Pokemon Nuzlocke FireRed Mafia [Concluded]

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

Sure, we'll figure it out. You'll have nothing to worry about.

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See, you say that, but I need to know before I die.

Because I will die at EOD.


And I'm LOCK VILLA.

Ah well, in that case I have no use for you.

My sincere condolences to your loved ones.

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Originally Posted by Manasi

I was poisoned last night.

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What is/was the effect of the poisoning?

Bit of an x-post there. If you don't get cured you die at EOD? Is that the net effect?

Trying to catch up, but here is my thinking through post #500

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Originally Posted by El Barto

May I ask what were the reasons for voting in favour of the lynching of Monsieur Montmorency yesterday?

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I'd rather not repeat myself, but may I direct you to my case here?

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Originally Posted by Raith Kemmler

Would agree with all this. Strangely don't like the Mont wagon though despite shady read. Seems like a fool's train. Not really hairy, but like it went in the lead almost incidentally.

To GH about meta question: Off the brief posters, they just stood on in my mind. Csargo mores from past difficulty reading him.

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Monty is scummy, but he's not scummy because he is in the lead? What gives?

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

...No, because I never said anything to Logic about answering for others?

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You are going to have to clarify this statement, because it looks like a direct contradiction of this one:

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

What do you think of cuth answering for you?

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Originally Posted by Champ

I don't like manasi
Vote: Manasi

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Originally Posted by Champ

i feel like she doesnt want to be here and isnt enjoying herself
she loves being town and her lack of engagement is nagl
i dont like khaan i just dont think hes the best lynch

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Manasi is less active than in French Rev, but this feels less like a valid read on her, and more like a desperate cover.
Not liking these posts by Champ.

My wolf leans:
Monty
Champ
Severing Viper
Raith Kemmler

My Town leans:
Sooh
Autolycus (mostly because he agreed with my Monty vote, but not in so many words)
Manasi

Everyone not mentioned I haven't spent a lot of time analyzing their posts. Expect another update around 10:30 AM PST.

Also, I suspect that all the plain ol' vanilla's are the Magikarps, and that one of us will evolve into the Gyrados once certain conditions are met. This is just speculation on my part.

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Originally Posted by Logic

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

...No, because I never said anything to Logic about answering for others?

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You are going to have to clarify this statement, because it looks like a direct contradiction of this one:

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

What do you think of cuth answering for you?

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Really?

And was that anything related to accusing you of getting in the way of questions?

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Originally Posted by Logic

Trying to catch up, but here is my thinking through post #500


I'd rather not repeat myself, but may I direct you to my case here?

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You may want to update those points.


So, Logic-Sooh or GH-Choxorn for mafs?

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Originally Posted by novice

One of whom could easily be scum.

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Which one though? In a field of 3 who claim the same, who would you trust? The first who claimed and so specifically? The counterclaim? The second counterclaim?

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Originally Posted by BSmith

Bit of an x-post there. If you don't get cured you die at EOD? Is that the net effect?

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Yeah, that's my understanding.

Someone plz heal me ahh

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

Really?

And was that anything related to accusing you of getting in the way of questions?

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I think I don't understand your question as worded. Care to clarify?

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

You may want to update those points.


So, Logic-Sooh or GH-Choxorn for mafs?

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You do realize I was responding to this question, right?

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Originally Posted by El Barto

May I ask what were the reasons for voting in favour of the lynching of Monsieur Montmorency yesterday?

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Barto asked why I voted for Monty the day prior, and I stated my reasoning.



As for GH:

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

20 minutes to go.

I really don't like that novice just left his last post hanging out there without attaching of an opinion of his own to it, but I'll give my own: I don't like the Monty wagon nor the people on it (khaan's vote is understandable but I'm independently suspicious of him), and I don't think he should be the lynch today.

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Ok, so GH doesn't think Monty is a good lynch, and then calls everyone on it suspicious. Is he
"clearing" wolf-buddy Monty? That's the vibe I get from this.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

Viper is surprisingly hacked off. So what exactly he gonna counterclaim? He track GH somewhere?

Just saying for if we ever have a need to put him down: we knew he was a snake!

Tougher sell than I imagined you would try, Viper. This is a role game. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now.

Because it lets you off the hook?! bob ross

I didn't trust your evaluation. If Khaan indeed only pulled a single character shtick in over a year, then calling either the lack of a character shtick concerning or the explanation of a lack of a character shtick inconsistent is clearly fishing. For murder!

He pushed a precarious case against Khaan. The roleblock is just what needed to be done. Our enemies are preparing us a cruel design.

I'm not sure how to interpret this.

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Meanwhile, Monty is pushing GH. Distancing from wolf-buddy vibe.

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Originally Posted by Logic

Also, I suspect that all the plain ol' vanilla's are the Magikarps, and that one of us will evolve into the Gyrados once certain conditions are met. This is just speculation on my part.

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This post makes me strongly suspect logic is vanilla town, based on the phrasing of my role pm.

Monty, SV and Sooh all claim roleblocker, with Monty claiming to have used his on GH. GH has not claimed to have been affected by this in any way, as he has yet to post this phase.

Manasi claims poisoned vanilla, and we have one dead poisoner, so I'm inclined to believe that Cuth is our culprit here.

I'm not getting any strong read on anyone not mentioned in my last 4 posts.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

So, Logic-Sooh or GH-Choxorn for mafs?

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Would you agree that Choxorn being mafia could reflect on you?

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Originally Posted by Logic

I think I don't understand your question as worded. Care to clarify?

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Those statements don't contradict themselves as the latter (as quoted) statement was not criticizing you for answering for others, which was the context of the former. Wasn't that clear?

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Originally Posted by Logic

You do realize I was responding to this question, right?
Barto asked why I voted for Monty the day prior, and I stated my reasoning.

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You can't weasel away that easy, to fiddle at a different angle.

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As for GH:
Ok, so GH doesn't think Monty is a good lynch, and then calls everyone on it suspicious. Is he
"clearing" wolf-buddy Monty? That's the vibe I get from this.

Meanwhile, Monty is pushing GH. Distancing from wolf-buddy vibe.

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So vote GH, you coward.

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Originally Posted by Jabbz

This post makes me strongly suspect logic is vanilla town, based on the phrasing of my role pm.

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No idea what you mean. But Pizza doesn't want us to discuss Role PMs as such in any further terms.

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Originally Posted by SeveringViper

Would you agree that Choxorn being mafia could reflect on you?

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We will deal with it if we come to it. In the Democracy game I alluded to for your edification, I hard-defended Choxorn and then he flipped scum at lynch. Then I hard-defended the next scum to lynch. We got over it and had a good round of drinks. Here? You have seen that I'm minimizing my exposure. But I do still lean town.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

In between those events, I got town GH lynched. But I'm sure I've struck right this time.

Please heal Manasi.

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Originally Posted by Jabbz

This post makes me strongly suspect logic is vanilla town, based on the phrasing of my role pm.

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surely scum have access to the vanilla role PM?

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Originally Posted by Sooh

Which one though? In a field of 3 who claim the same, who would you trust? The first who claimed and so specifically? The counterclaim? The second counterclaim?

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Instinct says the first claim is the fishiest, scum eager to get their safe claim in. Second claim is least fishy because it risks a thunderdome.

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Originally Posted by novice

Please heal Manasi.



surely scum have access to the vanilla role PM?



Instinct says the first claim is the fishiest, scum eager to get their safe claim in. Second claim is least fishy because it risks a thunderdome.

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It's possible. Once I find out if I get slapped by pizza for discussing role PM's even that much I might cover more.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

You can't weasel away that easy, to fiddle at a different angle.

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I answered the question exactly. I'm not weaseling anything.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

So vote GH, you coward.

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Coward? Now that's rather harsh. Incidentally, I wonder what has given you cause to think I am the least bit afraid.
VOTE: Montmorency

"Vote" in caps? Overcompensation. We're onto something here, Pokepeeps.

Okay, let's see where we're at.

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Still feel like Monty's town, though he's obviously misguided in this case and his case on me is pretty bad. That said, I think, just by feel, of the people who have been hounding him on variants of the progression of "I blocked GH > there was still a kill at night > GH is scum" we have one scum in there trying to score easy points by pointing out a fairly obvious fallacy in thinking. On reread this is... Barto (sort of), autolycus, Viper, and BSmith. Let's rule Viper out, he appears to be genuine. Barto's was super early and didn't really point at Monty, just noted the error in Monty's reasoning. This leaves auto and BSmith.

Csargo also gets a townread for a mindmeld with me on this being not too terribly out of character for Monty.

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Jabbz, my case on khaan wasn't bad, stop shading me for it. He was a third-party role and his behavior was probably subtle altered because of it.

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Manasi, why didn't you claim being poisoned at the start of the phase?

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Logic's Monty vote just now looks weird.

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Vote: autolycus

PARTICIPATION NOTICE: Starting in about 24 hours, I will have extremely limited-to-no access to the game until Monday evening. Will try to keep up during that time but no promises.

To be clear, I'm not trying to lynch you because I blocked you. I blocked you because I want to lynch you. For what you said and did to Khaan.

Edit to post 560, "subtle altered" should read "subtly altered".

And Monty, the same goes for you. The case was not bad.

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Originally Posted by Jabbz

It's possible. Once I find out if I get slapped by pizza for discussing role PM's even that much I might cover more.

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ATPG is going to slap you no matter what you do, cannot escape.

Logic did Monty strike a nerve?

Gh votes auto, noted. Why auto over BSmith? Their mo's are basically the same.

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Originally Posted by Csargo

ATPG is going to slap you no matter what you do, cannot escape.

Logic did Monty strike a nerve?

Gh votes auto, noted. Why auto over BSmith? Their mo's are basically the same.

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No real reason, maybe unconsciously pressuring auto to post more since BSmith's already pled RL (and I believe him).

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

No real reason, maybe unconsciously pressuring auto to post more since BSmith's already pled RL (and I believe him).

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Auto doesn't respond to pressure though does he? Stoic lurker.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

To be clear, I'm not trying to lynch you because I blocked you. I blocked you because I want to lynch you. For what you said and did to Khaan.

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Wait What? Is your entire read based on Khaan? I thought you had some clever insight, I wasn't seeing...

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Originally Posted by Csargo

Logic did Monty strike a nerve?

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I am not used to name calling in games of Mafia/Werewolf, so the "Coward" comment caught me off guard. However, my caps "VOTE" was not intended to be anything of note. I'm not sure how or why I wrote that out in all caps.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Manasi, why didn't you claim being poisoned at the start of the phase?

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That is a good question. I hadn't considered that before you mentioned it.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Logic's Monty vote just now looks weird.

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My vote earlier vote from the prior day now looks weird, or my current vote looks weird?

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Originally Posted by Logic

I am not used to name calling in games of Mafia/Werewolf, so the "Coward" comment caught me off guard. However, my caps "VOTE" was not intended to be anything of note. I'm not sure how or why I wrote that out in all caps.

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Understandable, I think. Monty definitely needs to relax.