The questions have had about as much thought put into them as a "which japanese cartoon character are you?" quiz.
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The questions have had about as much thought put into them as a "which japanese cartoon character are you?" quiz.
I think the test doesn't reflect my views accurately.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crandar
I guess I'm as in the middle as I thought: https://8values.github.io/results.ht...&g=54.6&s=59.4
Closest Match: Centrist
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The questions are certainly vague, there are a lot where I'd have a caveat for agree and disagree so I selected neutral
Yeah, the test scores bad if you do too many neutral. On the other hand, it does bad if you do too many "strongly agree/disagree". Moderation seems to be the key.
This is the first time I hear that physics has hazy foundations. I wonder what sciences you consider more complete in their tenets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
I would say not on Catholicism, but on Christianity. But for any hard core Catholic inventing an alternative universe not in line with Catholic/Christian view expounded in the Bible would be unthinkanble, don't you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
Eowyn and especially Arwen. The desire to marry the latter was one of the chief motifs Aragorn had to fight the war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
Physics has a lot of areas that are presently theoretical and not exactly empirically provable. Chemistry and biology, for all their own hazy areas, are at least empirically testable on this planet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilrandir
English Catholicism is probably different from those other breeds that you're thinking of. For one, a brief period under Mary Tudor apart, it has not been able to use the state to enforce its tenets, but has had to exist however it could. I'm not a massive expert on the subject, but AFAICS it's not much different in tone from the tea and scones fundamentalism of the modern CofE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilrandir
How we got on LoTR is beyond me, but I'll interject anyhow.
The social structure in LoTR is class divided, race divided, with each ruled by a benevolent oligarchy; Mordor is a bit of an exception with the unquestioned supremacy of Sauron.
As presented, no enforcement is required: it the obvious outcome of the mythical situation.
It strikes me as the achievement of the medieval ideal posited by the Great Chain of Being.
It seems accurate to me, but then I appear to be normative according to this test.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
Note that all Brits (except extreme-right outliers) will support the NHS, likely pushing the average British result to the Left on the economic axis.
Being no specialist in either of these spheres, I still greatly doubt your claim. For example, there are some areas of biology which are completely founded on hypotheses and can't be empirically tested, like paleobiology (the dinosaurs' ways of life, hide color, voice etc.). Moreover, there are many questions as to the functions of some organs of the living organisms. I'm sure chemistry abounds in such issues as well. So I suspect you have a special grudge against physics. Poor test results in grade 9? ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
Since we are talking of Tolkien's world as a reflection of universal Christian tenets and myths, the breeds of Catholicism involved really don't matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
Now you understand what value is the genuine one. :hail:Quote:
Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny
I'm afraid one can't make general conclusions pertaining to all LoTR societies.Quote:
Originally Posted by HopAlongBunny
First of all, I don't think one can talk of oligarchy in Middle-earth since industry (if we can speak of one) and land aren't owned by a small group of Dwarves, Hobbits or Elves. The power belongs to the clans with the most respected predigree, so to say. Moreover, some societies (like Hobbits) aren't in fact ruled by anyone: "The Shire at this time had hardly any 'government'. Families for the most part managed their own affairs." (Fellowship of the ring, Of the Ordering of the Shire).
And as for the exceptions, you didn't mention Saruman.
"The Lord of the Rings is of course a fundamentally religious and Catholic work; unconsciously so at first, but consciously in the revision. That is why I have not put in, or have cut out, practically all references to anything like 'religion', to cults or practices, in the imaginary world. For the religious element is absorbed into the story and the symbolism."Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilrandir
No. 142: letter to his friend Robert Murray, S.J. (December 1953)
I don't see how being Catholic cancels being Christian. And if we zoom out of LoTR and look at the whole legendarium we see that it establishes its own universe whose origin is definitely at variance with the Christian tradition starting from its creation out of Music. The religious background of the legendarium is richer than just Catholicism or even Christianity with the admixture of Scandinavian and even Greek mythology.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
I'm just quoting Tolkien on his own creation. I'm guessing you're a fan of "The Death of the Author".Quote:
Originally Posted by Gilrandir
If you mean Barth's conception -I heard about it but never dug deep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
Nice to hear from you, especially as you are no longer burdened with the red.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ser Clegane
Howdy neighbour