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Originally Posted by hellenes
It is strange how humanity is closer to nazism than what most people think....hmm, wait, now, wouldn't that be generalisation? :thinking:
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Originally Posted by hellenes
It is strange how humanity is closer to nazism than what most people think....hmm, wait, now, wouldn't that be generalisation? :thinking:
"In recent by-elections, the BNP have defeated Tory, Labour and LibDem candidates in perfectly pleasant, bourgeois districts."
That's not really surprising. Political scientists, or, at least, liberal political scientists always chime the mantra that the middle class is the bedrock of liberal democracy. Well, maybe in most of the West, now, but not everywhere and not always, not by a longshot. Go back to the rise of European fascism in the form of the NSDAP- the biggest losers in electoral terms were not the left-wing SPD and KPD, or the conservative parties on the right, but the classical liberal parties in the center, whose supposedly freedom-loving middle class constituents deserted them in droves for self-proclaimed authoritarians.
The only problem would be the next.
Let's presume you had a relationship with a chick based mainly upon material attraction.....
Let's presume that you have sex with that chick one night....
Let's presume the next day you have an argument with that chick and in a rage she decides to sue you for rape.
I know that women are excellent at mastering emotional content and complaining so when you two get on the witness stand and she testifies agaisnt you with 5 or so friends against you you are likely to hit the slammer.
That's why sex crimes are more and more a reality this days...
And let's presume you dated a 16 year old who looked like a twenty year old and you're a wealthy 40 year old man.
Let's presume you stop financing her shopping sprees but you nevertheless have sex with her. You get a double conviction for having sex with a minor and a rape charge from her perents (20 years in the slammer).
Nah, men can be just as disingeneous as women in the dock. I feel you are catering to the same stereotypes that Sir John Bull capitalises on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cronos Impera
There is, however, a feminist 'rape myth' based on biased surveys. The high rape estimates (one in eight, or even one in four) stem from surveys that define rape in ways that even the victims wouldn't acknowledge. For instance if a woman has had sex while voluntarily intoxicated and later came to regret it, this is counted as rape. A mistaken liaison does not equal rape.
And suggestive looks have been considered a form of sexual assault.
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Originally Posted by hellenes
Indeed, given many Islamic organisations open denial of the holocaust. I even read somewhere that Mein Kampf is one of the biggest selling books across the middle east...very interesting and quite disturbing if true...
Would I be going too far in calling 'religion' (generally speaking) 'the last bastion of organised (and somehow legitamised) bigotry and intolerance left in the world'?
I would agree your post completely. :bow:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cronos Impera
yes. bigotry and intolerance are easy to organize. political parties do it all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by lancelot
Brilliant. :laugh4:
It's funny how people think that nazism was about killing jews.Quote:
Originally Posted by lancelot
Actually, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cronos Impera
There was a case in court a month or so ago which was like that, and it resulted in the judge telling the guy to keep his pants on when around young girls, and little else. IIRC, the girl was 14(while saying she was 17-18, legal age here is 16), and the man was around 40. The guy bought her stuff, then they went to a hotel for some sexin' regularly. The court found him gullible because he believed she was of legal age, but not a criminal, and as such he just got a smack on the fingers(which he rightfully deserved), but no jail time.
It was the parents who called the police when they saw messages on their daughters mobile, btw.
What you would be doing is going too far off topic. We've got a long tradition of "Religion teh eval" threads, and you are welcome to start another - but this thread needs no further violation.Quote:
Originally Posted by lancelot
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I thought of some great pick-up line: "Baby, show me your ID and then sign this piece of paper that says you're of clear mind, sane and not intoxicated in any way."
Its absolutely possible. Another myth is that woman can't rape man - really big myth.Quote:
how is rape conducted without violence exactly? there will always be the threat of violence at the very least...
There were court case in Poland some years ago. Nurse who worked at nights into hospital has interesting hobby - she blowjobbed her patients, but only those who were into gypsum.
Most of them has nothing against it (she looks pretty well) but one of them had. Sadly he could say nothing because of his illness (he got car accident and has broken mouth, hands and legs). That was typical rape and she was punished for that (health service level into hospital fallen dramatically).
Actually, I think various courts across the world have been back and forth on this whole issue of male rapre by women. And in your case Id say that it certainly seems like there was some sort of arousal on the man's part- which is precisely the issue with male rape by women.Quote:
Originally Posted by KrooK
Now, if that woman had gone at the man with a phallic shaped instrument (I dont think I need to elborate further on what I mean here) then I would certainly consider that male rape by a woman.
I guess it could be considered as some form of assault but there is a distinctly sexual connotation involved...
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Originally Posted by KrooK
the broken mouth and limbs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Arousal doesn't mean aproval?Quote:
Originally Posted by lancelot
Not to all women..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mithrandir
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why would it? shoot, i'll pop a woodrow in a stiff breeze.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mithrandir
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Originally Posted by lancelot
Er, lets not mix up physical pleasure and psychical displeasure. I am sure it is most possible for a woman to feel physical pleasure during the crime; it is not the point. That was a rape because it was forced sexual intercourse.
for many men arousal can be obtained by simple physical stimulus...even if you´re not interested in the person doing the stimulus at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mithrandir
from what i understand, some (many, most, none?) psychologists believe that fear can act on the 'arousal system' as powerfully as sexual attraction, and sometimes women to have an orgasm during rape.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronin
i'm not sure if the same thing is true for female->male rape, since the fear factor might be different. but the penis is a pretty dumb appendage, so it probably doesn't need much psychology to get aroused.
You clearly have no idea about conviction rates.Quote:
Originally Posted by hellenes
As to the original post, he has not only no idea what he is going on about but with his petty mind is disrespecting all the poor victims - women and men - of rape.
Saying "rape is fine because the women enjoy it" is like saying
"He was a stonemason so why did he mind hacking rocks in the gulag?" or maybe it's like saying noone here would mind to be chained to a computer and forced to play WoW all day long, after all we all like playing games, don't we?
There's something called personal freedom and choices and on top of that many humans have what we call a private zone which for some reason they don't want everyone to enter without their consent, society makes laws to support them in these personal decisions precisely because most members of society feel or felt that way, I don't think all humans are numb to the point of not minding rape yet thus it is and hopefully will be illegal in the future.
In a way..... The thought that I can still get head when I am thus incapacitated is reassuring. https://i118.photobucket.com/albums/...al/awesome.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Big_John