Printable View
I didn't know the theme from Police Academy was in there? http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg.../gc-jester.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by [b
Great write-up Alrowan I enjoyed reading that Pity though the game just ends isn't it?
http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...-2thumbsup.gif
russia would surely pay if they were to wage war.
look at st petersburg, right inside the middle of his kingdom.
thanks, desmond
well it seems like they will be in trouble, id actually would have liked it if i could just own the damn city though. Espcially in the last war. They had 450000 men cooped up in that little spot when the war started, so i held off joining the war till the numbes dropped to a reasonable number, at least one i could contain.
Anyway, i tihnk ill be starting a new thread for my next campagin, ill probably play somewhere in the americas this time, either texas, mexico or the USA
Texas would be interesting, but very tough, seeing as they start the game a war with mexico, so id have to go into an early debt if i want to win, and it could put me behind later on.
Mexico could be fun, but i fear handling the USA as my neighbour might get tough, especially if they decide on winning the 1st mexican war :-/
The USA could prove a fun challenge, i guess i would try my hand at conquering mexico early, then launching a campagin to Panama, to try open up the canal - t would give me many more options later on with expansion and a pacific empire.
Though there is one campagin i would try avoiding, and that is Japanese, its possible to do well with them, but you have to be an ace at industrialisation, to get them prepped for becoming a civilised nation. Last time i had a go at them, i found research to be a major pain in the ass, taking 20 years just to learn 2 techs... http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/gc-wall.gif (you can let the dutch come to aid you, but you become a satelite nation of them, and face a tonn of revolts.)
I seriously need help with Victoria. It seems so fun, but I can't make money or win wars. http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...s/confused.gif
Go here:Quote:
Originally Posted by [b
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/...d.php?t=114470
That'll surely help http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cg...ns/biggrin.gif Everything you need to know is in there
I'm having a great time playing a brazil game.
I HAVE ACTUALLY WORKED OUT HOW TO PLAY IT
I never actually got HOI but I get this THIS GAME ROCKS
heh, in my US game ive had 2 mexican wars, actually make that three. The first one was a stalemate, the 2nd 2 mexico got entirely conquered, so i got huge swathes of land :)
already have it bookmarked.. theres just so much to remember and so much to learn http://www.totalwar.org/forum/non-cgi/emoticons/eek.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by [b
Guys how do you set things like auto trade? i cant seem to get a nation with anysort of income im playing as the usa in the first campaign but keep getting into warswith mexico that i cant cope with :( its gettig very frustrating i ally with texas but we get our butts whooped. What other things can i set to auto that i might be missing for now and how do i set them?
all i can say is practice swoosh, all the things are on auto that you need from the start, it sounds like you need to figure out the military thing.
best thing to do it mobilise, the USA start with 3 divisions that can be mobilised. And then convert POPs into soldiers, and make some divisions.
then woop mexicos asses
the best way is to play defensivly early, but sntach up provs that dont have men defending them. Eventually mexico will tire and opt for peace.
The AI is also really bad at defending and taking colonies, so snatch up those at the start, but dont defend ur own (it wont take them)
Swoosh, USA is absolutely NOT the best choice for a new player. The best choices to actually understand the game mechanics and have some initial success, are:
- Brazil. Isolated, with several problems but also several strong points, plays smoothly and offers a very good game. There is a guide on Paradox forums somewhere (and VickyWicky) on how to play with Brazil. Perfect for noobs like me (just managed a Brazil game on Normal, Great Power and 2nd overall in 1892 - UK is unbeatable when you start with anything below France and Russia and maybe Prussia).
- Belgium. You start at war w/ the Netherlands, but soon the London treaty event kicks in and usually Netherlands accepts Belgium independence. After that, you got several rich provinces (even though manpower is not as high as it could) good industrial basis and good relations with UK - a key to success in the first decades. You have the chance to colonize several sweet spots (Cameroon might be a good starting point) and if you absolutely need some nearby land, just DoW the Netherlands (watch BB though, it's gonna skyrocket if you annex them).
- Sweden. Will introduce you to the management of a larger (province-wise) country, and will force you to manage well your POPs and ongoing industrialization. Other than that, Sweden is a surefire survivor and a fun and relatively easy game overall. Just keep good relations with Russia (until you are strong enough and with adequate alliances to challenge them in Finland - I am playing now Sweden and in 1853 I am a Great Power on spot #5, mostly thanks to my high prestige. But I haven't got a military worth speaking about, so Russia can crush me any moment. That is why I am allied to them and also to Prussia and Austria. OTOH, I've already fought a war alongside Prussia, Russia and Austria against the allmighty UK - their sea power is very annoying)
If you are a newbie you want to stay clear from UK (huge micromanagement nightmare) Russia (same) USA (huge, lots of issues, complicated) Prussia (lots of events that could ruin you in a few years and you have to have mastered the diplomatic and economic model of the game to make it with them) and any uncivilized nation (it's tough to become civilized).
Yep Swoosh, like Rosacrux says do not start with the USA Pick one of the nations he mentions. Also follow the link in my previous post, (almost) everything you wanna know about the game can be found in there, including the link to Novembers Newbie guide playing as Brazil
Im a Vicky lover too It is complicated but worth it.
Japan in 1881 campaign, I thought was good to practice with. They start with a lot of good factories and resources. And it is well easy to take large parts of Korea with your superior armies.
BTW, on the Vicky forums I am slowly trying to gather info on how to make a new scenario.
I wanted to do the Harry Turtledove stuff and this game is perfect for it. If anyone is interested in this or manages to gather some scenario modding tips, get over to the Victoria scenarios and mods page pronto...
Also, forgot this also,
There was talk on the vicky forums of a Byzantine mod How cool would that be?
Kick out the Ottoman Empire and fight for the glory of Constantinople
I just noticed Froggy's newbie AAR the other day and I have to say that it's great It's by far the most entertaining one that I've come across. I recommend it to any former vicky newbies, as it should bring back some fond (relative term) memories. Can't wait for the next update.
Ok FINALLY worked out what im doing (well almost) lol i dident know u could convert farmers to soldiers no wonder mexico alway kicked my butt ehehe the good old national draft im curretly playing as mexico and now have texas as a sattelite i also conquered the united states of CENTRAL america then the usa got annoyed and told me to stop colonising :\ after they put armies all over my borders i decided to cut my military budget and improve relations with them gah i had every province right down to columbia at that poin then for no reason i could work out the British came sailing over and kicked my butT after drafting almost every farmer i could get my hands on and ruining my economy in a war i couldent win i finally saw the light and sited for peace offering them about half of the provinces id earlier conquered that seems to have worked for now https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...c-confused.gif
My economy is finally doing great and im trading quite well stocking up and selling when price is right,i got bored trading and buildng tho so sent some forces to gain military experience with the brits (dident want a weak army after years of peace), ive now decided to wage war on korea :P it will be tough as im sure they can moblise hundreds of thousands but i doubt they canstrike back at me if things go wrong https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...icons/wink.gif
Anyway has anyone tried multiplayer? If anyone wants go give me a shout :) Would be interesing to see what such a game would turn out like,just a pity CA cant even manage it and their games 100x simpler https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no.../gc-dizzy2.gif WAKE UP CA
Then you will probably be happy to hear I suffered yet another humiliating defeat again today; everything was going so well until I declared war on Peru as Brazil...Quote:
Originally Posted by [b
If anyone else is interested in pointing and laughing at a newbie you can find the details in Froggy's manic scribblings over at paradox.
I might as well give my recommendations for future nations that you should give a shot.
Mexico's not half bad (they were the first nation that I had success with atleast). Its hard not to win the initial war against Texas (you don't even need to think about mobilizing), and when you do, you'll get a early lead in prestige. From there I recommend getting on good terms with the US (ie. sell them the states they ask for and use your diplomats to further improve relations, or even form an alliance). Without having to worry about the states, you should be able to sail smoothly until atleast the 1860s when Europe starts to meddle in your affairs....
It might be a good idea to look into Sweden too. If not just for the fact that they're pretty stable and have a great tech-lead, then atleast to ruffle the feathers of Paradox's Swedish devs if you manage to take their glorious country for a plunge. https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...ns/biggrin.gif
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by [b
THat was a hard war. I OWNED THOSE DAMN PERUVIANS
HAHAHHAHA I conqured all there land but it wouldn't let me annex em....
SO I just took all there good provinces.
Sweden...Paradox always make their home extra strong...this could be fun https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...geishagrin.gif
The great Peruvian war; everything was going so well, my two allies waded in, my troops were capturing provinces, I had about 1/5 of their land...and then Peru mobilised. Talk about being outnumbered; my 18,000 remaining troops against 80,000 angry Peruvians https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...ticons/eek.gif I think you can guess the rest, and since I've told the story once in my AAR I won't repeat myself.
Warfare is so different in Vicky, it was much easier in CK and EU2; I'm still adjusting and learning the basics.
Yep mobilisation and your mobilistation pool is the key to an enormous all-conquering army. Playing Austria I increased my mobilisation pool whenever possible up to the point where I could mobilise some 4 million soldiers.Quote:
Originally Posted by [b
But to make it really work you need a standing army of specialists: artillery and elite units. Merge these units with mobilised units up to armies of 100000 (to keep attrition at reasonable levels). Generate as many generals as possible, place the ones that reduce attrition at the head of bigger armies.
Mobilise (this will alert your neihbours tough, but usually if your pool is big enough there's nothing they can do about it) and when mobilisation is complete declare war and roll all over your opponents in months.
Another plus is you don't spend loads of cash on a huge standing army. You just mobilise when you need it.
There are three big downsides tough:
* mobilised units that lose men -> you lose men in your regular pop's, these are the guys actually harvesting and working in your plants so I try to use mobilised units from industrialised provinces as backups to limit losses on pops that drive my economy. So mobilising for a defensive war you can't win will leave your economy in ruins as you probably still have to give up good provinces and half your working force lies dead on the battlefield. Better to settle peace asap and just give up some provinces.
* it takes time to mobilise when you are being attacked: expect to get a spanking in the earlier stages of the war. Don't commit your specialists just yet, you need them for your comeback. Just let them occupy a few provinces untill mobilisation has completed and strike back hard. (I guess this is what happened to froggy)
* mobilised pop's don't work -> expect to lose enormous amounts of cash so take care of business quickly (should be no problem with a huge army)
Why didn't you reinforce? Was your manpower in the negatives? After mobilization? https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...s/confused.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by [b
my favorites are massive day mp campaigns where you have a few massive european nations (we were france, UK, Germany united with Austria, Russia, and unified Italy as well.)
well germany and france went to war, uk backed france, spain backed france, USA backed france, denmark and sweden backed france, italy back germany, russia backed germany and netherlands backed germany.
not exactly like the WW but just as many troops.
there must have been over 40 million troops mobilised.
thanks,
dessa
When I play a non-all out aggresive game, I never mobilise. In my current Sweden game I've yet (yet: 1891) to mobilise. Why, you'd ask... well, it's simple: Sweden has (until it manages to get a few colonies running and wins a colonial war with a minor or two) precious little manpower. I am hardly covering the needs of my decent industry, by converting all my Swedish-Norwegian agrarian POPs to craftsmen-clerks. I couldn't afford having them drafted and returned (if) as labourers-farmers again. Just couldn't afford it.
So, I have increased gradually my standing army to a decent point (like 16 divisions or such, all with attached brigades) and this was my sole tool in snatching away from Russia several colonies in our first colonial war. After the increased manpower flew in, I stabilised my economy and then recruited 8 more divisions (natives, I fear) to help me to capture my holy grail of sorts: Korea POPs, hundreds of huge POPs and most importantly IRON My Steel factories need badly Iron, so does the rest of my heavy industry.
Well, I annexed Korea (after one extremely tough and one easy war) and before I managed to actually pull together (and start taking advantage of Korean manpower) Russia DoWed me Well, that was tough, and a close call. Managed to pull off a white peace (thanks to my allies UK and Germany fairing well against Russians all over) and now I am building up my armed forces, to DoW Russia and take away Finland from them
I am up to the 40 divisions and still creating more every now and then. More than half are natives, but with good leaders, attached brigades (arty, engineers mostly) and some fighting experience, they might actually make it.
I am also enlarging my mobilization pool - now I am up to 30 divisions and rising... In the second (third, if you count the colonial too) war between Sweden and Russia, I think I'll mobilize for the first time https://forums.totalwar.org/forum/no...icons/wink.gif
The chain of events that lead to the Peruvian disaster were quite simple newbie mistakes. I built my army out of permanent standing divisions, just like in EU2; I reinforced them until I ran out of manpower, but forgot you could convert pops to soldiers to gain a manpower boost. I also forgot a country can call up its population to fight in emergencies, so Peru got a massive boost while I kept using professional soldiers only. I occupied huge tracts of land but the scoring system is slightly different, so the profitable peace I could have forced in EU2/CK was not possible in Vicky. I did have good generals, not the random bunglers; that at least I did get right.
I tried to fight CK/EU2 style; Vicky is too different for that to work.
They return to what they were I think. Not really sure tough as I rarely mobilise troops from industrialised provinces.Quote:
Originally Posted by [b
With standing armies you can never get those massive millions large armies that's why I always use mobilisation. When I invaded the Ottoman empire with 20 armies of 100000 men I got the warscore I needed to get the peace deal I wanted within months. If the AI sees you still have massive armies while his are all but annihalited you can get some very good peace deals without needing massive warscore.
But I agree it's not a feasible tactic for every nation, with belgium I used a huge standing army made up almost entirely out of African natives while the heavily-industrilaised home provinces easily paid for them.
mobilized POPs often do return as labourers or farmers even though they left as clerks/craftsmen.
Which I think is real stupid....what did they forget how to do their jobs???
i had a standing army of 1million as the USA in my campagin... though it still didnt help when the brits attacked me :-/
Well if you were just traumatized by being thrown into a war, do you thin that you could handle returning to your day-job at the ammunitions factor? I know I'd probably prefer a nice, cushy job slaving away in some cotton field. Just pretend that all draftees fall victim to severe shell shock that prevents them from working around heavy machinery. Either that or pray that Paradox fixes this for 1.4Quote:
Originally Posted by [b
Well I imagine if the war goes on long enough then yest htey would forget their jobs and more importatnnly become poor.