I agree with BigTex.
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I agree with BigTex.
Not even going to get into how wrong 2. can be, but the belief that all bodybuilders juice is a very uneducated myth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Strike For The South
The pyramid method of strength trianing has been around for quite awhile. Hiting your max each time allows for better gains then only going for 80%. Truly shocking the governator would pick up an effective method of weight trianing. Him along with Dave Draper, and hey and all of the trainers at the local gold's gym even used an atagonistic approach, I guess that diminishes their effectiveness too...
I'd still love to hear your reason why the bicep is a completely useless muscle. It is the antagonist of the tricep and since your routine seems to be focused around getting a higher bench then why in the world wouldnt you be concerned with its strength? A wonderful article on the use of the antogonist during a lift. Your tricep is only going to be able to exert as much force as your bicep can support. Just like your lats are supporting your chest. Also a stronger forearm leads to a better grip, which alone can improve your bench. It takes 5 minutes or less at the end of a routine to work at that. 3x15heavy behind wrist curls, and superset hammer wrist curls to forward wrist curls off the bench 3x12-20light. Aim for the max each time but don't be afraid to drop it if the burn goes to a slight pain.
You also don't isolate anything besides one movement on the skullcrushers. It's one thing to work groups but idealy you should try to isolate all of the muscles you work in a day at least once.
Frying your CNS usually comes from poor nutrition and not giving yourself enough recovery time. I never said for Ice to pick up one of my routines, I gave him an example. You should try to find your own routine, one that keeps you entertained and makes you want to go and lift. Not only that but keep it fresh, change things and move the order.
I swear, deja vu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craterus
Calcium casienate + whey and some bcaa's, best sleep you'll ever get.
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I don't know if I've mentioned this yet. But weight lifting is alot like sex, you have to try every postion, every routine, any pace, different lengths, more/less sets, new foreplay warmups whatever you want to call them. You have to find what works for you, what keeps you entertained, what gives you results, what gives you something to drive for. Do some research of your own. There's plenty of online resources or even go pick up a fitness magazine and while your at it, grab a psyological journal, find out what your body is actually doing.
It seems like even the most basic aspects of lifting are debatable. I've given up asking for advice on fitness forums as there always seems to be several very contrasting opinions.
I've had some success lifting to exhaustion on every set, but my diet and sleep situation are not optimal.
Wow, didn't notice this has evolved this much.
I don't agree with Big Tex about isolation exercises, but then my goal isn't hypertrophy but useful strength and power/weight ratio. I agree that training is only as useful as your body can take, and that food and rest are crucial.
I prefer compound exercises and lifts. Olympic clean and presses, deadlifts, benchpress, squats, pullups, upright rows, dips, one armed pushups and bulgarian loungesis what I do myself in different combinations during the week. I supplsment with burst sprinting, uphill medium distance running, rowing, and rock climbing.
Again, that works for me and my goals.
I'm 1.78m and 84 kg right now. I have about 5 kg to lose of winter fat, but that is down to my nutrition. Will be switching off some of the wintery sausages and moving on to more fruit. That should about do it.
All pro and allot of amature bodybuilders are on some type of enhacment people aernt made to look like that. Look at Frank Zane or Tom Metzger and then look at Coleman or Cutler. You want to know the one big diffrence? Roids. Im not even saying steroids are bad in fact for weight triaining they are the best supplment to have and for grown men really aernt all that dangroues. However Ice probably doesnt want to take them. So looking like one of them probably isnt an option. The pyriamd is not effective for hypertrophy (Once agian ICEs goal) Your goal of weight training should not be running your body into the ground so you need a week to recover.
As for foremams they got stronger with the farmers walk nothing builds stregnth like walking with 100lbs in each hand and they also get worked with any type of pull exercise you do. Trainig them alone is knid of useless at the novice state ICE is in he will save time and still get good results. ALl you need to do for biceps is rows and pull ups. The bicep does not stabilze the tricep during the bench press. The lats are utlized when the bar first touches your chest as this is past parallel for most people and the chest isnt pushing at this point its your lats.
Ice has never seroiuly weight lifted before he could do Squat Bench and Deadlift and still get stronger and look better if thats all he did. The compund movments are infintly better than iso excersises. they should be very tireing. For the record my goals are to move max weight with a secondary goal of hypertrophy deffintily not the same as yours and deffintly not the same as ICEsQuote:
I want to have a nice looking body
Compund movements with high weight and low reps (75% and up and 5 or less) will get ICE bigger and stronger than anything else and that is a fact. He would also burn more calories and imporve heart and lung health better than he would if he ran. thats the truth.