Historical KH Armies for EB

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Originally Posted by Ludens

I see. It sounds logical, but in this particular case the Aitolians would have found the lighter hoplites far more suited to their terrain and tactics anyway.

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Certainly, Aetolia is a mountainous place, and I had no argument over whether Thermon should be using the lighter hoplites. In fact, I was pointing out earlier that Thermon should be using the new-model hoplites because it starts with a garrison of them.

I was only talking about Sparta, due to their deeper traditionalism and conservatism. I tried to do some research on this, but most sources are very bad about distinguishing between the earlier classical hoplites and the later, lighter versions. I did find out that the last major battle in which a major force consisted of hoplites happened before the Hellenistic era, I believe it was during Philip II of Makedon's subjugation of Greece, when he fought the Thebians and Athenians at Chaeronea. At least this is what one source said. However, I found mention of hoplites being used in supporting roles during the Hellenistic era, but not as the main force. The problem is, they might be referring to the Iphikratian hoplitai, and they are bad about distinguishing between these later troops and the earlier classical hoplites. So, I guess I really don't know.