That quote has nothing to do with what Kage said. Nevertheless, Iga and Koga aren't seashore provinces either. Andres has said he doesn't reveal guilt--I don't see too much point in speculation.
Instead, we can talk about Ichigo.
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That quote has nothing to do with what Kage said. Nevertheless, Iga and Koga aren't seashore provinces either. Andres has said he doesn't reveal guilt--I don't see too much point in speculation.
Instead, we can talk about Ichigo.
What is there to talk about Ichigo? EDIT: Also Iga and Koga were the most famous places of their shinobi, but every clan had samurai performing tasks of stealth. Maybe Tincow was from Echigo. The province has large amount of sea shore.
Leave me alone TC - that name discussion is all I've got to contribute. :laugh4: I'd much rather waste my time on something concrete ("concrete" being a relative term) than the WIFOM line of thinking. If WIFOM is the only investigational approach that works in this game, I'll just drink my poison now, thank you very much. :skull:
I smell death in the air as the hour approaches...<sniffs air> Oh, that's just me. :embarassed:
I wonder if im about to die for the second time in mafia game. I hope curse will then deal with the mafia.:bow:
A thousand pardons, RL and other .Org duties are taking up most of my time at the moment.
The sun was about to rise, but suddenly thought better of it and went back to bed...I missed the note about the extented night phase.
Andre will now make his big announcement within 30 minutes.
Clocks have gone forward, so Britain is currently in the GMT+1 timezone.
I hate this clock shifting.
Oops, you´re right.
Continental Europe (my timezone) has GMT +2 at the moment. :creep:
~~~ Swords in the Moon ~~~
Night 6 - Conclusion.
Hour of the Rat
Miyamoto Musashi (Husar) was standing guard at the front door of his masters’ room. 6 nights of guard duty had taken the best of the swordmaster. If it weren’t for the pain in his shoulder, he would probably fall asleep.
Miyamoto grinned uneasily. He should thank the scumbag who had wounded him, since he saved him from the shame of being found sleeping on guard duty.
Nature called and Miyamoto stood up. This moment was exactly what the man hiding in the shadows was waiting for. He sneaked up on Miyamoto and planted his wakizashi in his back. Miyamoto looked down and saw the point of the sharp sword sticking out of his chest.
“For a samurai, there’s no greater honor than to die in the service of his master,” were his last thoughts, before he died and dropped on the floor.
The killer nodded respectfully towards his famous victim and left the scene unnoticed.
~~~
Hour of the Rat
Oota Taiki (Death is yonder) was standing guard at the outside gate. He had been given the questionable honour of being responsible for any outside attacks.
Oota knew for sure nobody was watching him so he could freely shake his head and curse at the stupidity of the idiot who had given him the order to stand guard outside the yashiki.
The mountain passes were blocked with snow and all killers were inside. He sighed. What could he do about it? He was just a young samurai who had to obey orders. Would he become as big an idiot as the veteran samurai once he grew older, he wondered. He sighed.
The wind started to blow again, dampening the sounds of the shady figure behind him.
Oota would never become an idiot, a poisoned shuriken in his neck ended his life in seconds...
Hour of the Rat
Fujiwara Taiki (Haudegen) quickly went inside after sunset. The events of the last days and nights had exhausted the young samurai and he decided to go to bed early. He took off his soaked through kimono and hung it on a laundry pole, to dry it out overnight.
He decided to skip the regular bath and simply washed his hands and face with ice cold water. Afterwards he went immediately to sleep.
While he was dreaming of better days, a shadow sneaked its’ way into his room, in his hands Fujiwara’s kimono and the laundry pole. With a sickening “thwack” sound, the thick pole came down on Fujiwara’s neck. The killer then jumped on top of his victim and, using all his mass, he drove the staked end of the pole straight through Fujiwara’s eyeball and out the other side of his skull. The killer then hung the kimono, soaked through with blood, back on the laundry pole and left the room.
Hour of the Ox
Saruwatari Kenta (Captain Blackadder) came back to his room. He calmly put down his swords and grabbed a piece of cloth.
With experienced hands, he started cleaning his short sword. As a samurai who had seen quite a few battles, he knew that you had to take care of your weapons and armor, no matter what the circumstances were. Not only was it a matter of honor and avoiding the shame, it could also well mean the difference between life and death in combat.
Ironically, due to being busy cleaning, he didn’t notice the man entering his room. Two strong, dark gloved hands grabbed the head of Saruwatari and with tremendous force, twisted it into an unnatural direction, breaking his neck and ending his life instantly.
The man quickly left the room unnoticed.
~~~
Day 6 - Things started to look grim
Hour of the Rabbit
The Tiger felt clean after his hot bath. He put on a freshly washed kimono and started to eat breakfeast. From the sounds on the courtyard, he understood that this nightmare wasn’t over yet. Within the privacy of his room, he sighed. Of course, he would never show his true feelings to his mean, but here, he could, for a brief moment, feel the weight of being the leader of one of Japan’s mightiest clan.
The samurai on the courtyard were silent and bowed deeply when Lord Takeda came outside. Cold as ice and with no expression on his face, Lord Takeda mounted the platform.
He looked at the familiar sight of dead bodies in the morning, picked up the scroll next to him, paused for a brief moment and then nodded towards Iino Miki (Beefy187) and Omura Sumitada (GeneralHankerchief). Both men stepped forward and bowed for their Lord. A senior officer nodded to both men. “No armor, no hidden weapons, just katana and wakizashi.” Both samurai bowed to the officer. They looked at each other and the attentive observant would see that these two men held no love for each other. Indeed, they had been at each other’s throats for days now, throwing challenge after challenge at each other and everybody knew Lord Takeda had made a wise decision by letting them battling it out.
Iino Miki wanted to end this soon. He didn’t like Omura, he didn’t like him at all and finally he could use steel to tell that idiot how he felt about him. He ran forwards, unsheeting his katana and aimed for the neck of his opponent. Omura stepped aside, blocked the attack and kicked his opponent in the groin. Iino was out of balance and the pain made him crumble. Omura swung his katana at his opponent, who was out of balance. Somehow Iino blocked the blow and stepped backwards. The pain and the bickering that had been going on for days, brought him in a fury and screaming profanities at his opponent, he attacked again. Omura ducked away and his katana pierced through Iino’s belly.
Iino stared in disbelief at his deadly wound. Omura stared at his victim, rage and hatred for this man clearly visible on his face. He waited until Iino started to moan, thus losing honor and shaming himself, before he beheaded him.
Lord Takeda nodded respectfully to the victorious warrior.
~~~
Alive (30):
Quintus.JC
GeneralHankerchief
FactionHeir
Caius
Ichigo
Wishazu
White_Eyes:D
Sasaki Kojiro
Stephen Assen
Peasant Phill
Kukrikhan
Gobbledygook
Psychonaut
taka
Rhyfelwyr
AggonyDuck
Beskar
atheotes
Kagemusha
CountArach
Tristan de Castelreng
Chimpyang
Yoyoma1910
Seamus Fermanagh
Banquo's Ghost
woad&fangs
ajaxfetish
glyphz
Dutch_guy
Yaropolk
Killed (21):Reenk Roink
Khazaar
spL1tp3r50nal1ty
Lord Winter
The Spartan
Iskander III
Shinseikhaan
Olavi
Thermal Mercury
Chaotix27
pevergreen
Gregoshi
LittleGrizzly
Louis VI the Fat
Crazed Rabbit
A Very Super Market
Glenn
Husar
Death is yonder
Haudegen
Captain Blackadder
Fallen in battle (5):El Diablo
Northnovas
Ignoramus
YLC
Beefy187
Lynched (5):TosaInu
Askthepizzaguy
Sigurd
shlin28
TinCow
WoG/Suicide (3):Jolt
Xehh II
Beaver
~~~
It's now day, you can start voting. Due to RL, it'll be an extended day phase which will last until Saturday, the 2nd of May, 10.00 pm (GMT+1), which is +/- 35 hours from this post.
:bow:
EDIT: sorry for the delay guys; it's splendid weather outside and didn't notice I had been sitting at the breakfeast table, enjoying the sun, for more than an hour. Life is beautiful :sunny:
At least I didn't die a idiot :2thumbsup:
This starts to get on my nerves.
Vote: Beskar
I just realized... we lost a swordsmaster. Husar is dead :skull:
They went for Husar again, that is a surprise. Must have been that injury. Still, the kills aren't really ringing any bells.
Have we actually even touched a traitor or a ninja yet?
Also, no offence Stephen Asen, if I was actually a mafia-role, I would have gone for you a while ago. :p
Well I'm kinda happy I died, was contemplating WoG due to imminent exams. A mercy killing :sweatdrop:
Good luck to the remaining townies, this game was fun while it lasted, great write ups Andres :bow:
Hmm, looks like i´m dead. I guess i have to live with that :sweatdrop:
A shame that we lost Husar. If YLC was a swordsmaster too, we have only one left. It doesn´t look too good for the town.
One thing i noticed in the write-up:
The winner of this day´s duel (GH) did not bow respectfully to Lord Takeda after the fight. That´s clearly different from all the other duel descriptions we´ve had so far.
Might be a hidden clue. Who knows ... ?
"Omura stared at his victim, rage and hatred for this man clearly visible on his face. He waited until Iino started to moan, thus losing honor and shaming himself, before he beheaded him."
Along with your statement, that could be the case, Haudegen.
FOS: GeneralHankerchief
I am shamed; I am not even worthy of a kill drop to frame. :shame:
I agree, GH's actions in the duel do not look right.
I absolutely think you guys should lynch GH now, he didn't seem to have any problems killing beefy and I found it a bit weird that he waited for his victim to lose his honour, only a cruel sadistic person would do that, someone like Sigurd* or a traitor/ninja/serialkiller.
*~;)
:bow: Long live Shingen
Good observation, Haudegen. That DOES smell of "traitor".
FOS: General Hankerchief.
Sixteen hours ago, he (GH) "explained" thus:
I wonder who else he killed overnight?Quote:
A thousand pardons, RL and other .Org duties are taking up most of my time at the moment.
Vote: GeneralHankerchief
His Duel result says it all.
What I find very strange is that, if we have some sort of guardian among us, who stopped the attack against Sasaki, why did he not protect Husar after it became apparent that he was a known swordmaster. So either we have an incompetent guardian or Sasaki's protection is a bit different than what we assumed.
First of all lets stop posting guards outside the camp by themselves in the dark in the middle of the mountain! :no:
I will still have to vote: Rhyhelwyr. CA put him on the short list of people 2 rounds ago that didn't submit their score. Rhy claimed he did in fact submit his score, but CA never confirmed that. Suspicion doesn't get wiped off just because you survived a round.
Strong FOS GeneralHandkerchief right behind him though for the duel results.
For the record: on Night 2, Glenn also did not bow to the Master after the duel Post 481, n2 writeup.
All the other duel write-ups have the victor bowing to Shingen.Quote:
Fujimoto (Glenn) picked up his katana and quickly decapacitated his opponent.
The duel was over.
Shingen nodded respectfully to Fujimoto.
"Now that this has been settled, we'll go through the proceedings again."
Well can swordmasters protect someone other than Shingen?
Good observations. I agree with Stephen - this is getting on my nerves too.
Interesting observations.
I think part of the reason the protector did not protect might have been that Husar seemed to have a survival chance and mafia normally don't attack the same target twice in a row.... They could have gone for Sasaki again afterall.
Re GH, I hadn't noticed that and it certainly seems incriminating with his general lack of posting. Though it could be related to the "hatred" mentioned in the writeup, he seems a good a lynch as any other (like Tristan or Rhyfelwyr) at the moment.
The way I see it someone attacked me and the next night the ninjas decided to finish me off just for the sake of finishing me off.
Or maybe they just hate me or thought I could still be useful for whoever despite the fact that my injury would have lasted for the rest of the game anyway. :shrug:
Im guessing with husar they saw he was weakened and figured they best finish him off incase he can recover, that combined with the fact he seemed to have a somewhat important role probably is the reason they chose him...
That is intresting that neither Glenn nor GH bowed, surely a traitor or ninja would be doubly sure to show respect... or perhaps a slight clue... something to keep in mind...
It seems to obvious a clue for andres to give away.
Vote:Seamus
Challenge:AggonyDuck
Yes, but perhaps it is not the General who had no honor. The man Glenn killed was named Watanabe. Though we have seen another wannabe die in the night, behold this letter:
And here is the write up which contains two of the same name as the letter:Quote:
Dear Nakayima,
Dear Watanabe,
Many years have passed since my ungrateful son has taken control over the Takeda clan.
Revenge is a dish best served cold, they say.
Messengers brought me alarming reports about our clan. My foolish son is drawing heavily on our resources and it seems like he will eventually lose the war against the Uesugi.
You must take action, before it's too late! My son is unaware about your true loyalty.
Bring me the head of the usurper, Takeda Shingen! Once he has been taken care of, I will take control over the Takeda clan and I will appoint the misguided Nobushige as my heir!
Keigu,
武田信虎.
The first Watanabe is a victim of who is likely a traitor, the second however died in battle. Perhaps this man was one of the traitors. But then, I do not know that the General was wise to force dishonor on his opponent. Perhaps both me had drives that stand outside of those of this house.
Vote:General Hankerchief
Whuh-oh, this looks like two games in a row where Andres's write-up puts me in trouble. I have no defense, all I can say is that CA knows my rating, probably knows Beefy's, and can make his own decision on the matter. :bow:
Why do you challenge me? What reason do you have for the challenge? I am innocent as I've told you guys several times, so I do not see what purpose my death would serve except thin out our ranks. I was in the belief that you were protected that night due to the fact that you were the real Shingen, while Count Arach was merely a kagemusha, but now you've pretty much shattered that theory with your challenge. I do not think that you were protected by the action of a pro-townie killblocker, so that leaves one option for me. I believe you're the ninja master, immune to night kills as long as your lackies are still around and it was one of them that protected you.
Vote: Sasaki
That's an interesting theory, but would that not have resulted in one less kill that night ?
I'd say this is as good a 'case' as any and definately the best we have this round, and further more I fail to see how the ratings would help your case - GH ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kukri
For now, Vote:GeneralHankerchief
:balloon2:
Aggony, CountArach confirmed that the protection on Sasaki was a pro-town action in this post...
Not saying it absolves Sasaki of suspicion though....:juggle2:
By the way CA, why wasn't Husar protected last night? It was obvious that he was going to be a target, so why did our protector waste an opportunity to deny a kill for the ninjas?
It's personal ~D
I have no explanation as for why I didn't bow. I'm as in the dark as you guys are.
Both you and CA know my real one.
AggonyDuck and Sasaki should decide the game as they appear to be the only ones who know what's going on. The rest of us mushrooms can sit here in the dark and get fertilized. :laugh4:
He is not a traitor because the name does not fit. A Ninja will of course bow to Takeda Shingen. I don't think he shall die this day. I do not think he shall be executed this day.
Sorry everybody, I've been having problems with my internet connection.
I agree with this.Quote:
He is not a traitor because the name does not fit. A Ninja will of course bow to Takeda Shingen. I don't think he shall die this day. I do not think he shall be executed this day.
I will vote after re-reading a few recent pages.
This is true. Though I have thought you suspicious in the past, I shall look elsewhere for villainy today.
Unvote:GH
vote:AggonyDuck
Challenge Yaropolk
Perhaps we need to contemplate the fact that we might not have any protectors left, both the Geishas were killed off early on, so that would explain why nobody protected Husar. However this could contradict how Sasaki was protected, maybe the protector was killed between when Sasaki was attacked and when Husar was badly injured? Right now we only have CA's words that Sasaki was defended by a protown power, and I sure hope he's got this one right.
CA, is the protector still alive at this point?
As regarding to GH, I think the clue left by Andres would be too obvious for town to find, maybe GH is just a naturally angry samurai. Andres inprovised when the Pevers were killed, and he might of done this one because GH and Beefy had been challenging each other for days with this fight when they were finally met - "They looked at each other and the attentive observant would see that these two men held no love for each other. Indeed, they had been at each other’s throats for days now, throwing challenge after challenge at each other and everybody knew Lord Takeda had made a wise decision by letting them battling it out." As I think there's no way that a ninja would do this to lose his identity, so GH is either a traitor who does not acknowledge Shingen as his lord, or just a rather grumpy samurai, and I think its the latter.
To BESKARRRR
I offered you a compromise, an honourable death for both of us. You declined shamefully claiming that death is not the purpose of the samurai even when he has to serve the master. So be it. Die then.
Challenge: Beskar
:bow:
Vote:GH....needs a little more pressure:wink:
Challenge:AggonyDuck
"I want my duel sometime..."
:thinking2:
I shall say also this:
In all things,
I am a man
Who appreciates
Simplicity and elegance.
There are few things
More elegant and
Simplistic in their purpose
Than a sword.
Let us then sir,
If our lord wills it:
Dance.
vote: abstain for now
I don't think the case against GH is very good now that it has been revealed that another samurai didn't bow to lord Takeda. I need some time to think of who to vote for this round.
I`m liking the theory about GH. To some people the clue about him not bowing seems too good to be true. Perhaps Andres is just helping us out a tiny bit. Anyways, i think this is the best evidence so far, especially when you combine it with the deliberate shaming of his opponent during the duel.
vote: Generalhankerchief
The GH not bowing after the duel seems like way too obvious of a clue for Andres to give, so I don't think it really means anything.
Vote:Beskar
His posts just scream scum to me.:shrug:
Alive (30):
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
5 (max, so far) bad-guy kills per night,
Plus 1 duel kill
Plus 1 Lynch
= 7 dead townies per day/night cycle, if mafia is 100% successful and town is 0% successful - not an unlikely possibility. So it looks like 3 more cycles before we lose to the bad guys. Just saying: "plan for the worst, hope for the best".
With town at half the strength it started out with, and this being statistically the end of the mid-game/beginning of the endGame, we town can no longer afford "ride-alongs", that is: players who contribute the minimum, or less than the minimum (lurkers) to avoid suspicion.
I'm OK with GH's no-defense defense, for now. The explanation is plausible, and I agree that Andres made an unintended clue, probably.
I'll be voting lurkers for the next 2 nights, to clear out the deadwood, or kill lurking scum, whichever comes first.
I recommend you think about doing the same.
vote: Banquo's Ghost.
GH maybe a scum due to write up.
However maybe it wasn't a clue at all.
Thats 50 percent chance of GH being a scum right there, where as other players are getting voted for their behaviors and posts they made.
If your going to let GH go with "I have no defence" defence, then please do lynch him in the near future just to make sure he was indeed innocent.
Holy moses, 1500 posts... ya, I'm pretty much lost. :sweatdrop:
The unprepossessing samurai who has only ever attracted notice when he was seen meditating over calligraphy walks quietly into Lord Takeda's audience room and bows.
"My lord," he begins, in an unexpectedly firm voice, and his shoulders seem to straighten and broaden. "Having disobeyed your orders, I stand before you in dishonour and await your mercy. Yet first, I claim the right as your faithful shinobi to place my life in the balance, and in so doing tip the scales towards the protection of your person to which I am sworn, and the ultimate victory over your enemies that is your destiny.
There are few enough of your loyal followers left that we may now strike with the knowledge I have gained, poor though it is. To delay further might bring more rewards, but I am sure that my death was always imminent and to go silent to the grave would have handed triumph to the wolves. Thus I reveal myself, attending you despite your order to stay at home, and gladly embrace whatever fate your decree.
Our enemies are careful, and whereas my investigations have been thorough, I know that some of them can hide their intent even from such as I. My lord, you must examine some of my conclusions through that clouded glass, but doubt not that most of what I have to say will be paid for by my blood, and thus my words are iron.
Hisao Mayurama (Quintus.JC) is one of the ninja and should be executed immediately. I have seen him stained with blood and fresh from last night's kill.
It is to my shame that this is the only firm evidence of guilt I have gleaned, but I am sure of the innocence and loyalty of the following men still alive:
Beskar
Generalhankerchief
Sasaki Kojiro
Seamus Fermanagh
Stephen Asen
Tristan de Castelreng
glyphz
Gobbledegook
And those that have perished:
Crazed Rabbit
Reenk Roink
Sigurd
TinCow
Gregoshi
Finally, it is most imperative that you execute Quintus.JC immediately, but then urgently consider the dispatch of Gamo Ujisato (KukriKhan). I have no evidence against him save that he evaded my investigations in a most unusual manner and has been carefully active in directing the yashiki's votes. I believe he has discovered me, and twice now has, with the subtlety of the spider, sought to place me into harms' way. I firmly believe he is the ninja master.
I have done my duty, though not your will, and I shall continue in your service until you see fit to ask me to watch the dawn for the last time, or your enemies deny me that last joy."
:bow:
Well, Banquo, I'm convinced, unless CountArach has something to say against you.
vote: Quintus.JC
Ajax
A look back on voting records for Kukri and Quintus:
Quintus
Abstain
Sigurd
No Vote
No Vote
Tristan
None yet today
KukriKhan
Glenn
Sigurd
Shlin28
Banquo's Ghost
Rhyfelwyr
Banquo's Ghost
If BG's info is reliable, Quintus has voted for 2 confirmed innocents and otherwise avoided voting. Kukri has voted for one confirmed innocent, for BG himself, for CountArach's recommended target (Shlin), and for Glenn and Rhyfelwyr (status unknown).
A look at the two lynch victims BG reports as innocent:
Sigurd
Both Kukri and Quintus voted for Sigurd. So did Shlin, who raised CountArach's suspicions afterward. So did GH (innocent according to BG) and Louis and Haudegen (both later night killed).
That leaves Ichigo, Chimpyang, and AggonyDuck (status unknown).
TinCow
Neither of the two BG accused voted for TinCow. Kukri voted for Rhyfelwyr that day, and Quintus for Tristan. Of those who did vote for TC, CountArach and Husar are obviously innocent, and so is Sasaki according to BG. Haudegen was later night killed, and Beefy just fell to GH in a duel. That leaves Rhyfelwyr, Kagemusha, atheotes, White Eyes, and me, ajaxfetish (status unknown).
Ajax
Patience paid off today for the clueless.
Vote: Quintus.JC
Confirmed killers first. We need to slow down the 'bleeding.'
Ding ding ding! Bandwagon time!Quote:
Tally:
GeneralHankerchief: 3 - (Beskar, Dutch_guy, Wishazu)
Beskar: 2 - (Stephen Asen, Ichigo)
Quintus.JC: 2 - (ajaxfetish, glyphz)
Rhyfelwyr: 1 - (Yaropolk)
Seamus Fermanagh: 1 - (Sasaki Kojiro)
Sasaki Kojiro: 1 - (AggonyDuck)
AggonyDuck: 1 - (Yoyoma1910)
Banquo's Ghost: 1 - (KukriKhan)
woad&fangs: 1 - (White_eyes:D
abstain: woad&fangs
Duel list:
Sasaki Kojiro - AggonyDuck
Yoyoma1910 - Yaropolk
Stephen Asen - Beskar
White_eyes:D - AggonyDuck