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Nice idea Razor1952, have you also thought about maybe modding them so that only the various moslem and the byantines are the only factions able to create them?
Just an idea but sounds more historically apt. (also gives another difference between the factions?) ie. their sort of then the moslem counter balance for the catholics inquisitors???
My assassin started out with 5 valor and he killed about 3 or 4 emissaries and princesses and still didn't gain any valor. Then on his last mission to kill an emissary, he died. The mission said it had a 97% success rate. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/frown.gif
Having spent many games training and observing agent promotions, the following is my best guess.
Each star requires a set number of successes based on this formula.
rating = 2^(new rating-1).
eg
a 0 star inquisitor
needs 1 success to get 1 star
needs 4 successes to get 3 stars (2 to raise from 2)
needs 64 successes to get 7 stars (32 to raise from 6)
needs 256 successes to get 9 stars (128 to raise from 8)
Certain actions are worth more successes, the number of successes that an action earns seems to equal the number of stars of the victim minus 1.
I may be wrong about this too and you may get different result with your own testing.
I use assasins in my territory regularly to kill of intruding Inquisitors. I also kill of Emissaries that are moving through my territory towards enemies, I don't want them forging any bonds. Emissaries provide easy training grounds for assasins.
I have had zero success at using assasins against faction leaders or princes. I always build Border Forts first off the kill of as many threats as possible and later in the game the AI's Border Forts are just as effective as mine are.
Welcome to the Org Quokka. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif There are emissaries in these forums, so I don't want you going around killing them, okay? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/shock.gif
I know what you mean. It is something that really pisses me off about the computer. It pointlessly moves its men around continually as a meta-defense against assasins.Quote:
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What is worse is the whole thing is illogical. If you travel every year then an assasin should have a much easier time catching you on a ship out at sea or on the road between towns and finish you off quickly.
Instead the AI's bastard habit of moving everyone every turn makes some of his agents effectively immortal.
Assassins never last very long, and against high ranking targets they have a strong tendency to come out somewhat dead. I did find a good way to boost an assassin's valour is targeting princesses. They seem to be a bit easier to kill than generals or royal males ( I've had more luck anyway ), but still give a fair amount of valour to the assassin. Don't know if there is any negative effect for doing this ( merciless slaughter of innocent maidens and all that ) but I haven't noticed any.
It is a lot easier to build up an assassin in your own territories as well. Especially when the Almohads are sending 4 or 5 emissaries into one of your regions to spy on you, and when you've killed them, another four or five get sent ( This process is still going on, seemingly indefinitely, in my current game )
Miltiades, welcome to the Entrance Hall. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wave.gif
The only negative is when your mother, sister, girlfriend or wife looks over your shoulder and sees what you are doing... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gifQuote:
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In my view they dont work as well as they should i even once
started a game where i changed the text file and gave myself 9 star agents they all got done in pretty quickly.
Bribbing with emmisaries is generally my tactic along with a cardinal or two to get some money from ol popey
Someone said that it is impossible to assasinate your own King but it is http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif I once was fooling around and made a valour 9 assasin and it said something like Are you sure sir that you want to order your own assasination? And it worked I killed my own King
Yesterday (this early morning, to be precise http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...icons/wink.gif ) I set a three-star inquisitor against a German general with *zero* faith. The odds were 100%, but the inquisitor tried the guy and decided he was innocent http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/frown.gif
Thanks for the welcomeQuote:
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Don't worry, I'll keep watch for any female intervention http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...cons/joker.gif
I tend to prefer inquisitors myself. I recentl dropped one in Bavaria, during a war with the HRE, and he dismantled the province the stacks moved out and I waltzed right in with a 4 unit army. Granted it was decimated but it was a good buffer province after peace was made.