The tally in #471 lists sequential voting by nominee.
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The tally in #471 lists sequential voting by nominee.
I was talking about 497.
Discussing about wagons and such now just makes such a hassle, because you have to go back and find the actual posts and time stamps in order to get the order of votes on a person. But I guess we just have to live with it.
I doubt there were many scums bussing D1. I'd say one, maybe two at most. (on DP I mean)
Resolution post for day 1 has been Updated.
Trying to set a timer, no promises it's working
If someone could PM me with an explanation of how to link a specific thread in a post (so I can annotate resolution posts in the front of the thread) that would also be appreciated.
Yeah that didn't work. Would appreciate help on that as well :P
I might fiddle around with that, though it will add a decent amount to my workload (have to track time of post as well as the vote). In past games I've hosted I've had a wonderful tool to make use of, sadly I don't have that here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sooh
Lose the underscore in your end bracket and it should work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jabbz
I think it might have gotten worse :P
Permission to edit your post to figure it out?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jabbz
Two out of 3 or 4 sounds good enough for "many" to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sooh
Jabbz, you already keep a separate list of vote changes; interpolate that into the regular tally, and sequential order becomes easier.
What I've done in the past is use an excel sheet, then put the post the vote was made along with the vote itself in a table. Then you can sort by the post number column from smallest to largest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jabbz
Nice job on DP.
Having not read anything prior to the flip, I'm just guessing, but he's probably a wolf who didn't want to vote another wolf. That might be wanting more than guessing though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Choxorn
Oh, I thought I already addressed that one. Time passed and I liked GH's posts after that. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sooh
Wouldn't break your back to simply repeat the question if it's that important to you. I'm not answering it for me.
Things by DP (leaving out facetious material, which generally went toward Renata):
1. Renata started D1 like this:
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2. And:
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3. To Winston's entrance:
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4. Comments on the Winston-Zack kerfuffle:
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5. To Zack:
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6. To Lewwyn:
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6. To Choxorn voting him:
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7. To GH noting that Al Sipsclar and atheotes have gone inactive:
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8. To Renata complaining about him:
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9. To Renata remarking that all her scum reads are voting each other:
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10. After that came his EOD stuff, which I won't cover except for his initial vote onto Al Sipsclar:
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GrantedQuote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
That is so much easier than what I was thinking of doing. Thank you Zack. This will deff happen for day 2, I might retro do it for day 1 will all edits. I will post if that is what I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by kcaZ
Okay it's what I thought it was. You're using a 24-hour clock (20:00 PM) - you need to use a 12-hour clock (8:00 PM) for it to work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jabbz
Got it. TY.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Yeah, that was what I was thinking, and he switched to Monty right before dp did, and his reasons for voting Monty were kind of odd, like he was trying as hard as he could to avoid voting dp without actually addressing the wagon on dp. He never actually mentioned dp once during the day, despite the fact that Al and DP were the two leading wagons at EoD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Visor
It just sounds like what two scumbuddies would do if they were getting wagoned and wanted to try to shift the momentum onto someone else and hope they could get a townie lynched.
The one hole I can poke in the "Dp/Al Sipsclar both scum" theory is that Dp's exact role name is "corrupted mage", which appears to be your regular garden-variety mafioso as per the OP. If there are power levels amongst the scum team or something along those lines, it's unlikely that Dp would have pushed Al Sips as hard as he did if Al was more useful to the scum team ability-wise.
Of course, if this isn't the case, or if they were both regular corrupted mages, then the above paragraph obviously no longer applies.
I'm guessing, as per usual, that scum can enact both an individual ability and the team kill at the same time; given the role madness setup, it's all but certain.
There could be special abilities unique to the scum, but there are probably also some powers that overlap between scum and town. Alternatively, scum have single defined abilities as is more typical, but for "Corrupted Mages" at least the multiple one-shots mechanic likely applies.
What we probably have to look out for is:
1. Factional bonus kill.
2. Beefed up Mafia godfather/don/grandmaster, who will likely be able to at minimum counter most town night actions against him - maybe even against his team to some extent.
3. Maybe, if Zack is town and not lying, and Jabbz has offered at least one instance of a "lynchproof" ability to town, then I would venture the Mafia have a factional lynchproof shot, or the grandmaster has innate lynchproof one-shot or until some conditions are met.
Anyone who could take a look at the precursor game Jabbz hosted, shed some light on the above.
Hey, did Jabbz say there's no cult-like recruitment in this game?
I think it's >rand that Dp, still being a relatively new player/mafioso, wouldn't interact with/comment on his scumbuddies as much as he would regular townies.
Per Monty's list (don't feel like going back over Dp's posts right now, maybe tomorrow), this gives a small boost to:
Renata
Winston
Zack
Lewwyn
Choxorn
GH
(though full disclosure, I think the question he asked me about Al Sips/atheotes is something that a mafioso is likely to ask his partner, it's super neutral but yet still appears to be solve-y - though obviously I'm not dissecting it further because I'm town)
Just "no bastard elements" - but I think that's stupid crap like jokers, etc. than cults. Can't rule it out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency
edit to the above, that should read "that's *more stupid crap like jokers, etc"Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Unadvertised cults are stupid crap, IMO.
Advertised Cults are still stupid crap, IMO.
Did I ever switch for self-pres, in any game? Re-read again, I already explained: I didn't mind being lynched, seeing myself as a weak point for the town. I prefer to be mislynched earlier than in the endgame. I also didn't want to condemn DP, who I thought was more townie than me, to prolong my sufferings. Unless I can vote for someone I convinced is scum, I don't believe I should self-pres.Quote:
Originally Posted by Choxorn
Besides, DP didn't hesitate to vote me, his supposed teammate, why would I have any reservations to vote him, especially if it could be easily explained by self-pres? Me, who easily bussed GH and Pizza when we were the scum together in the Confection game?
I wanted to test Pizza's D1 strategy of multiple length 2 wagons, and Monty was a suitable candidate with a single vote on him when I was writing my post.
Dp was flailing, and switched to Monty because Zack and I just voted Monty. I didn't care about any wagon longer than two, Dp's or my own wagons included.Quote:
Originally Posted by Choxorn
My official leans list:
Monty ---- 100%
Al Sipsclar
Chox
Lewwyn
Arakhor
---- 75%
Snerk
Csargo
Sooh
Visor
Atheotes
---- 50~60%
BSmith
Renata
Zack
GH
Winston
---- 33%
Cults, Jokers, Millers and their ilk, Confused and or paranoid cop/fbi/seer/etc, are all bastard elements in my book. Further I will not tell you things that are false, as that is also a bastard move.
what a weird listQuote:
Originally Posted by Montmorency