The Final US Election Thread

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Originally Posted by Koga No Goshi

I'm surprised because in the election thread we went one and a half hundred pages on things like:

1. "Obama's VP pick was just as bad/worse."
2. "Obama flip flops on everything, you can't trust him."
3. "Obama pretends to be for working people but he's really going to tax them out of existence."
4. "Obama's campaign and supporters are just as personal and attack just as low below the belt."
5. What? Weren't like the last 10-15 pages of the election thread people condemning Obama as a socialist? It seems like a lot of McCain supporters really believe that, and not just the idiot ones.
6. "The media just wasn't nice to her."

I don't disagree with your objective assessment of McCain's campaign, and yes Strike I know that you are non partisan in this race (though I wouldn't say you're totally politically neutral either, but close enough compared to a diehard McCain or diehard Obama supporter), I am just surprised to see people um... "confessing it", at this late hour?

I know there have been some early detractors on the Republican side of how McCain has run is campaign. But there have equally been many posters defending it or eviscerating Obama's as just as bad or worse in every single respect right up until the final page of the election thread. So I'm in a bit of shock.

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1. Biden may be the ultimate politician but he certainly has a better mind than Palin and much more experience in foreign policy
2. True but McCain ran on trust and he destroyed that buy selling out for votes
3. Ummmm I would've voted for McCain 2000 but the 08 verison is a shell of the former man.
4. Not so much There really haven't been many attacks on McCain and Palin is like a Biden without the big words to cover her mess
5. He has very socialistic tendencies but painting him as Marx only turns the independents off and gives Obama ammo
6. Picking Palin

Just gonna do a lil WOOOOOP, before my hopes can get dashed.

Gah, any spots for updated results?

Also; voter intimidation in Philadelphia by a Black Panther guy with a nightstick. Good grief.

Luckily the police came and escorted the guy with the nightstick away.

CR

OBAMA!

though i really dont have a clue, the UK has had such hype on the american elections, when it isnt even anything to do with us, its makes headlines day in and out, shows the obssession with the U.S, theres even american programs about the politics there starting, im sure non of you americans went go gordan brown when tony blair was kicked from downing street, thats if you even no who they are, the first being a fool, the latter being a liar, the UK is ran by a group of pigs and dumbasses

Wow! Those poll lines look long. Makes me proud to be participating in the election, though I did it with the far more convenient absentee ballot.

Sadly I didn't participate in the last two elections though I could have, feel real shame for it too.

I'll just be happy for the campaigning to be over. Way to too many months I've been hearing about these guys.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/
haha just look here .co.uk you notice and the headline is....:laugh4:

Black Panthers are intimidating voters in Philadelphia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU

Whoops. Someone beat me to it.

man, they sure want him to win.....
wonder what will happen if obama doenst win....
*looks back at the race riots in the 60's*

Crazed Rabbit, DA, Drudge has posted more stories since that one. I expect you to copy and paste in a timely manner, friends.

Toledo police brace for possible riots

EDIT: GOP election board members thrown out of polling sites in philly

First off - thanks for the kind words guys, I'm just very passionate about this election :bow:

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Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly

Yes good op, love reading the various polls and stuff, so CA which of your potential results do you think most likely ?

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My tip is that Obama will win IA, CO, NM, NV, VA, FL and OH. So it would look like this:
https://i141.photobucket.com/albums/...elyresults.jpg

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Originally Posted by Lemur

If we keep giving CA all of this love he's going to be unlivable. Please, stop appreciating and thanking and being civil. CountArch, I hear, um, your model is off by seven points! Yeah, you heard me! You been served!

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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

*Faints*

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Originally Posted by Lord Winter

Do you have any stats about the oregon senate race?

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Smith (R) was winning for most of the year, but the race has broken in Merkley's favour and he is now winning about 47-42. FiveThirtyEight has the race with 92% chance of Merkley winning.

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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

Gah, any spots for updated results?

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Here at CNN.

In other news: Ten reasons to ignore exit polls

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Originally Posted by Lemur

Crazed Rabbit, DA, Drudge has posted more stories since that one. I expect you to copy and paste in a timely manner, friends.

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I didn't get it from Drudge. Try to keep up.

Anyway, here's an article from an anti-NRA, anti-free market capitalism author about how Obama's coal hating will hurt the poor:

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Obama isn't cutting taxes for the poor, because they don't pay any.

Instead, he's planning to make it so expensive to generate electricity that only the rich can afford to use their appliances whenever they want.

Why? It's all in the name of Obama's True Belief in Global Warming. He says it himself -- he'll take coal off the table as an "ideological matter." Even if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, he's opposed to pursuing it.

He wants to put a huge penalty on companies that emit carbon -- which means that starting up new coal-powered electrical plants will be prohibitively expensive. In Obama's own words, "It will bankrupt them."

"Cap and trade" plans have already been tried, and they don't work -- they cost too much, and people find ways to get around them. But Obama promises us that he'll take that failed idea and be "as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's" plan.

In other words, if it doesn't work, let's do more of it!

This is Obama the New Puritan. We've found his real religion: Political and Environmental Correctness.

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Originally Posted by hooahguy

Toledo police brace for possible riots

EDIT: GOP election board members thrown out of polling sites in philly

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I'm glad at least one of our Drudge readers can do this in a timely manner, as requested.

CR, only two places carried that story earlier today, Fox and Drudge. So which is your source?

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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

Anyway, here's an article from an anti-NRA, anti-free market capitalism author about how Obama's coal hating will hurt the poor:

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You don't really know who OSC is, do you? And why are you still posting slam pieces when by this time the majority of Orgahs will have already voted? The election is ending, and you're still grinding on.

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Originally Posted by hooahguy

Toledo police brace for possible riots

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Of course they are prepared for civil unrest... why wouldn't they be? I don't see how that is relevant.

nah, im not a drudge reader- i just went there b/c you sparked my interest....
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Lemur - I found it on a blog that linked to that election journal site.
And my description of OSC is completely accurate - from your link:

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Card identifies himself as a Democrat because he is pro-gun control/anti-National Rifle Association, highly critical of free-market capitalism, and because he believes that the Republican party in the South continues to tolerate racism. Card encapsulated his views thus:[12]
“ Maybe the Democrats will even accept the idea that sometimes the people don't want to create your utopian vision (especially when your track record is disastrous and your "utopias" keep looking like hell)... The Democratic Party ought to be standing as the bulwark of the little guy against big money and rapacious free-market capitalism, here and abroad. After all, the Republicans seem to be dominated by their own group of insane utopians—when they're not making huggy-huggy with all those leftover racists from the segregationist past.

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Was it misleading? Maybe. :beam:

Anyways, Palin was cleared of ethics violations by the state personnel board:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081104/D9480AK83.html

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Report clears Palin in Alaska's Troopergate probe

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) - This time, Gov. Sarah Palin can claim vindication against allegations that she abused her power in office by firing her public safety commissioner.

Palin - running mate of Republican presidential candidate John McCain - violated no ethics laws, according to a report released by the state personnel board on the eve of Election Day. An earlier, separate investigation by the Legislature found that Palin had abused her office.

"There is no probable cause to believe that the governor, or any other state official, violated the Alaska Executive Ethics Act in connection with these matters," the personnel board's report said.

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CR

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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

A blog that linked to that election journal site.

Anyways, Palin was cleared of ethics violations by the state personnel board:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081104/D9480AK83.html


CR

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too bad that came out too late...

EDIT: seems as if i just contradicted myself: earlier i said i wouldnt visit these forums..... ah well....
:laugh4: :wall:

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Originally Posted by Aries777777

...the UK is ran by a group of pigs and dumbasses

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You got pigs, we got elephants, otherwise little difference. ~D

What TV stations are everyone watching? I have the choice between CNN and Faux...

to quote Winston Churchill:
"i like pigs. dogs look up to us, cats look down on us. pigs treat us as equals."

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Originally Posted by CountArach

What TV stations are everyone watching? I have the choice between CNN and Faux...

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dont own a tv.....
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I'm avoiding the media until later tonight. The last thing I need to see is a bunch of talking heads and their lame "experts" bloviating on the unknowable in order to fill air time.

I say boycott the media until tonight.

I'm with Lemur. I probably won't tune in until 8pm. I'll probably go with CNN for my election coverage.

Anyway, here's an article from an anti-NRA, anti-free market capitalism

You missed out McCain supporter, he's also a member of the global warming is a lie religion, hardly an unbiased source..

Real intellectuals are skeptical and look for evidence before they embrace an idea; global warming, like the rest of the dogmas of the extreme Left, are believed without proof, by faith alone

For the New Puritans, Global Warming is the vengeful god that must be placated. Our economy is the sacrifice to that deity. In the name of Global Warming, we must destroy our quality of life -- and, like sales tax, it will hurt the poorest people first and most.

He does seem above the partisan bickering of most... but anyway it should be obvious to anyone reading the article that he is every bit the rabid partisan attack dog, that rush or the other guy are.... onto the actual claims of the article (the bits inbetween all the attacks)

Instead, he's planning to make it so expensive to generate electricity that only the rich can afford to use their appliances whenever they want.

So is this a stated policy position, i think not, many poor britons have still managed to have electricity and we are probably infront of america in our weaning off fossil fuels, so 1 claim 1 lie so far....

• Enact a Windfall Profits Tax to Provide a $1,000 Emergency Energy Rebate to American Families

One of obama's stated positions... poor americans everywhere will have a grands worth of energy...

He says it himself -- he'll take coal off the table as an "ideological matter." Even if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, he's opposed to pursuing it.

From barackobama.com, does this guy just make stuff up off the top of his head or is there a place where mccain supporters collect all these lies... im not even going to bother with the rest of the article, the fact that someone like me can debunk the crap he wrote so easily means he really isn't worth reading..

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Develop and Deploy Clean Coal Technology. Carbon capture and storage technologies hold
enormous potential to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions as we power our economy with
domestically produced and secure energy. As a U.S. Senator, Obama has worked tirelessly to
ensure that clean coal technology becomes commercialized. An Obama administration will
provide incentives to accelerate private sector investment in commercial scale zero‐carbon coal
facilities. In order to maximize the speed with which we advance this critical technology, Barack
Obama and Joe Biden will instruct DOE to enter into public private partnerships to develop 5

“irst‐of‐a‐kind”commercial scale coal‐fired plants with carbon capture and sequestration.

How do absentee ballots work in the USA? I don't believe that there are any electors representing voters living abroad, so do they just tally your vote in the state you were born in? Lived in last?

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Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars

How do absentee ballots work in the USA? I don't believe that there are any electors representing voters living abroad, so do they just tally your vote in the state you were born in? Lived in last?

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From the people I have talked to it is all about where you last were registered to vote.

A useful tool I just found. This map on Pollster.com will update each time a news network calls the race for a candidate.

Voting was incredibly painless for me. Even with registering on-site, I was still done inside a half-hour. I live in a more typically suburban area, however, so I probably beat the rush.


I'm not even considering turning on the TV until later this evening. Doing so anytime before 7-8:00 would be a waste of time.

What time should i start watching the news ?

Basically i want there to be a rough idea before i start watching... rather than time filling... time in GMT please...

In GMT? Midnight maybe. I know I'm staying up all night to watch the results come in.