Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back [Concluded]

There were lots of different rocks in the world. Big. Small. Sharp. Dull. Black. Gray. Green. Dense. Heavy. Light. Dirty. Wet. Rough. Smooth. The rocks being used (re-used, if one wanted to get technical) were the perfect type of rocks for throwing at people.

They were small enough to hold and throw with one hand, but big enough to make something of an impact on its target. They were mostly gray, having been taken from the Frontroom Quarry. However, a few had bloodstains on them, having been the final rocks to strike the previous day's condemned, Zalmoxis.

Husar would now be the one to receive the rocks. He had no interest in them. But there was nothing he could do about it. He could only hope that the Frontroomers had exceptionally bad aim.

Meanwhile, as he hoping, normal procedings went on. Once brought up to the execution platform, he was asked by Chief of Police Beirut if he had anything to say before he was executed.

"Um, yeah... I really hope the wind picks up sometime in the next couple of seconds."

A few villagers chuckled at this. That was pretty much the only noise made (no wind) until the yell of pain eminated from Husar, whose feet has just been stapled to the platform.

At that signal, the rocks began to strike their target. As previously mentioned, they were perfect for throwing at people, and very shortly Husar departed this world.

Here is the voting total for Round 4:

Husar: 4 (Kagemusha, Sigurd Fafnesbane, Csar, Ignoramus) :skull:
Csar: 3 (doc_bean, Husar, Xiahou)
Ignoramus: 1 (Craterus)
Kagemusha: 1 (discovery1)

Abstained: 5 (Masy, Seamus Fermanagh, Don Corleone, AggonyDuck, Dutch_guy)
Didn't vote: 6 (Crazed Rabbit, Destroyer of Hope, Drisos, God's Grace, Reenk Roink, Silver Rusher)

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Still alive: (19)
Seamus Fermanagh
Kagemusha
Craterus
Xiahou
Silver Rusher
Don Corleone
AggonyDuck
Crazed Rabbit
Ignoramus
Csar
Reenk Roink
Destroyer of Hope
Dutch_guy
Sigurd Fafnesbane
doc_bean
Masy
discovery1
Drisos
God's Grace

Committed seppuku:
Divine Wind

Killed:
UltraWar
Sir Moody
Pannonian
Evil_Maniac From Mars
Sasaki Kojiro
theRTWGuru
Kommodus
Proletariat

Executed:
Hepcat
Banquo's Ghost
Zalmoxis
Husar

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Originally Posted by Csar

What I didn't understand that Xiahou? I think I'm above being suspicious? How so?

Edit: And I would have had Sasaki killed in GF2 if I really wanted him dead but there's no reason to kill him he's usually more suspicious when he's alive.

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Right, the point was that, on the surface, you would seem to have the least reason to kill Sasaki. Too late for this round though....

Edit: These no-votes and abstains are getting out of hand.

Yay, my first erm, execution.
I'm not sure whether I like that stoning, imagining doesn't really give me a stronger christmas feeling, but at least you said it was quick, GH.:sweatdrop:
I want to thank everyone who voted for me and congratulate the real mafiosi for erm, another free kill...:bow: :clown:

Being a great fan of Sasaki, I won't refrain from posting now though.:2thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

Right, the point was that, on the surface, you would seem to have the least reason to kill Sasaki. Too late for this round though....

Edit: These no-votes and abstains are getting out of hand.

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Alright I didn't understand what your saying. Thanks for spelling it out for me.

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

Edit: These no-votes and abstains are getting out of hand.

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Agreed. People who do nothing but abstain will suffer my wrath. Consider this a warning.

I literally just found out that I was executed. That's despressing, but have you thought that maybe I'm just not as committed as any of you to think out my actions?

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

Edit: These no-votes and abstains are getting out of hand.

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I would agree on that, had I not just had this thought...
Maybe two of the ONLY FOUR people voting for me are mafia?

Voting Records:

Inactive (Abstain or no vote) Voters:

-- 4+ of 5 votes (4 lynchings):

Don Corleone: no vote, no vote, no vote, Kagemusha, abstain

Drisos: no vote, abstain, no vote, no vote, no vote

Dutch Guy: Abstain, no vote, Divine Wind, no vote, abstain

God's Grace: no vote, Divine Wind, no vote, no vote, no vote

-- 3 of 5 votes:

Craterus: no vote, abstain, Divine Wind, no vote, Ignoramus

Crazed Rabbit: Reenk, abstain, Zalmoxis, no vote, no vote

Masy: abstain, Divine Wind, Divine Wind, no vote, abstain

Silver Rusher: no vote, Proletariat, abstain, Csar, no vote


Of the 11 "active" votes cast by these 8 voters, 5 were for the eventual suicide victim.

Drisos has only voted once, by abstaining!


Other voting points of interest:

All 4 voting for Divine Wind's death in round 2 (not runoff) are alive [God's Grace, Masy, Seamus, Xiahou]. 2 of the 4 who voted for Banquo are dead.

Masy has only voted to lynch Divine Wind.


Other points will follow as I tease them out.

Okay... Nobody believed when I said Husar was innocent. What is the point of a detective if noone believes him??

Since that I have already posted that I was the detective, I am NOT breaking the rule by doing this. I think. If I am, please delete.

PM from GH:

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Sweep, sweep.

Loud crunching noise could be heard as theRTWGuru sweeped his rather big garden. Suddenly he came across a loose paper on the ground.

"Come outside"

Startled, Guru when outside and saw two men in grey suits and gold ties.

"Take this letter. Don't show this to anybody else."

"What? But why?"

The men walked away. Guru had no choice but to open the letter and read the contents.

"Something is wrong. We want you to investigate. To keep it secret, we want you to show this letter to nobody."


Congratulations!

theRTWGuru, you have been chosen to be the detective of the Mafia V: The Family Strikes Back!

Your job is to post me investigation after each Mafia kills. Remember, you cannot reveal your position after your death.

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This simply means you have killed Husar who was innocent.

Anyone know if GH gave such elaborate PMs before?

If you really were the detective and went public so early you deserve to be killed so early and have no one listen to you...

I just noticed Silver Rusher is keeping awfully quiet, not like him at all.

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Loud crunching noise could be heard as theRTWGuru sweeped his rather big garden. Suddenly he came across a loose paper on the ground.

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swept

Quote:

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Startled, Guru when outside and saw two men in grey suits and gold ties.

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went

etc

GH has better grammar than this.

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

Voting Records:

Inactive (Abstain or no vote) Voters:

-- 4+ of 5 votes (4 lynchings):

Don Corleone: no vote, no vote, no vote, Kagemusha, abstain

Drisos: no vote, abstain, no vote, no vote, no vote

Dutch Guy: Abstain, no vote, Divine Wind, no vote, abstain

God's Grace: no vote, Divine Wind, no vote, no vote, no vote

-- 3 of 5 votes:

Craterus: no vote, abstain, Divine Wind, no vote, Ignoramus

Crazed Rabbit: Reenk, abstain, Zalmoxis, no vote, no vote

Masy: abstain, Divine Wind, Divine Wind, no vote, abstain

Silver Rusher: no vote, Proletariat, abstain, Csar, no vote


Of the 11 "active" votes cast by these 8 voters, 5 were for the eventual suicide victim.

Drisos has only voted once, by abstaining!


Other voting points of interest:

All 4 voting for Divine Wind's death in round 2 (not runoff) are alive [God's Grace, Masy, Seamus, Xiahou]. 2 of the 4 who voted for Banquo are dead.

Masy has only voted to lynch Divine Wind.


Other points will follow as I tease them out.

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Interesting, what's your conclusion from all this?

Lurking is certainly a problem.

I love how mafia games work like a prisoners dilemma, Nash equilibrium be damned :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Interesting, what's your conclusion from all this?

Lurking is certainly a problem.

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Not surprising, when anyone who posts ideas gets lynched.

Call it The Banquo Dilemma.

:bounce:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I know, I'm dead, what do I know. :grin:

I think we can assume that most of those who have several no votes are likely innocent. The risk of Wrath of God should be enough to keep the mafia active. So I think we need to look for the mafia among those who vote or abstain.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

swept



went

etc

GH has better grammar than this.

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You're raising good points there, but, GH is human and I am innocent and that is why I am inclined to believe the Guru, for what other reason should he do this? And if we were both mafia, then the game would be over, right? Additionally, he got killed by the mafia...

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

GH has better grammar than this.

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Agreed. That "quoted" PM didn't look like GH's style at all.

Look, theRTWGuru, you made it pretty clear you weren't really the detective with your fake "reveal." If you were the real detective you'd never have done that, unless you were completely clueless. The way in which you did it was impossibly unbelievable too. Is it any wonder that no one listens to you?

I'm not precisely sure why you falsely claimed to be the detective, but hey, it's been done before by other townspeople. At least by getting yourself killed you made the mafia waste a kill that could've been used on the real detective.

Anyway, I sort of doubt Husar was guilty, but then again, the fact that he seems to believe Guru's ridiculous assertions is a bit suspicious. :inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Husar

You're raising good points there, but, GH is human and I am innocent and that is why I am inclined to believe the Guru, for what other reason should he do this? And if we were both mafia, then the game would be over, right? Additionally, he got killed by the mafia...

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Just because you were innocent (which I happen to believe) doesn't mean theRTWGuru was in fact the detective. He could have proclaimed your innocence from his own hunches.

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Originally Posted by Csar

Can no one understand a joke? You want me to spell it out to you?

It is a joke from a couple of games ago.

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A 'joke' written over the internet tends to miss the target, especially if it isn't funny. And no, you don't need to spell it out to us, just be sure to make the sarcasm clear in a post - especially in games where the writing style of a post can get you lynched or murdered.

And I take it the 'joke' from a couple of games ago refers to one in GF2 ?

:balloon2:

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Originally Posted by AggonyDuck

I think we can assume that most of those who have several no votes are likely innocent. The risk of Wrath of God should be enough to keep the mafia active. So I think we need to look for the mafia among those who vote or abstain.

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If I were mafia I'd make sure that at least 3 people had as bad a voting record as me, so at least 4 people would be killed by WoG if I was killed, little chance of the General killing 4 people in one round me thinks...

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Originally Posted by Don Corleone

Just because you were innocent (which I happen to believe) doesn't mean theRTWGuru was in fact the detective. He could have proclaimed your innocence from his own hunches.

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You may be right, but I cannot see the sense in that. If he did it as a townie he was eitherjoking or taking the risk to make a possible mafia member(me in this case) look innocent.

HEY EVerYBODY I"M THE DETECTIVE!!! TRUST ME!

I think we can safely assume that atleast Drisos and God's Grace are innocent. Doc I do not see any difference between WoG'ing three or four villagers.

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Originally Posted by discovery1

HEY EVerYBODY I"M THE DETECTIVE!!! TRUST ME!

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You've been making mostly joke posts. What for?

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Originally Posted by AggonyDuck

I think we can safely assume that atleast Drisos and God's Grace are innocent. Doc I do not see any difference between WoG'ing three or four villagers.

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There's safety in numbers, usually only one or two people would get WoGed, so you don't run much risk.

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Originally Posted by AggonyDuck

I think we can safely assume that atleast Drisos and God's Grace are innocent

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Why should we assume that ?

The only ones who are confirmed innocents are, well, the killed townies.

UltraWar
Sir Moody
Pannonian
Evil_Maniac From Mars
Sasaki Kojiro
theRTWGuru
Kommodus
Proletariat

Other than that, we have a wide range of suspects, obviously.

:balloon2:

Because any mafioso will show enough interest in the game to atleast cast a vote or abstain. No mafioso would have failed to vote four times. That is why it is safe to assume that they are innocent.

DuckieWhat makes you so sure that the mafioso wouldnt take that risk?

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Originally Posted by AggonyDuck

Because any mafioso will show enough interest in the game to atleast cast a vote or abstain. No mafioso would have failed to vote four times. That is why it is safe to assume that they are innocent.

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I don't see it. There were no hard and fast rules regarding WoG for this game, so theoretically, a mafioso could still be sending in their kills while playing at being inactive without getting a WoG. :shrug: