A few years ago I found it easy to dislike Brittany Spears, yet between you and me, I wouldn't have minded having err... sexual intercourse with her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir
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A few years ago I found it easy to dislike Brittany Spears, yet between you and me, I wouldn't have minded having err... sexual intercourse with her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir
Vladimir's point is still valid imho. Ugly people are easier to dislike than good looking people. What she said comes off worse because it is being said by her as opposed to, say, Eva Longoria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moros
Africans are willing to work for under 2 dollars a day? Africans? What Africa is that, the one on planet Neptune...?
While I was in Tanzania, the local cement factory(Simba Cement, IIRC) was having its wage negotiation with its workers, and it the meetings took place at the same conference centre I was staying. This was naturally discussed with around the dinner table with the people there, so I actually know what these african wages are.
Tanzania should fit her description of "africans", considering she talks about how Australia(supposedly) lags behind, and Tanzania is predicted to be in the top 10 growing economies(one of 7 african economies, along with India, Brazil and China(I think)) in the next 10 years. This cement factory made an income of 95 million USD last year, so it should definitely qualify. It's also placed in a region one of the staffers described as "a shithole within a shithole", so there's no shortage of poor people without jobs.
So what do they earn? Sadly, the talks didn't conclude before we left, so I don't know the current wage. What they made before however, was roughly 2 million Shilling per month. A quick mental estimate makes that about 1100 USD. Not knowing the exact number of hours they work, that gives you a little over 50USD per day, or in other words about 25 times her idiotic statement(perhaps more in aussie monopoly money).
You may find one or two Zanzibar gigolos with an income that equals abot 2USD during off season, and that may well be her experience. It does not, however, in any way give something that remotely resembles the facts about Africa.
Not only does she have despicable opinions, she is also completely clueless on what is supposed to be her field. I hope she rots and someone bankrupts her and her family.
I don't agree, usually I'd take someone like her more serious than, what I tend to perceive as a shallow make up doll. It is not about being attractive it is about looking trustworthy, intelligent, it is more about Charisma. And I think she actually has some, be it not much. But Charisma isn't that much about looks as it is about energy, behaviour, connecting. There is actually some interesting scientific research being done on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by rvg
Is this about looks, no. Might not help her, but no. She has quite extreme ideas, which clearly serve her purpose and she puts it fairly blunt as well. An agenda that we not only share, but can't relate to at all as well. She had everything against her in the video, looks perhaps least of all.
Being a hideous toad does not help anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moros
No, but it is not what is the cause of averse reaction, not in the slightest. If she was a prostitute, perhaps then it may really have been rather detrimental for her err..."business". But not when stating merely an opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by rvg
Also being ugly or something can be used to win over hearts as well. You can relate better to or have more empathy for someone who gets misjudged for their looks. Look at that Paul Potts guy, sure he had talent, but it was also him being so down to earth and yes not a pretty picture. That's why people wanted him to win. Or that guy who won the American Idols, who couldn't even really sing. Also I'm not sure why we are discussing her looks either. Are we going to compare Obama's looks with Romney as well? Is that why Ron Paul didn't have a chance? Surely Palin should have won last time, I mean if Merkel and Tatcher can hit the jackpot...
This is too silly.
So, now it's advantage of sorts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moros
You're not familiar with Johan Cruyff are you? ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by rvg
"Elk voordeel eb zijn nadeel"
No, I say it can be. It cannot be. But it's not factor here. And tends not be much of a major factor either. Sure she wouldn't have much credibility when talking about dieting and exercise, but that's not subject. This is getting silly. Meh. See you in a different thread.
Well, in this case it's clearly not. Are you willing to argue otherwise?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moros
Why are we even discussing this? Why is her appearance relevant to what she says/does?
This is a woman who demanded a seat on the board of Fairfax but was refused because she didn't want to sign the code of editorial independence and wanted to be able to hire and fire editors as she saw fit. This was completely in line with a speech she paid Lord Monckton to deliver in which he encouraged the mining sector to buy up the media so that they could directly change the discourse of Australian free-market thought and thus serve their own interests.
So I ask again - why are we discussing her appearance?
Why not? It's a thread about her, why can't we discuss her appearance as well? After all it's a part of who she is.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
It is an irrelevant part.Quote:
Originally Posted by rvg
That's a matter of opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
Because fat chics are liars. Fact.
Agree with most of your statement however $50 US = $47 AU... This is important because the very reason our workers are less competitive is that the Aussie dollar has strengthen by 50% due to the very mining boom that Ms Rhinehart has made her fortune from.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore