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Loki you are indeed a funny chap. I have already challenged One self proclaimed God to Holmgang and it was me who even introduced myself to you and you want an apology?
I hope Thor will smite you with Mjolnir few times across your temples to get you into your senses.:laugh4:
"Thor this" "Thor that"...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
I really tire of human jokes... :sleeping:
If you are speaking the truth - challenging a god is foolish. So I leave it up to you to demonstrate that you are what you claim - or touched in the head. If your what you claim to be - you should be able to provide the information fairily simple. If you don't wish to make it public send a PM. A rather simple thing to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
In this time in place touched in the head often equated to touched by the gods. So either way there is no honor in challenging you either way.
I rather just have you lynched during the next vote - if you don't provide the proof that supports your claim. Edit: Besides that the one making a big deal of the "God" claim seems to be you, since your the one that brought it up. Is the problem that your only godlike power is to indeed shoot fireballs from your behind?
Blah blah blah, you speak without understanding anything I have just said, continue to operate on your incorrect assumptions, yet you still have not grown the cajones to put your sword where your mouth is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
You waste my time... :rolleyes:
Begone.
Besides Reenk frankly its really much more simple to just have you lynched. If your claim of being the "God of Chaos" is correct - removing you will not hurt or help the town in either way. Your not providing assistance to the town only distracting it with your claims of knowledge that you do not share.
So giving up the name of the Jotun that you know would help you in that regards because it allows us to focus on that individual for the first half of the voting cycle.
So as far as I see it now - the most obvious individual to lynch is yourself with your desire to create chaos in the gathering versus assisting in destroying the Jotun
So voting for you will not be a bad thing at all. So convince me otherwise by logic and proof - no more making claims of being a god will be accepted by me as valid without the actual demonstration of the validity of the claim.
I don't think we can afford to dismiss Reenk's claim to divinity.
Gods mingling with mortals would be very much in line with Norse sagas etc.
Of course, in the stories, Loki isn't exactly the one who inspires trust....
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Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Touched in the head it is,
1) the holmgang is closed until next round.
2) if it was open I could not challenge because of the last challenge I won.
So convince me not to campaign to have you lynched during the next vote phase. Because so far you have not convinced me at all. Removing you from the game seems to be a bigger benefit to the cause of the town then anyother possibility right now primarily due to your attempts at creating confusion and distrust.
More "fireballs out of the behind" (that is how your small and vulgar brain puts it correct?) from you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
Let us count the ways:
:stupido:
You ask me to prove my role by telling you something I already have said I cannot tell you. :rolleyes:
:stupido:
You threaten me with lynching, when I have already said that I am unfazed by the possibility. :rolleyes:
...and to think progress was being made with AndersTheCunning...
His hard work at reconciling just went to naught...
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
Which is why I said "Next round"... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
That's why I said "Next round"... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
Don't request of me anything human.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
Do I care? I am the God of Chaos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
I have to do what my role says, and if I am dead, I will still be PM'ing and carrying out my tasks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
Correct, but remember in the end, who Loki helps the most... :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
Oh I got even more and better ones. But hell its within the game role and the timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
LOL you made the claim and you can not actually fulfill. Tell you what provide the Holmgang score of the Champion, the Jarl, the Jotun and yourself and lets see if you can actually provide the information.Quote:
:stupido:
You ask me to prove my role by telling you something I already have said I cannot tell you. :rolleyes:
So before calling someone stupid - you might want to be actually willing to provide the information. Yes Reenk the attempt with the smilie is seen for what it is. But you failed miresibly.
Not a threat at all - the best course of action for the town right now is to vote for your lynch - you provide no information, only arrogant claims and attempts at being confusing - again I don't make threats just observations.Quote:
:stupido:
You threaten me with lynching, when I have already said that I am unfazed by the possibility. :rolleyes:
Oh and like you were going to reconcile - you really are the stupido that the smilie you used demonstrates.Quote:
...and to think progress was being made with AndersTheCunning...
His hard work at reconciling just went to naught...
Care to play the insulting game - I can be rather good at it.
Touched in the head and stupid at the same time Reenk I am becoming rather amused by your inability to justify your claims.
Vote: Reenk for being irritating, pity it isn't day yet
Redleg, this is out of the game, but don't you see that it is you who throws the insults, and then gets very upset when others throw back. Happened in more than one game now...
Now, I can shrug off humor, from Kage, Sasaki, and whoever, and I get the vibe that they are joking. The same is not true for you. I'm sure other people who've had to contend with you feel the same...
Back to game.
No, you are mistaken. I claimed that I knew general Holmgang stats, not particulars. I made this clear over and over again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
You said: "One sure fired way to demonstrate you are a god is that you know my name, and my holmgang score. You can either post it here or send me a PM -either way is fine. If you wish me to believe your the God of Chaos you must demonstrate other then with boasts,"
Now, how am I going to know these things? I never claimed I knew these things.
I do know that thralls have a Holmgang rating of 2, and War Veterans have a Holmgang rating of 3. I posted this before.
I'm not going to tell you the Champion or Jarl score is (one of them is 5, but I shall not tell which one), because frankly, I don't want anything to do with you anymore.
Why should I help the town or Jotun after all the crap I'm getting?
Jotun's do not have the same scores, you are mistaken here again.
OK, I'll bite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
Your "observation" unfazes me. I really don't care if I get lynched.
All I have to make sure to do is send Sigurd that PM before, and I will do that.
It seems you can not handle it - rather interesting. Lets review "fireballs from the rearend" is an ingame insult on your claim to be a god. Same as "touched in the head" if you claim that I am upset about your comments it because of your failure to probably read. Notice that even the calling of stupid was dealt with at the game role not anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Oh and like you were going to reconcile - you really are the stupido that the smilie you used demonstrates.
Care to play the insulting game - I can be rather good at it.
Touched in the head and stupid at the same time Reenk I am becoming rather amused by your inability to justify your claims.
Once again read the comment - it seems that some like to play the game of insults but don't want them dealt back. If you can not handle blunt speech maybe its best for you to not respond, nor attempt the tactic you have with me. Its really that simple.
Like I said I can play the insulting game just as well as others - its just I am more blunt and to the point with it. The game in question was not about insults but childish spaming of the thread, the abuse of a moderator's ability to undo influence the game, and other childish behavior. The kicker was the use of childish statements and emotioncon's to insult coupled with that childish spamming that set me off, along with some real-life pressure issues that happened at the same time . So don't believe for a second its purely about "in game insults." Your claim here is as false as I believe your claim to be a god in this game is.
In other words you can not support you claim either way it goes. How interesting. So your false as they come. When one makes a claim - they must expect to have it question, reviewed, analysised and torn apart to find out the truth. It seems you can not handle such a stance - nor can you justify your claim.Quote:
No, you are mistaken. I claimed that I knew general Holmgang stats, not particulars. I made this clear over and over again.
You said: "One sure fired way to demonstrate you are a god is that you know my name, and my holmgang score. You can either post it here or send me a PM -either way is fine. If you wish me to believe your the God of Chaos you must demonstrate other then with boasts,"
Now, how am I going to know these things? I never claimed I knew these things.
I do know that thralls have a Holmgang rating of 2, and War Veterans have a Holmgang rating of 3. I posted this before.
I'm not going to tell you the Champion or Jarl score is (one of them is 5, but I shall not tell which one), because frankly, I don't want anything to do with you anymore.
The score you mentioned is the Jarl's so lets have you give the others and tell us how the Jotun functions in the holmgang - claims of having the knowledge without providing the information will be torn apart until either it demonstrates you do not know or you actually tell. Again I am aggressive and blunt. Insult me away - I can handle the insults its childish behavior that I do not tolerate. So go ahead and provide all the insults you want in the game - but if you do so - don't be surprised if its returned in spades and in an even more blunt ingame manner.
That is way I asked - the mistake is yours. You made a claim and you expect it to believed? That seems rather foolish given the nature of the game which is based upon deception and lies.Quote:
Why should I help the town or Jotun after all the crap I'm getting?
Jotun's do not have the same scores, you are mistaken here again.
It seems to have frazzled you quite a bit. First you claim you can take the ingame joking insults which is exaclty what all three are. However you are demonstrating that you can not handle the pressure of direct questioning so you begin to use the stupido emoticon - but get even more frazzled with someone puts it right back at you.Quote:
OK, I'll bite.
Your "observation" unfazes me. I really don't care if I get lynched.
All I have to make sure to do is send Sigurd that PM before, and I will do that.
Rather interesting in the least. So either respond or not - matter not to me. But your the one making the claim of being a god - but not providing any of the necessary proof to support such a claim. So you left yourself open to the approach that I always take in responding to claims I believe are false. Direct assualt into finding out the truth. If you can not handle that tactic then state so. And then I will go to the lurking style favored by so many, but then again probably not.
Silence, fools, every one of you!!! I have plundered from the Dub Linh to Kiev. I've served in Byzntium, Oseberg and Rome. There's no mortal alive I fear, and my axe is ready to swing to prove it to anyone who says otherwise.
And even I know better than to tempt the Spear of Odin by insulting one of the Aenir. You talk of Thor and his hammer, and it is indeed mighty, aye. But he would swing it at the petulant mortals first who would dare insult his half-brother before he would take up his old grudge with Loki.
Helpful Loki, we are but men. We know not your wisdom or appreciate the depth of your designs. Forgive us, and please, help us sniff out these foul Jotun.
Now this is really funny.
Whether he lies or not, Reenk plays his role very well, yet lynching him would be in the best interest of the town so far. I agree with Redleg there.
Now I'm also curious who of those bowing down or trying to lynch him do it with the motive of silencing him. He claims to know the name of a Jotun but they cannot kill him at night, so there is a chance of the Jotun trying to get him lynched or draw him to their side. But both ways they cannot be sure to reach their goal. Being dead he can send PMs and a collaboration can be a big lie, noone can trust him.
Then again, his role may just as well be made up and he is pulling a huge stunt here, even bigger than that of Omanes who claims to be immortal in Holmgangs.
Well I am out to find the truth to his claim. Lack of proof is evidence of a lie. It seems Reenk is trying to hide behind the claim of being a god but has yet to provide any real evidence. So until he does - pressure should be applied to his claim to either validate it or show it to be completely false.Quote:
Originally Posted by Husar
So if Reenk is truely unconcerned about the lynch as he claims then maybe we should take him up on it.
Hell I will even give him another shot in making his claim valid - why doesn't he tell us what the role of this character is. Hjor Halfsson and whom does he serve.
It doesn't matter if he's a god or not, all that matters is that he's playing as Loki. Even if he does name who the giant was that contacted him, we know he will try to confuse and mislead us later on. So lynch him next, or wait a turn at most.
:laugh4:
Look at how you interpreted the stupido smiley. Do you know how many times in how many contexts I use that smiley?
Give me a break Redleg...
As for the game:
You know I've been right on on what I've chosen to reveal so far.
The Holmgang stats for all I've revealed are correct.
Can't argue with the facts...
No breaks in this game - I learned that on the last one. Some like to play a certain way - so I am using the exact same tactics that others felt were acceptable To include using the same insult in a blunt manner in which they tried in a more subtle way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Smileies are open to interpation especially if one is playing their role. You claim to be Loki as evident with my knowledge of the Holmgang scores I am at least a Jarl. I suspect a jotun alreadly knows that - so I don't mind sharing the role. And I have shared it with others.
Hjor Halfsson Jarl
You are the ruler of Stord. You are a War veteran and a ruler under King Sulke of Rogaland.
In the role of a lord I would not accept a claim to being a god without adequate proof. That proof you have yet to supply. So no I do not accept your claim of being the god of mischief at all.
So supply the information on the Jotun or be quiet and shuttle yourself back to your father's home.
Your problem is that the holmgang wasn't hard to figure out, all one needed is too know one or two of the townie roles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk
So other evidence must be used to actually used to support your claim. The fact that you didn't name my character for who and what he is - demonstrates that your claim is not yet proven beyond a doubt.
I use that smiley everytime I make a list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
Go to the Arena and check some threads about my list of favorite games.
:rolleyes:
All you have given me is a PM. I have already given my Loki PM as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
If you will remain skeptical of my status even after I have given a PM, why should I not apply the same criterion to your status?
Reenk's evidence for his claim to be Loki:
1) A PM.
2) The correct Holmgang stats for Thrall and War Veteran (unasked) and when asked, the correct Holmgang stats for Jarl.
Redleg's evidence for his claim to be Jarl of Strod:
1) A PM.
I will speak as long as I want. I am a God, you are a Jarl... :rolleyes: (this is playing my role, don't take it as anything more)Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
I'm not going to give up the Jotun yet.
As I see it, the townies must apologize first.
AndersTheCunning has.
Reenk:
Please be so kind as to provide us with some information on the identity of the jotun. Nothing can force you to do so, of course, but it would add to the chaos.
The Jotun will be hunting the champions and jarls now, some of whom you have indirectly I.D.'d.
Giving up one Jotun will pressure their team and force up the craziness.
Redleg and others:
Please give Reenk 1 day to accomplish this -- he'll not see another sunset afterwards if we don't get the information needed.
Once I pick an alignment, I will be forced to help that side out, and not be able to play both sides and cause anymore Chaos.
You'll excuse me if I think on the decision a bit, I basically will have to change my gameplan and become an enforcer in Holmgang duels for one team instead of playing the immensely enjoyable game I am right now.
If I had it my way, I would remain aligned only to chaos. It would be a great role.
Of course, if I don't pick a side, I'll end up on the losing team...
In game context my friend in game context - one should be allowed to play the role that they were given regardless of the use of smilies in other areas of the .Org. In the game context I chose to take if for what it means - and respond in kind within the game context. That you chose to misunderstand it for anger - well that is your issue not mine. Have fun with it or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
YOu should be skeptical of it, however unlike you I have a backup to my claim if he so choses to come forward. Every Jarl has a champion that can fight in the holmgang for them. That individual's name I have not given, so the information from the PM is not complete. While I am honest in my approach - I am not stupid enough to give all of my information out. Now if you wish to challenge my claim of being a Jarl you may do so, and I will ask my Champion to come forth and state in this thread that I indeed speak the truth. Then I have also shared this information with a few others and they can speak freely if they wish to do so. I have no need of lies to cloud my claim. Can you state the same?Quote:
All you have given me is a PM. I have already given my Loki PM as well.
If you will remain skeptical of my status even after I have given a PM, why should I not apply the same criterion to your status?
Again the PM information is your claim. And that is challenged. The correct holmgang stats for Thrall and War Vetern are reasonably figured out. Tje Jarl stat of 5 was my answer - your's was that one was 5. So your answer was inconclusive since I provided the actual name.Quote:
Reenk's evidence for his claim to be Loki:
1) A PM.
2) The correct Holmgang stats for Thrall and War Veteran (unasked) and when asked, the correct Holmgang stats for Jarl.
Challenge it if you wish - my claim will be shown to be true, and one that I did not spin. Yours on the otherhand is not so based.Quote:
Redleg's evidence for his claim to be Jarl of Strod:
1) A PM.
You claim to be a God - I state that your simply touched in the head, or in the language of the day - touched by the gods. So untill you provide adequate proof of your claim - begone back to the hall of your father.Quote:
I will speak as long as I want. I am a God, you are a Jarl... :rolleyes: (this is playing my role, don't take it as anything more)
Provide proof and you will get your apology. Until then - well your just attempting to decieve the gathering.Quote:
I'm not going to give up the Jotun yet.
As I see it, the townies must apologize first.
AndersTheCunning has.
Wow... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
Then that is just an arbitrary chance of game mechanics. The Jarl has a benefit that the Loki does not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
In what other conceivable way am I able to meet your standards of "proof"? :rolleyes:
I would say that it is pretty impressive to nail two roles' Holmgang stats exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
Until it is shown to be true, I cannot believe it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
If a champion does speak on your behalf, then again, it is a matter of game mechanics over anything.
I'd much rather stay right here and keep talking away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
If anyone has a problem with that, they can try to best me in a Holmgang battle... :wink:
This does not follow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Redleg
Currently I am deciding on which course of action to take. When I do decide what I want to do, it will be based on my own divine will, not the demands of a petty warlord... :wink:
Still lost.
God of Chaos. You said the Jotuns insulted you. Let the town help you in defeating them.
We have mutual intrests : the end of the Jutons will save the town and you will have your revenge.
Wow indeed :dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Reenk Roink
Simple, provide the name of the Jotun you claim to know of. Provide the proof and once its verfied - then the apology you get.Quote:
Then that is just an arbitrary chance of game mechanics. The Jarl has a benefit that the Loki does not.
In what other conceivable way am I able to meet your standards of "proof"? :rolleyes:
Not exactly - I had three nailed down before you mentioned them in the thread.Quote:
I would say that it is pretty impressive to nail two roles' Holmgang stats exactly.
Then let them speak - I have no problem with those who know my role to speak of it or not.Quote:
Until it is shown to be true, I cannot believe it.
Are you attempting to worm your way out of proving your claim? Such an attempt would be an indication of guilt would it not?Quote:
If a champion does speak on your behalf, then again, it is a matter of game mechanics over anything.
A simple boast considering that the holmgang has closed for the day.Quote:
I'd much rather stay right here and keep talking away.
If anyone has a problem with that, they can try to best me in a Holmgang battle... :wink:
Actually it does - and its been consistent in what I have stated. provide the proof and an apology you will get.Quote:
This does not follow.
Fair enough - but don't take to long. Other recourses are available to the town.Quote:
Currently I am deciding on which course of action to take. When I do decide what I want to do, it will be based on my own divine will, not the demands of a petty warlord... :wink:
How do you know the names?
Surely you see that it's pointless to try to get information from a God, Redleg. Especially the God of Chaos. Even if we do get a name out of him it is unlikely that isn't just a random name. He needs to be killed.