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The thought police is on this site too? Hello Red Peasant, is your favorite moto "resistance is futile, you shall be asimilated" or something between those lines?
Ktonos, I think some people are really not fit to talk with others - they can't stand dialogue.
Well, dialogue is a greek word. I can understand them if they don't know what it really means.
You mean like OJ's search for the real killers?Quote:
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Compare the numbers who survived.Quote:
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Death camps were orders of magnitude worse.
Skin Lamps, soap, gassing of humans. Those are crimes against humanity. There is a scale here.
Nazi Concentration Camp > British Boer War Concentration Camp > USA WWII Camp > Summer Camp.
The Nazi's believed they were superior to everyone else. They were a racist organisation.
Final Solution was something that they did do.
That is a huge difference between that and incarcerating people out of fear (could have been handled and/or looked after a whole lot better).
In my opinion the Nazi ideas were evil. Not only their ideas but the fact they went further then any single group in history towards a campaign of genocide against Gypsies, Jews, intellectualy handicapped, and many others.
As were the Japanese just like at the rape of Nanking.
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Fighting against the Italians the Maori Battalion had one of their hospital tents grenaded. In response the Maori leader called for Uto (Honour) and that no Italian prisoners would be taken in the following battle. After wiping out the Italians (including picking them up and throwing them off cliffs) the deeds were brought to the high command. The leader was stripped of his command and sent home in disgrace.
War crimes happened on both sides. However the huge difference is where it was an individual case by case basis on the side of the Allies in the vast majority of the cases, the Axis this and on top of that systematic systems of war crimes.
Killing wounded in hospitals.
Refusing Red Cross help to prisoners.
Refusing proper medical aid.
Torture. Rape. Mass Murder. Skining prisoners alive for lamp shades.
Russian POW slave labour.
The list goes on. It wasn't just demented/war weary/psychotic/pissed off individuals. It was a cold inhumane system that both the Germans and Japanese used.
Only apologists say the Nazi's or Japanese were not evil.
Rasism is not in the english language that I have seen before.Quote:
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Racism is. This is when you hold a set of beliefs about someone based on their race, normally of a negative set.
So for Red Peasant to have made a racist comment would have required something like 'your views are stupid and your are pig ugly because you are *insert race here*'.
To call someone racist in UK/USA/Australia (essentially any prior Britsh Colony) and many places else in the world is a VERY imploite thing to do.
To do so is the verbal equivalent of punching someone in the face in western society. So make sure those comments are justified. Because calling someone a racist is not a throw away comment, it is in fact a serious insult.
Racial vilification (ie being a racist) is a criminal offence in Australia. So essentially you are accusing someone of a crime. Make sure you have evidence or understand a word such as this before you throw it around.
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PS I am the bOrg but I have standards so don't worry about being assimalated anytime soon Rosacrux http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif
Since I consider myself having pretty high standards anyway, don't expect me to start begging to be assimilated http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ons/tongue.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gifQuote:
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P.S. Don't be harsh on Ktonos. He did choose poorly the word, but I think we can all understand what he meant and most of us can spell intolerance...or even bigotry, right?
But a bigot in normal parlance assumes you know something of the persons background and are using that as an assumption about their character. Bigot is to racism what a rectangle is to a square.
So if I make a broad judgement based on which side of town someone comes from that is a bigot. Or sexuality, race, religion etc. A bigot tends to paint in broad strokes and deleting the individual in favour of group prejudice.
So I wouldn't assume Red Peasant is being a bigot about this... maybe about rugby union http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif.
Intolerance, well some things in life shouldn't be tolerated. That is what we have criminal standards for somethings we also have charities, and hospitals all to deal with things we do not tolerate. As long as people do not make their differences of opinion personal I have no problem with them disagreeing with each other or myself.
So I may agree that intolerance has been shown. But as long as we aren't calling fatwa or inquisitions on each other I think things will be okay.
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Oh by the way Rosacrux my form of assimilation is copius smiles http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif *Pape evil demented laugh...