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I think that kinda makes sence after the edit . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/rolleyes.gif
Guys , fun is the objective and the source of this project
and thread . So try to look on the bright side if you can.
Plus staying on topic helps . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif
Thanks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif
LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/smokin.gif
sorry if I went a bit off topic and got angry... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
I just hope that the swedes will be in the final release kinda like... blue and yellow... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif
I'm here, I'm here, thought I heard Sweden http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gifQuote:
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Sorry for not making anything useful, but I never figured out what to do with the pics I got. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/dizzy.gif
I would really love to work on the swedes, just tell me what you want me to do (involving uniforms & computers preferable).
Btw Lazul, his name was Charles XIV John, (Karl XIV (14) Johan), Jean Baptiste Bernadotte before he moved here. King between 1818 and 1844.
Another thing, Norway belonged to Denmark until 1814, and from then until 1905 it belonged to Sweden.
oh yeah, thanx.. you are so right hehe
And im suposed to be a swede http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/smile.gif
But did Sweden really control whole norway? wasnt it just some northern parts of the counrty?
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Well the intenion is that Norway will start off
as being Danish . How long that state of affairs
lasts , will be up to you. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
Axel The topic did remind me of you http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/smile.gif
Give me a few days as we are a bit preoccupied
with text files at the moment . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/dizzy.gif
I'll send you some more info on how
you could help with the sprites.
You have to keep at me or I'll forget . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/dizzy.gif
I could make notes but then I'd have to read them . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif
Regards
LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/smokin.gif
Yep we did. Officially it was an union, but in reality Norway was controlled by Sweden.Quote:
Originally Posted by [b
Much like the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
You probably think of Trondheim (Trøndelag today I think), which Sweden got at the peace at Roskilde 1658, together with Bohuslän, Skåne, Blekinge, Halland and Bornholm. Although Charles X (Karl X) lost Trondheim and Bornholm again at Copenhagen (Köpenhamn) 1660.
"I freden i Kiel 1814 avträdde den danske kungen Norge till Sverige, vilket norrmännen vägrade acceptera. Den 17 maj antog en folkvald riksförsamling på Eidsvoll en författning (till minne av denna händelse firas Norges nationaldag) och valde den danske prinsen Kristian Fredrik till norsk kung. Den svenske kronprinsen Karl Johan svarade med krig, varvid Norge snabbt besegrades. Sedan Sverige godtagit Eidsvollförfattningen ingicks en union mellan Sverige och Norge under den svenske kungen Karl XIII (i Norge Karl II)."
"Förhållandet till Sverige var länge gott, särskilt under skandinavismens tid och när Ryssland uppfattades som ett gemensamt hot. Då och då uppstod problem, t.ex. när Karl XV mot ingångna löften inte kunde avskaffa ståthållarämbetet i Kristiania (ståthållarstriden 1859-60). De verkliga motsättningarna framträdde dock först mot slutet av seklet under intryck av de sociala och politiska förändringarna. Norge var nu betydligt mer radikalt och demokratiskt än Sverige, och Venstre eftersträvade full självständighet. Från 1892 krävde Venstre ett eget norskt konsulatväsen, vilket den svenska regeringen bestämt motarbetade. Den s.k. konsulatfrågan ledde till en slutlig brytning 1904, då norrmännen enigt (enligt en folkomröstning året därpå över 99,9 % av befolkningen) ställde sig bakom kravet på självständighet. Den 7 juni 1905 förklarade Stortinget att Oscar II inte längre var att betrakta som norsk kung. Risken för krig var överhängande, men efter förhandlingar i Karlstad i augusti-september upplöstes unionen fredligt. Den danske prinsen Karl valdes till norsk kung med namnet Håkon VII."
("Norge." Microsoft® Encarta® Uppslagsverk 2001. © 1993-2000 Microsoft Corporation. Med ensamrätt.)
Aha... det förklarar en hel del http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/smile.gif tackar landsman http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif
Easy for you to say http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif
Hey all that says
"Give Lancer6969 a million dollars"
a lot of times.
I wish I had those letters on my KB.
BTW...is this mod going to be done before the release of Rome Total War? If not, that wouldn't be good, since most will be swaying towards RTW by then. I will be, hope the mod comes soon for my sake, I wanna be able to play it.
Well that depends on when RTW is released . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by [b
The nap mod will be released when it works properly
and not before . The beta testers are still waiting
to test it . They should have started already but
some files were not in sync and caused us to
reorganize some stuff . I did not know that would happen when the scedual was made last week .I did account for it
though . That's why you do not have a release date and
will not get one untill the day we are happy it works .
I'm not saying that it will not get released untill
all the bells and whistles are added ,but it will have to be at a stage that the file structure is intact and
can be upgraded without redoing the whole thing if pos .
Another factor which must be considered is that ,
over the last couple of months many members of the team
have been away dealing with a thing called real life.
Things like vacations , illness , death , birth
and work that pays money , have been the main reasons
this mod has had any delays .
We are doing this because we want to so it will get done
that's all I know .So spare a tought for the poor guy's
that are tring to make it .
Thanks
Regards,
LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/smokin.gif
Why when I ask a question or tell a statement, must I get a half smartalec post back??? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif LK you are trying to ruin me aren't you.... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/wacko.gif . Anyway, thanks for the reply, I very much hope you get it out ASAP, looking forward to playing it as much as RTW.
By the Way, LK, make sure and post this in the Mod Discriptions in an appropriate manner,lol. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif
Lancer http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/smokin.gif
ps. LK are you from the states? If so you aren't from Lawrence Kansas are you? Lawrence Free State is there, and I figured you were making fun of em with your Elephant Free State, but prolly not, I hated them.
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Apart from the first sentence I was tring to be sincere . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/smile.gifQuote:
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Normally I'm just a smartalec .
Who's tring to ruin to who here http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gifQuote:
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I'm from Ireland but I live in London
in a place called Elephant.
I'v been asked quit a few times so now you know . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
I don't do apropriate , I can't even spell it http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by [b
That will be done by another member of the team ,
or anybody that can do it better than me basicly. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
Thanks http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/pat.gif
LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/smokin.gif
lol@LK
Yes Ux, he's cheeky, rude at times, but with a pinch of salt very funny http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif
In fact it all adds to fun of looking at this thread.
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De Moray
Just wondering: what will be the start and end year of this mod?
Will the start be with napoleon taking power and the end be with hes death?... thats not very long you know http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
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"After Napoleon’s defeat in 1814, Denmark was compelled to sign the Treaty of Kiel, ceding Norway to the king of Sweden—an ally of Britain against France. The Norwegians, however, disavowed the treaty. They declared themselves an independent kingdom, drew up a liberal constitution, and offered the throne to the Danish crown prince Christian Frederick (later Christian VIII of Denmark). The Norwegian move was opposed by the European powers, and, the head of an army, Marshal Jean Bernadotte, later King Charles XIV John, persuaded Norway to accept the Treaty of Kiel. In return for its cooperation, Norway was allowed to retain the newly promulgated constitution. By the Act of Union of 1815, Norway was given its own army, navy, customs, and parliament (Storting), and was permitted full liberty and autonomy within its own boundaries."Quote:
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"When, in 1860, Sweden began to propose revisions in the Act of Union designed to enhance its power, the two greatest Norwegian political parties—the Lawyers Party and the Peasant Party—combined to form the liberal Venstre (Left) Party and blocked the revisions. Led by Johan Sverdrup, president of the Storting, the Norwegian legislature engaged in a long struggle with King Oscar II of Sweden over the issue of whether the king or the Storting would choose the cabinet (executive) in Norway. Under established tradition, the cabinet was responsible only to the Swedish king, giving the crown a permanent veto on legislation. Oscar was forced to yield in 1884, following the impeachment of his members from the Norwegian cabinet and their removal from office. Afterward, Oscar appointed Sverdrup to lead the first government responsible to the Storting, and Norway became a parliamentary democracy.
Once Norway had attained control over executive power, Norwegians demanded their own foreign minister to negotiate on behalf of the country. This was seen in Sweden as a threat to the authority of the king, and Sweden refused to capitulate. As a substitute policy, however, Norway demanded a separate consular service (to regulate Norway’s international economic and commercial relations) and a Norwegian flag for its merchant marine without the symbol of union. The flag was approved by Sweden in 1898, but Sweden balked at the demand for a consular service. Finally, in 1905, led by Prime Minister Christian Michelsen, the Storting declared the union with Sweden dissolved. In a plebiscite in August 1905 the Norwegian people voted overwhelmingly for separation from Sweden. The Swedish Riksdag (legislature) ratified the separation in October. A month later Prince Carl of Denmark accepted the Norwegian crown as Håkon VII."
© 1993-2003 Microsoft Corporation. All Rights Reserved.
Roughly the same article as the one in Swedish, from the US Encarta.
I was thinking about the thing Lazul said earlier, about the years. The uniforms used during the war were, more or less, the old m/1802, changed many times.
Many of the Swedish soldiers down on the continent, "modernized" their uniforms during their stay there, but it wasn't until 1816, when the troops got home, the new uniforms entered service. In 1815 they got shakoes.
http://www.algonet.se/~hogman/symbol/s-reg-uni5.gif m/1810 with Shako.
Uniform m/1816 was the one used to until 1845, with minor changes, this was the uniform that looked best and most "napoleonic".
http://www.algonet.se/~hogman/militaria/trupp_1830.jpg m/1816 in the 1830.
The uniforms of the 19th Century (in Swedish), can be divided into different "periods".
Gustavianska Uniformer (1771-1815):
During the reign of Gustav III, his son and his brother.
Early:
http://www.algonet.se/~hogman/milita..._i_m_m1779.jpg
1815-1845:
During the reign of Charles XIV John (Jean Baptiste Bernadotte).
You've already seen that.
1845-60:
During the reign of Oscar and his followers
http://www.algonet.se/~hogman/milita..._i_m_m1845.jpghttp://www.algonet.se/~hogman/milita..._hat_m1845.jpg Uniform of the lifeguard.
Anyway this period, first half of the 19th century, is in my opinion the most interesting part of the uniform history, especially the 30's.
So how about the pre- and post-napoleonic eras in the mod?
It will a bit longer than that .Quote:
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I'm starting to regret using the word Napoleonic . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
Well at least without putting
"...type" "...style" "vauge resmemblence to ..."
in the title also . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
The mod will start before the Napoleonic Period
so to speak and will go on till the time
of Napoleon III.
I mean his nephew not the third version of the mod . http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
So Balaclava and Solferino will be in the time frame also.
So about as long as it's taking to make. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif
LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/smokin.gif
Axelthorpe
That's the idea , but we have a lot of animations
to add and doing an early and late set for each faction
might not be possible .
LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/smokin.gif
LOLQuote:
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Really...So we should see percusion rifle armed line infantry, right?Quote:
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Let's say I focus on the era I mentioned earlier 1815-1845, that would be ok then?Quote:
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What about those sprites btw? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
Well have a look at the sprites first .Quote:
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Tell me if it's close enough for a Swede. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
Now Lazul told me that if I turn the Danes blue
and yellow they would do as the Swedes .
So what colour should I turn the Swedes to make
them Danish ? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/smokin.gif
No. no, no...Quote:
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You can't make a dane Swedish, never
I know a few of 'em, they can live here for 20 years, without learning a single word Swedish, of course their talk becomes more Swedish (unintentional of course), but come on, 20 years. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif
I feel I'm gonna be popular with the Danish population around here. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
Hmmm... so the uniforms of the swedish and the danish really differed that much?
I thought most countrys had "the same" uniforms (With som small changes) and just had diffrent colour.
I need to know theese things... im going to studdy history in september http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
and Axelthorpe... jepp... those danes are anoying http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif
Now as i understand Sweden might not get in to the mod (please add them )... but what other nations will there be?
AustroHungarians
British
Danish
Dutch
Prussians
Piemontese/Italians ?
Polish (well for a few turns anyway) http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
Portugese
Russians
Spanish
Swedish
Ottomans
These are the inteded factions .
I tought all you guy's spoke Klingön anyway.
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Lets see some mods and then maybe spam would drop a little.
I'm looking for pictures of Russian and Prussian infantrymen, from early 19th century, wearing shakoes.
If anyone got one, please drop me a line.
Thanks
Axl
Here are links for prussian uniforms (and some other countries):
In this link are tons of uniforms (but the images are not very good): http://www.brigade.napoleon-online.d...catalogue.html
Another link: http://www.compagnie-d-elite.de/About_u....Tafel23
Here you find also uniforms of other nations.
Here are other pics of prussians: http://www.fortunecity.com/victori....ht.html
Don´t know if this link is a big help: http://www.angelfire.com/id/macp/prussianinfantry.html
Antalis:: http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
The campaign is comming along .
It works as an addon , although
the default faction names have been used for
the moment .
An install will be made available soon ,
that will let you play a campaign for
150 years with the nap units .
It's very basic but in works so to speak.
Seen as it all has to be redone with the
VI land_reg and faction name format ,
this is all you will get for a couple of weeks .
The format has already been change for the VI setup,
but it has to br implemented . This will be done now
seen as we now our basic model works. So the first version
will be a stop gap for the real thing .
This may be a bit soon to say this as the beta testers
still nedd to report back , but it works me so
what ever problem they will have is with my install.
That will be easy to fix if needs be , so you will have
it soon anyway . Even if you don't like it. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif
Regards
LK http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/smokin.gif