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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
On the contrary, I have no intention of lamely proving my innocence any sooner than necessary.
Post 271
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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I'm not terribly surprised to be under lynch threat today given last game...I can confirm my innocence by tomorrow though, so I'd appreciate some unvotes.
Obviously this was said with the intention of using it to get out of being lynched. I believe (as do most of the other players, correct me if I'm wrong guys) that we let you live under the impression that this was to be revealed tomorrow.
So what gives? Again you're putting off the information, trying to stay alive. Also, you're now saying that townies should kick and scream when the heat's on them, trying to stay alive, something which I've NEVER seen you say in prior games. Before it was "townies should be willing to take one for the team."
You've got me convinced that you're guilty. Good luck trying to sway the rest of the town.
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Actually, if you bother to check I have quite often said townies should do their utmost to defend myself and have done so.
I don't believe anyone has made an argument against me.
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Then why do you have to clear your name?
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Vote:greaterkhaan
Bandwagon vote using others reasoning. His response to my questions is very accomodating, but I'm inclined to see that as a mafia tell rather than a town tell.
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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
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Originally Posted by CountArach
Then why do you have to clear your name?
I don't ~:confused:
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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Actually, if you bother to check I have quite often said townies should do their utmost to defend myself and have done so.
I don't believe anyone has made an argument against me.
Then find the posts yourself and put them down here. I'm not the one who needs to stay alive.
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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I don't ~:confused:
Then why are you so insistent on us not voting you until tomorrow?
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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
God damnit, stop changing your votes. :wall:
Also, Sasaki are you saying you have a role? That'll get you murdered if your not mafia, seems a bit strange to role claim when you've only got a couple of votes.
Vote Count (as of #523);
Tran - 5 (sapi, HughT, Greaterkhaan, stig, CountA)
Ichigo - 3 (pever, Tran, disco)
CountA - 2 (Ichi, DoH)
Stig - 1 (Sigurd)
Twilightblade - 1 (Killfr3nzy)
Sasaki - 1 (kage)
Myrddraal - 1 (Caius)
Dutch_Guy - 1 (RoadKill)
Greaterkhaan - 1 (Sasaki)
Caius - 1 (Seamus)
^RVTL = What the hell does this mean? I counted it as a vote.
Why the hell are we voting Ichigo again?
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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
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^RVTL = What the hell does this mean? I counted it as a vote.
Its a vote.
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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Vote:greaterkhaan
Bandwagon vote using others reasoning. His response to my questions is very accomodating, but I'm inclined to see that as a mafia tell rather than a town tell.
Ahh, I see. You're saying we should all vote for each other until everyone has only one vote on them apiece. That way we can make sure there's no bandwagoning. We can't ever agree with anyone else's reasons and give a second vote to someone, cause after all, that would be bandwagoning, according to you.
Seriously, I would first like to point out that I was only the third person to vote Tran(out of 5). Second, you seem to be expecting me to produce some sort of miracle evidence that proves without doubt that my suspect is guilty. My suspect is just that, a suspect. I have no perfect, irrefutable evidence of someone being a mafioso. I doubt anyone does. I just have suspicions, which I already explained.
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Seriously, I would first like to point out that I was only the third person to vote Tran(out of 5).
Take it away, Sigurd.
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Vote: Caius Flaminius
--Failed to bold this earlier.
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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
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Originally Posted by Dutch_guy
I find it interesting how you can gather that out of the post you quoted, I am impressed - I daresay even Sasaki himself could have spun it that far around.
:balloon2:
So what your telling me is that you actully are the mafia, and I was good enough like Sasaki to catch you?
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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
I think he was being sarcastic.
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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
Voting closed. Tran has been lynched.
As before, I'll put the story up later. However, the third night phase has begun. PMs please! :2thumbsup:
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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
A late unvote:greaterkhan in response to his latest post.
for gh
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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
Common law ≠ mafia games.
For all the time you've spent dodging and avoiding my allegations, it could have been time actually responding to them.
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Lynch him and worry about such things later.
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God, just cause I had you two killed there's no reason to be miffy.
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Hmmm I maybe acting strange, but there's a couple of zombies that really want you dead. :laugh4:
I've spent the last 20 minutes trying to read this thread, and I can't get into the chat. :bigcry:
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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
Yet again I've missed all the discussion. :sad:
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Ive done that sooo many times i cant find an opening to post in
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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
Then what are your thoughts thus far Twilightblade?
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Bah! By lynching me the townies have chosen to seal their own fate...especially all folks who had deliberately voted me...
Kudos to Sasaki for doing the right thing, may he survive the madness...
**shoots the crowd and runs as fast as possible into the nearby forest**
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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
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Originally Posted by Tran
Bah! By lynching me the townies have chosen to seal their own fate...especially all folks who had deliberately voted me...
Kudos to Sasaki for doing the right thing, may he survive the madness...
**shoots the crowd and runs as fast as possible into the nearby forest**
You tried to bandwagon me...:inquisitive:
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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
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Originally Posted by Tran
Bah! By lynching me the townies have chosen to seal their own fate...especially all folks who had deliberately voted me...
Kudos to Sasaki for doing the right thing, may he survive the madness...
**shoots the crowd and runs as fast as possible into the nearby forest**
Who are you suggesting accidentally voted for you?
Re: the townie defending themselves thing.
Of course, we want people to defend themselves against accusations & lynch votes - that's one of the core reasons for putting a lynch vote on somone. BUT, trying only to stay 'alive' by tactically voting someone to save yourself is not helpful, & merely makes you look more guilty. In Tran's case, his refusal to put forward a coherent defense & his tactical voting resulted in his lynching.
Right, I think some of the quiet 'uns should come foward & say 'Hi'. Myrdd? Ignoramus? Deathfire? Is anyone home?
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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
God, just cause I had you two killed there's no reason to be miffy.
Did you mean? that you got GH and the other dude killed?
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Re: Cosa Nuova II: The Cult of the Cosa Nuova
Day 2
As the people of Gisenyi once again gathered in the grassy field south of town to convene the court of Gacaca, the confusion that permeated their discussion was even greater than on the previous afternoon. Back then it had been simple – the Interahamwe, the great enemy of peace and reconciliation in Rwanda, had carried its guerilla war into their midst. This had been bad, of course, but at least it was a familiar enemy – one that they knew how to deal with.
The knowledge (or suspicion) the well-known terror group was not responsible for the recent deaths thrust them into darkness and ignorance. What monsters had infiltrated their town? Even the means used to kill were shrouded in mystery. Rumors and speculation were rife – a serial killer, a group of mercenaries, or perhaps a criminal organization. None of this, however, prepared them for the announcement made by the mayor just as the proceedings began.
“My friends,” he said, “If we are to defeat this threat we face, I must ask each of you for full disclosure. Keep back nothing that you know, no matter how insignificant it may seem. In that spirit, I have something to tell you.”
He reached into his shirt pocket and drew out a folded sheet of paper. Unfolding it, he continued.
“So far you have seen only the mysterious rock messages. However, it seems the individual leaving them has given me a little more information. I found this in my office this morning. Unfortunately we have no clues as to its author, but perhaps it will help in our investigations.” He looked down and began to read.
“The organization attacking you is known as the Cosa Nuova, a rogue branch of the Mafia. They are very dangerous and must be dealt with as quickly as possible. I will provide more information when I have it. Signed, a friend.”
The mayor folded up the paper and returned it to his shirt pocket. “My staff has done some research since then,” he said. “The Cosa Nuova is a criminal political organization. Whatever they are here for, it goes far beyond simple killing and terror.” Shaking his head gravely, he said, “Friends, for the first time in my life I wish we were dealing with the Interahamwe.”
As on the previous night, he melted into the circle of people, signifying that the proceedings were now open.
The knowledge of this new threat appeared to redirect the focus of the discussions. This time the focus was on villagers who appeared to exhibit suspicious behavior – and especially those who were relative newcomers to the town. One such individual, a man named Tran, found himself the target of a veritable inquisition. It was his behavior during Gacaca itself that drew the ire of his countrymen.
“I’m not familiar with the customs here!” he tried to explain. “I was asked to come here and help achieve justice. That’s all I’m doing, I swear!”
His pleadings, however, met only with disapproving glares from the people. He was accused of inconsistencies, of lies, and of deliberately attempting to see to it that innocent people were lynched.
For a time suspicion was also thrown in other directions, but at last it became clear that Tran was the popular choice as the guilty party. As he was forced into the center of the circle and a machete was prepared, he at last accepted his fate.
Mayor Rwigema gave the signal, and Tran was forced to his knees. “Is there anything else you wish to say before the end, Tran?” he asked.
Tran simply gazed up at the sky fatalistically. “Why is it that, when faced with a terrible external threat, people turn against their own?” he mused to no one in particular. “The very powers of the universe, it seems, are against us.”
He became silent, and the machete stroke fell. For the second straight night, the Gacaca court was concluded.
Vote Count
Tran: 5 (CountArach, greaterkhaan, HughTower, sapi, Stig)
Ichigo: 3 (discovery1, pevergreen, Tran)
CountArach: 2 (Destroyer of Hope, Ichigo)
Caius Flaminius: 1 (Seamus Fermanagh)
Dutch_guy: 1 (RoadKill)
greaterkhaan: 1 (Sasaki Kojiro)
Myrddraal: 1 (Caius Flaminius) (P.S. Use the correct voting procedures please! I don’t automatically know what RVTL means.)
Sasaki Kojiro: 1 (Kagemusha)
TwilightBlade: 1 (Killfr3nzy)
Not Voting: 10 (AndresTheCunning, Dutch_guy, Ignoramus, Motep, Myrddraal, Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot, TwilightBlade, Warmaster Horus, Xdeathfire, Xehh II)
Status List
Murdered
BlackAxe3001
GeneralHankerchief
Crazed Rabbit
rdece.jabolko
Lynched
Warluster
Tran
Still Alive
AndresTheCunning
Caius Flaminius
CountArach
Destroyer of Hope
discovery1
Dutch_guy
greaterkhaan
HughTower
Ichigo
Ignoramus
Kagemusha
Killfr3nzy
Motep
Myrddraal
Omanes Alexandrapolites the Idiot
pevergreen
RoadKill
sapi
Sasaki Kojiro
Seamus Fermanagh
Sigurd Fafnesbane
Stig
TwilightBlade
Warmaster Horus
Xdeathfire
Xehh II