Gaeilache don't have a helmet, yet they have one point of armour :inquisitive:. That's what I was talking about.
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Gaeilache don't have a helmet, yet they have one point of armour :inquisitive:. That's what I was talking about.
Read that again.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Terribly Harmful Name
Read what :inquisitive:?
Hm the Gaesatae have 5 armor too while the Uirodusios have 1. I guess helmets are worth 4 points, though I can't picture the Gaesatae blocking swords with their heads. (In fact I kind of imagine them doing the exact opposite)
As for the thread, I'd say the Northern Swordsmen rule :book:
I prefer swordsmen to spearmen-I'm more offense oriented, and don't care for the enemy cavalry, as long as I have some of my own.
@ everyone: please, no spamming. and stop with the FYROM and sexual references in the titles. the backroom and babe thread exist for a reason.
Stop modding my posts and get over here Ludens :-p.
Well, let us continue the discussion then.
Why does the EB team give armour to the naked or half-naked barbarian soldiers? Surely 5 armour is not a single helmet, because by that logic the TABs should have 40 armour.
Shirts and pants are like 1 each I think. Maybe shoes count?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus
The real guy to ask is Watchman, he audited all the stats.
Are you actually serious? Why would they give armour points for that? Or is this merely to prolong battles, in opposition to insta-slaughter of the vanilla?Quote:
Originally Posted by antisocialmunky
Considering the high-end for armor is well into the 20's and the attack/defense matchup does not scale linearly: 0 or 2 armor against 10-14 attack for most weapons is not a very big deal.
I was conjecturing though I'm fairly sure some clothes is counted above no clothes or no shirt.
I usally have 2 to 1 sword to sper ratio. Those Belgae spearmen PWN! I also love the Bataroas. They are hands down better then the batroas.
I distinctly remember Watchman or some EB team member saying that the Celts get 1 armour bonus for free because they were bigger and tougher than most others. There are actually a few units that have 0 as their armour value, though I think the only infantry unit that has that are the Nubian Spearmen.
As for swords vs. spears, I prefer swords because the .225 lethality is awesome. This is not to say that the spearmen don't have their use as well; I use plenty of non-Lugoae spearmen whenever I can, and Lugoae when there is no other choice for spearmen.
Yeah, yeah. Yesterday I didn't have enough time to view all new posts. If it happens again, there is a report button next to every post. That will send a message to the moderators in charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by antisocialmunky
No, you are right. Elmactios even argued that swords had gone out of fashion by EB's time-frame, although he couldn't explain why.Quote:
Originally Posted by athanaric
I think it is +4 for a high-quality, face-covering helmet, and the +1 barbarian bonus. The helmet gives such a big bonus because it covers the bit of the body that is most vulnerable when carrying a medium-to-large shield, like most Celtic close-combat fighters do. All barbarian units get a +1 armour bonuses for balancing purposes, or possibly to indicate that a considerable number of them would have supplemented their basic armour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frontline1944
I think he stated that "sharp-edged" swords gave way to late La Tene blunt edged ones such as those carried by the Bataroas. Anyway, I agree that having way too many swordsmen seems unrealistic.Quote:
No, you are right. Elmactios even argued that swords had gone out of fashion by EB's time-frame, although he couldn't explain why.
When I play ANY faction I never load up on certain troops types.
I go with a generally cost based mix, the cheaper they are to recruit and maintain the more I have.
Means that my armies tend to be very mixed with the 'core' factional or local units dominating and just a smattering of the more elite stuff.
Feels right to me to only have maybe two or three 'elite' units in a 15-20 unit army.
When you're facing 3 units of elite africans and the rest sacred band of either foot or mounted variety in a 15 unit enemy army something just seems wrong...
(funny when the Komatai lead them into the desert though...)
I think this is it, +4 for complete helmet(perhaps raised depending on shield size), +1 for barbarianess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ludens
and another +1 for having a blacksmith in town.
Bataroas are great, very high stamina, 200 men with 0.225 longswords, 5 armour which is better than 1 or 2 like usual. Milnaht or Neitos are also good depending wether you go for stamina or better armoured. For spearmen I like Batacorii as anticav/general purpose and Balroae as skirmishers, latter two have narrow AOR though.