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It is as elite ferret said. I protected TC this night because I was sure that someone would try and kill him, and EF protected me. We found out each others identity after protecting Fahad I. I did not want to tell the town this because now that the mafia know, we are probably just going to mutually protect. I recommend getting one of us in second place every turn so we can soak up an attack from the grim reaper guy.
In that respect:
Vote: BananaBob
Unvote:Abstain Vote: Kommodus
If he has this Homes program and is withholding it, I smell something fishy.
I believe TinCow - it seems genuine enough with no abnormalities, impossibilities and is not in a style which indicates mafia behaviour.
I don't believe pevergreen though:I may have missed something, but it seems a little strange that all of a sudden, after another player makes a believable confession, pevergreen uses that as a reason for not saying anything about his role.Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
Looking back on what he's said so far, further arouses my suspicions against him. Short and fairly neutral posts are very mafia like in my opinion.
Henceforth:
Vote: pevergreen
I cant say anything until after 2 more nights at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
TinCow, I thought you were pro-town? Isn't it 100% obvious that you should resurrect someone killed by mafia, in order to be sure to resurrect a pro-town player?
Don't resurrect people that are lynched or killed by you.
EF and BananaBob, please indeed mutually protect, at least for now.
I suggest, Kommodus is lynched, and BananaBob is 2nd lynch. Then you'll lynch a suspicious lurking kommo' and town will know for sure if BananaBob and EF are telling the truth. (if they wouldn't be doctors, they wouldn't be protected, because the real doctor know they're lying, so then bananabob'd die, and that's fine. if they're really doctor, all will be ok)
I believe TinCow.
so, seems like there's no serial killer (thrid party) purely town vs. mafia
and I suspect that the '2nd lynch killer' doens't exist. it's probably just kami himself.
btw, TinCow, do you know more about Pever?
Edit:
gah! there was some discussion about this ealier, I think, - was fahad protected by 1 or 2 doctors? if by 1, EF and bananabob are lying. still reason to put them on 2nd lynch spot, though..
make sure that he is second by a fair few votes though, otherwise the mafia can put him in the lead and he will be lynched.Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
vote:Kommodus
Like I said, I am completely willing to let the town choose who I resurrect for me. So far I haven't gotten much input on that. If the town can reach a consensus on the matter, I will simply go with their choices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Drisos
Vote: Kommodus
I don't like the votes going on BananaBob, because I believe him. As I stated before, I also believe pever and think that he should be given at least a little while longer to prove himself. So, I'm voting Kommodus simply because he's the other current contender for the noose. He told me privately that he is in contact with other pro-town players. If those players would like to come forward publicly or PM me privately to vouch for him, I would be willing to change my vote.
The Hydra and Cerebus protected Fahad, then the Cerebus protected the hydraQuote:
Originally Posted by Drisos
FoS:
TinCow & pevergreen
Rationale:
Maybe its just the gamehost in me, but their claimed roles are too bloody (TinCow) or too delayed (pever) to make sense to me.
TinCow as "Hades" must kill 10% of the town (original goal was 40 players, though we started with 38) in order to generate a pro-town power. :inquisitive: Plus, he chooses Drisos -- who was arguing well and bringing up clear points for discussion/analysis -- as his 4th and triggereing target. :inquisitive: Certainly not impossible, but strains credulity.
pevergreen has a power/role that will gain its benefit only after two MORE days -- 6 nights at 3 kills/night? :inquisitive: Can ressurect only after two "off" nights -- in a 3 kill per night game? :inquisitive: Less implausible than TinCow's "role," buy again, strains credulity.
So far, I'm not buying it.
Vote: TinCow
vote: caius
Scummy lurker who hasn't said anything and votes abstain before wogs
As I said, Drisos was the choice of the other people I was consulting with, he was not my own pick. My preference was for a WoG kill, but the WoGs were unexpectedly killed off after the day phase, not the night phase, so I wasn't able to do that. The other people I was conferring with didn't like Drisos' posts, so they suggested him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
If I am lying, then I won't be able to resurrect 2 people tonight. If you don't think I'm sincere, then why don't you suggest who I should resurrect? In any case, it is now impossible for me to kill without the rest of the town knowing about it. The signature on my kills is consistent and easily identifiable. The connection was even noticed before I revealed. It is interesting that you want to lynch me, even though you will have absolute proof if I ever kill anyone that the town did not approve of first.
Tell us who you were conversing with now that the doctors have revealed as well. If you don't want to give names, give roles so we can verify.
And you could have killed Caius who seems a scummy lurker instead of active Drisos if you were going after WoGs.
what I don't like is all this demand for information coming from everyone. How can we trust you? You could quite easily be mafia and are just making sure you will be killing the right people.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAQuote:
Originally Posted by Elite Ferret
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
:dizzy2:
You say Caius is scummy. Other people say Drisos is scummy. Still other people say Andres is scummy. Several also say I am scummy. No matter who I picked, someone was going to disagree with it. There was no perfect choice that would have made everyone happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by FactionHeir
The people I was conversing with were a role blocker, a townie, and a third role that is a bit strange. The role blocker has proven his abilities to me and the other people. He is my initial contact who dropped the hint at the beginning of the game. The townie hasn't proven anything, but he seems legit so far. The third role I will not talk about right now.
The four of us have been using a quicktopics message board to communicate. I think the other three will agree to let the doctors have the link to that board, since we're pretty positive about their identity. If we did this and the doctors then reported back that what we were saying was true (without giving names of the other three people), would that help?
EF+BananaBob- I believe them. The roles seem believable and if they were mafia than a real doctor would step up and say so.
Tincow- The role is slightly less believable(very powerful, plus how can there be a Hades and a Lord Kamikhaan?) but still plausible. His easily identifiable signature and the possibility of a double resurection tonight are worth the risk of keeping him alive one more night.
pevergreen- Yeah right, not entirely buying another powertown role claim without some proof. I'm eagerly awaiting a Holmes result on you.
Kommodus- I'll wait for his trademark analysis before I make a descision on him.
Sigurd- The voodoo ressurection has me wondering about what side you are now on but it isn't something I'm real worried about for now.
Rythmic- I'm guessing that he's a townie. He puts in a lot of effort into analyzing the situation which I wouldn't expect from a noob mafioso.
Caius- pops in, votes Abstain, and then dances off into the darkness. I don't like it.
So for now... Vote: Caius... Until we get a look at Holmes.
:inquisitive: you must be mafiaQuote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
Nope, it's just if you didn't want to be killed by the mafia, you should have never revealed yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elite Ferret
My associates agree that I should resurrect only people confirmed to have been killed by mafia. Since I have heard similar sentiments in here and no one has given me advice about specific people, I propose to resurrect the following people: shlin28 (killed by mafia on N1) and gibsonsg91921 (killed by mafia on N2).
Please speak up if you disagree with either of these choices.
I think the ressurection should be saved for now. That we we could ressurect good pro-town roles rather than just townies. (eg me :P or bananabob or the detective) If it can only happen once it should not be wasted just to prove your innocence.
How sure are/were you they are pro-town??!!:dizzy2: :wall:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Indeed, TC, you were trying to pick those with few value for town, and perhaps even mafia. Caius is lurking+abstaining.. not valueable for town at all, and maybe mafia. If I would've been mafia if would've been loads easier to tell in the long run, because I've been constant joining the discussion, thus, exposing myself.Quote:
And you could have killed Caius who seems a scummy lurker instead of active Drisos if you were going after WoGs.
now, I don't really mind my death, since I have no special/strong role like all of you guys ~;p I'll join Kommo's 'normal town' club. :laugh4: oh gah, I forgot, kommo's suspicious, ah well. normal mafia is still more normal than TC's role and Pever's claim.
TC, go ahead and resurrect shlin. this will give us proof of your resurrection capabilities as well.. I'm however very doubtful if you are really a pro-town role.. :book:
As I said, the wording of the ability indicates that the people will lose any abilities they previously had. Waiting to resurrect pro-town roles would be a waste, because they wouldn't be able to do anything afterwards. In addition, we now have two doctors to protect in addition to myself. It's impossible for all three of us to be protected each night. If I do not use my resurrection immediately, there is a chance I will be killed before I can use it.
Your resurrection choices seem sound, either of those two or possibly Ichigo.
Now I'm not sure why everyone is voting Kommo if Caius seems the best current target.
Vote: Caius
Agreed
Unvote: Kommodus
Vote: Caius
Though for the record I would still like to hear from these supposed pro-town contacts that Kommodus claims to have.
It's good to see someone remembers me. :beam:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rythmic
TinCow, so you create a garanteed townie if you resurrect someone? Then, may I suggest you pick me? You'll have you garantee that I'm town then, and I'll get my voting ability back! :beam: :2thumbsup:
Ouch. That was pretty costly for a dumb joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
:sweatdrop:
Wait a second. Something about TinCow's claim just set alarm bells off.
TinCow claims that he had to kill off four people in order to resurrect two. Okay, sounds cool - if the two people that he resurrected were power town. But, as he himself states, the people he resurrects lose whatever powers they have, essentially becoming normal townies.
So, in essence, TinCow has provided us with -2 townies.
Now, there is the possibility that he could, of course, killed the mafia, in which case it would have been worth it, but so far he has killed based on revenge from Capo II, one suspicious comment made earlier on in the game that wasn't followed up with anything, inactivity, and advice from his contacts.
This doesn't fly with me.
Unvote: Kommodus
Vote: TinCow
I believe this issue needs to be discussed more in-depth.
As I stated before, I didn't know what my extra ability would be until after N4. The wording indicated something powerful, and after I saw a resurrection occur I thought it would be the option to resurrect one per night. I was kind of disappointed that it was a one-off two person resurrection. As you point out, it was probably not worth my kills. However, I didn't know that at the beginning of the game.