Mafia VI: Night of the Day of the Dawn of the Return of the Mafia [Concluded]

He's only one dude. There are what, 25 people left? The mafia will end up killing 2/3 of them. Spending an entire round on one person only ensures that the mafia won't kill him. Lynching the scummiest player while making sure the others say a little is the way to go. Faust has said enough.

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

And then? I don't really want to lynch Faust, as I think he's a townie. But persuasion hasn't got him to open up so far. The only thing that has consistently been able to get people to talk in all Mafia games is several votes stacked against them and the prospect of execution. If that's what it takes to get him to talk, then that is what he should face. I'll be voting early, and I urge others to do so too, to give Faust plenty of opportunity to explain himself as I've suggested, again and again. I've had to face down a few of these when I was nothing more than an active townie, so I don;t see why it's so unreasonable to expect the same from him.

I'm not calling for his lynching. I'm calling for him to explain himself more, a familiar cry to those who've seen me in other games. However, it looks like persuasion isn't going to get him to talk, so the only way we have left is the threat of execution. Personally, I will be giving him plenty of time in which to contribute to the discussion. However, if he continues to refuse to explain himself while he has a stack of votes against his head, the deadline will pass and the execution will be carried out. If he's left himself in that position despite all the warnings, too bad for him, and too bad for the town if he's not scum. But he'll have had plenty of warnings.

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How illogical.:no: That entire statement makes no sense to me.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Lynching people for being unhelpful is not a protown move. Let's lynch mafia aka vote xiahou.

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It's shockingly stupid that people honestly think I would've drawn so much attention to myself unnecessarily if I was mafia. Well, the town's making their bed and they can lie in it. Vote me and let's be done with it- I'm tired.

edit: What's the tally?

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

He's only one dude. There are what, 25 people left? The mafia will end up killing 2/3 of them. Spending an entire round on one person only ensures that the mafia won't kill him. Lynching the scummiest player while making sure the others say a little is the way to go. Faust has said enough.

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If Xiahou is indeed mafia, and he's lynched this round, then what next?

Faust has found time to throw insults at Reenk, to pout and refuse to answer questions, yet he hasn't found time for the simple task of explaining more clearly why he voted Reenk. What's stopping him? What's wrong with my request for a more detailed discussion?

It's not the time. I also don't see why you'd go for faust when Reenk hasn't discussed at all.

We'll deal with next round when we get to it. I think sigurd is still ahead and x and I are tied at 3.

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

If Xiahou is indeed mafia, and he's lynched this round, then what next?

Faust has found time to throw insults at Reenk, to pout and refuse to answer questions, yet he hasn't found time for the simple task of explaining more clearly why he voted Reenk. What's stopping him? What's wrong with my request for a more detailed discussion?

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That's one less mafia we have to find later.

Why do you need more information about his vote if you think he's a townie?

Voting extended 17-18 hours due to -you guessed it!- real life.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

It's not the time. I also don't see why you'd go for faust when Reenk hasn't discussed at all.

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Because I'm itching for an excuse to vote Reenk, and I was hoping Faust would provide me with one.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Voting extended 17-18 hours due to -you guessed it!- real life.

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Well that's a good thing.

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

Because I'm itching for an excuse to vote Reenk, and I was hoping Faust would provide me with one.

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Whya re you so itching to vote Reenk?

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Originally Posted by CountArach

Whya re you so itching to vote Reenk?

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Because I let him go early on in M5 when he was in trouble, and he reverted back to his strategy of staying away from attention and nearly brought the mafia to victory. Therefore I want him in the open as much as possible and talking, and as I've mentioned votes are the most effective way of forcing participation.

Fair enough then.

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Originally Posted by Pannonian

Because I let him go early on in M5 when he was in trouble, and he reverted back to his strategy of staying away from attention and nearly brought the mafia to victory. Therefore I want him in the open as much as possible and talking, and as I've mentioned votes are the most effective way of forcing participation.

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Then vote for him.

Current Tally:

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Crazed Rabbit = 1 (Stig)

Kommodus = 1 (Crazed Rabbit)

Reenk Roink = 1 (Faust|)

Sasaki Kojiro = 3 (Redleg, Reenk, Xiahou)

Sigurd Fafnesbane = 3 (Andres, Pannonian, Seamus)

Xiahou = 3 (Ichigo, Sasaki, Sigurd)

Fasut| = 1,376 Die! Die! Die! Pan-man, stop trying to edit my posts.

It's a GAME folks! :rolleyes3:

Alright, to break the tie:
Sigurd - I don't see anything abnormal with him here really
Sasaki - As above, jsut seems to be helping the town a bit
Xiahou - Seems not quite himself

Vote: Xiahou

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Crazed Rabbit = 1 (Stig)

Kommodus = 1 (Crazed Rabbit)

Reenk Roink = 1 (Faust|)

Sasaki Kojiro = 3 (Redleg, Reenk, Xiahou)

Sigurd Fafnesbane = 3 (Andres, Pannonian, Seamus)

Xiahou = 4 (Ichigo, Sasaki, Sigurd, CountArach)

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Originally Posted by CountArach

Alright, to break the tie:
Sigurd - I don't see anything abnormal with him here really
Sasaki - As above, jsut seems to be helping the town a bit
Xiahou - Seems not quite himself

Vote: Xiahou

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Crazed Rabbit = 1 (Stig)

Kommodus = 1 (Crazed Rabbit)

Reenk Roink = 1 (Faust|)

Sasaki Kojiro = 3 (Redleg, Reenk, Xiahou)

Sigurd Fafnesbane = 3 (Andres, Pannonian, Seamus)

Xiahou = 4 (Ichigo, Sasaki, Sigurd, CountArach)

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I have to wonder it your reading this thread.:inquisitive: How can you say you don't see anything abnormal?

I think Faust's suspicious... but maybe I'm missing something.

Everyone is suspicious. Its mafia.

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

Everyone is suspicious. Its mafia.

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:laugh4:

Vote: Xiahou
He seems to be unusually anxious to not get lynched...

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Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight

Vote: Xiahou
He seems to be unusually anxious to not get lynched...

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In all seriousness, whatever gave you that idea? All I've done is attacked Sasaki who in turn voted to lynch me. I haven't made any impassioned defenses of myself- I've only called out who I see as suspicious. I have no role to protect.

Of course Sasaki has thrown enough mud on me and enough townies are following him blindly that I've become a distraction from a real mafia hunt. That's unfortunate. Personally, I think Sasaki is guilty- if he's not, he's still hurting the town with his antics.

I've learned my lesson: when Grand Inquisitor Sasaki questions you- ignore him. Any sort of response at all will be taken as a confirmation of guilt if he so chooses. Response too short? You're hiding something. Too long? You're out of character/protecting a role. Just ignore him and he goes away. My mistake was actually bogging down in some sort of debate with him. :shame:

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

In all seriousness, whatever gave you that idea? All I've done is attacked Sasaki who in turn voted to lynch me. I haven't made any impassioned defenses of myself- I've only called out who I see as suspicious. I have no role to protect.

Of course Sasaki has thrown enough mud on me and enough townies are following him blindly that I've become a distraction from a real mafia hunt. That's unfortunate. Personally, I think Sasaki is guilty- if he's not, he's still hurting the town with his antics.

I've learned my lesson: when Grand Inquisitor Sasaki questions you- ignore him. Any sort of response at all will be taken as a confirmation of guilt if he so chooses. Response too short? You're hiding something. Too long? You're out of character/protecting a role. Just ignore him and he goes away. My mistake was actually bogging down in some sort of debate with him. :shame:

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That post for one...

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Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight

That post for one...

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Oh sweet monkey....Let me off this merry-go-round.:help:

unvote: Sasaki
vote: Xiahou

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

In all seriousness, whatever gave you that idea? All I've done is attacked Sasaki who in turn voted to lynch me. I haven't made any impassioned defenses of myself- I've only called out who I see as suspicious. I have no role to protect.

Of course Sasaki has thrown enough mud on me and enough townies are following him blindly that I've become a distraction from a real mafia hunt. That's unfortunate. Personally, I think Sasaki is guilty- if he's not, he's still hurting the town with his antics.

I've learned my lesson: when Grand Inquisitor Sasaki questions you- ignore him. Any sort of response at all will be taken as a confirmation of guilt if he so chooses. Response too short? You're hiding something. Too long? You're out of character/protecting a role. Just ignore him and he goes away. My mistake was actually bogging down in some sort of debate with him. :shame:

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https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=230

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Originally Posted by BK

Vote: Xiahou
He seems to be unusually anxious to not get lynched...

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And what would you do in his position? That's pure bandwagon.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

And what would you do in his position? That's pure bandwagon.

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I'm a townie so I would say so, and if you guys didnt believe me, I would just accept myself as a sacrifice and try to help the town while dead...

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Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight

I'm a townie so I would say so, and if you guys didnt believe me, I would just accept myself as a sacrifice and try to help the town while dead...

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So you'de just roll over without a fight?

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

So you'de just roll over without a fight?

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Ya, wouldn't you?

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Originally Posted by ByzantineKnight

Ya, wouldn't you?

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No, that would waste a lynch for the town. I'de fight until the round ended and I was lynched then I'de continue trying to help the town after that.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

No, that would waste a lynch for the town. I'de fight until the round ended and I was lynched then I'de continue trying to help the town after that.

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Lol, if it sets their eyes on finding mafia, i'd be willing to sacrifice myself to free up their time.

And a mafia could just as easily do the same thing you are suggusting... It would be a perfet cover.

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

Oh sweet monkey....Let me off this merry-go-round.:help:

unvote: Sasaki
vote: Xiahou

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I wouldn't be so quick to give up. Though your posts remind me of when you were guilty in Graffiti that doesn't really prove much does it, and if anything your not a great lynch candidate at this early in the game.

Unvote:Xiahou
Vote:Pannonian

Your post about Faust is the reason I'm voting you. You'de kill a person you say you think is townie because they refuse to make a case against RR so you can vote him. That just doesn't sit well with me.

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Originally Posted by BK

Lol, if it sets their eyes on finding mafia, i'd be willing to sacrifice myself to free up their time.

And a mafia could just as easily do the same thing you are suggusting... It would be a perfet cover.

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Defending yourself is a perfect cover lol.

I thought we said that discussion was good for the town, so I tie would be good

Unvote: CR
Vote: CountArach