up the bomb!"
Bomb. That word was enough to jar anyone awake, no matter how out-of-it they had been just a second ago. The same was the case for Luciano, who slammed down the phone, put on some sneakers, and bolted out of the house just seconds before the house exploded in a fiery blaze.
Across the street came Luciano's neighbor, the one who had called Luciano up to warn him, to view the aftermath. As was natural, Luciano immediately approached him, thanking him again and again for his life and starting to become incoherent with his glee that he was still alive despite no longer possessing anything valuable to his name. The neighbor let this pass for a few minutes, while Luciano finally calmed down and then asked him the question that probably should have been asked right from the start.
"How did you know there was a bomb in my house, anyway?"
"Don't you remember how you ran over my petunias last fall?" Luciano's neighbor said, "When your tires crushed those flowers, a part of me died." Luciano was now running the full gamut of emotions, going from grogginess to fear to adrenaline to grief to gratefulness, to now, confusion. Meanwhile, his neighbor continued to speak.
"But my flowers will be avenged. No longer will they cry out to me: 'Where is the justice for the one who did this to us?' and I can rest easy at night."
The gamut of emotions was starting to repeat itself. Luciano once again now felt fear as his truly insane neighbor took out a radio-controlled device. Who would kill over crushed petunias? Moreover, who would go to the trouble of planting a bomb in your house, warning you about it, and then monologuing you just so he could kill you?
A mafioso, that's who.
"So I planted that bomb in order to force you outside," the mafioso finished. "Now - attack, raccoons!" He pressed a button on his radio-controlled device, and before Luciano could do anything a horde of angry, possibly rabid raccoons leaped down from the nearby trees lining the sidewalk and began mauling him to death. The gamut of emotions now stopped, as Luciano was no longer capable of ever feeling an emotion again.
Later that day, Chief of Police JuJuBee summoned everyone into the Frontroom square in order to make an announcement.
"Okay everyone," he said, "The butcher's bill is the usual two today. We have Ralph, also known as White_eyes:D, who died by falling into a vat of acid. Well, at least I think it's Ralph, anyway, as there really wasn't any body to recover. It was at his house though and considering he's not here right now... yeah. Also, we have Luciano, who you know as Ignoramus, falling victim to a gaze of raccoons. And before you ask, yes, 'gaze' is one of the grammatically-correct ways to refer to a group of raccoons. See, you learn something new every day! Anyways, get voting!"
WOG Warning: Giorgio. PM will be going out in a bit.
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Still alive: (15)
Angelo
Anne
Bertha
Bobby
Bruno
Emilio
Fat Tony
Fredo
Giorgio
Johnny
Luigi
Pete
Richie
Sonny
Vincent
Wrath of God:
spL1tp3r50naL1ty (Frank)
Killed:
Winston Hughes (Chickenman)
robbiecon (Giuseppe)
Visorslash (Maria)
johnhughthom (Christopher)
issaikhaan (Furio)
Death is yonder (Carlo)
Seon (Fingers)
ELITEOFKINGWARMAN88 (Big George)
Earthling (Nick)
Csargo (Mickey)
Ashurnasirpal II (Salvatore)
B_Ray (Paulie)
White_eyes:D (Ralph)
Ignoramus (Luciano)
Executed:
Jolt (Pedro)
Andres (Rocco)
Chaotix (Joe)
Sigurd (Claudia)
Centurion1 (Connie)
Diamondeye (Bugsy)
Player list:
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It is now Day 7! Voting will last for 24 hours.
vote: Vincent
No more pussyfootin around. Back later, boys and girls.
Vote Bobby
Missed a few votes will be reading to catch up again.
I think Richie and especially Luigi deserves some attention. I'd also like Anne to speak up more; Her posts so far have been fine but only focused on Frank. I'd like to hear her on others.
OK, lissen up. Here's why Vinny needs lynchin.
He votes every day, but he don't try to find scum.
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Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Vincent
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Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Vincent
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Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Vincent
"Strange" is like "interestin". It don't mean nothin. Plenty a people lose interest an stop votin, and most of em are townies. Means nothin, but Vinny here wants you to think it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Vincent
Votin Connie because he don't wanna vote Bugsy. That ain't scum-huntin.Quote:
Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Vincent
(tie-break)
Nope. Vinny's votin Connie over Claudia here. Last time it was cause he didn't wanna vote Bugsy, but Bugsy ain't on the line here. Says it's the same reason, but it ain't. He's blowin smoke up your hind ends.Quote:
Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Vincent
The case he had nothin to do with. Well, ain't that convincin.Quote:
Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Vincent
He got a special fondness for tryin to look townie. You know, except without the scum-huntin that most townies do.
"Let's not", "in case we change our minds", "isn't what we need". Look at me, ma, I'm a :daisy: townie! Look how helpful I'm bein, shakin my scummy head at this sad, sad, sad bandwagon.Quote:
Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Vincent
Blow smoke up Bugsy's :daisy:, if he's a townie. Blow smoke up dead people's :daisy: too. I think you call that snugglin in the mafia biz. Suck up to those as might be on your side against mean ole Sonny. An don't get me started on lampshadin the third vote thing. Teehee, I made a third vote! Ain't that (hee!) scummy? I'm so :daisy: helpful I even tell you! Hee!Quote:
Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Vincent
We agreed yet that Vinny ain't lookin for scum? Good. Because he is busy with other stuff. Like countin votes.
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Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Vincent
He was up four votes to three.Quote:
Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Vincent
He knows he's vote three on Connie.Quote:
Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Vincent
He don't respond to any votes on him, ever. He takes scummy defendin and goes all the way aroun an back again to scummy ignorin.
No comments, there ain't none. Everythin he ever said is up there, ceptin this:
an that was from Night Zero or some such :daisy:.Quote:
Originally Posted by [MAFIA] Vincent
You got some points there Sonny, just some things for consideration:
Defending is a tough business as a townie, especially with the anonymous accounts where people will see anything rather as a scumtell than as the usualy playstyle of that person.
Say something? You're immediately called out for being defensive or "squirming". Say nothing? You get called out for not responding to votes against yourself. So even as a townie you just have to hope no one votes you 'cause once the votes start rolling in it'll be hard to lose them again.
What covinces me of Vinny being a good lynch right now are two things you pointed out: One is trying too hard to look like a good townie and the other is the "nothing changed"-reason for the vote on Connie that you already elaborated on.
so, vote: Vincent
I hope I'll have more time to analyze later today
Luigi probably has to be lynched eventually because the scum aren't going to kill him for us. A bad predicament but not an easy way out. However I can see the reasons for going Vincent so I'd be happy enough with that and making Luigi the counterwagon today if one is going to happen.
Bertha your vote for Bobby looks kinda bad considering you had people calling you and Bobby out for working together and acting scummy. Not saying I really agree with that, you two being the scum together that is, but it seems like you ignored the thread or are wanting to get that stuff ignored on purpose by feigning it.
Huh? This makes no :daisy: sense... If he's scum we have to kill him, yes, but then it's pretty obvious the scum aren't going to kill him because then HE IS the scum... if he isn't I don't see why we would want to get rid of him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Earthling