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Er no blood in ancient battles? What are your sources? If I clock you in the head with a sword or spear something is gonna come out, granted your made of mostly fluids. Not to mention alot of the ancient units use axes... If some one could somehow mod it then im fine, but its really yucky to NOT see any gore. It kinda looks like they are acting for a movie battle, and all the realistic blood and gore is gonna be edited in later.
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The RTW trailers all have Teen ratings now. If you add blood, limbs getting hacked off, spears in the eye, etc. it will go to Mature or Adult. I'll bet CA doesn't want that.
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There has to be something wrong about a society which is happy to let kids play a game about killing thousands of "people" but doesn't want to see any blood. Death and killing is fine but gore is not? Some strange morality there I think.
Still going to buy the game though!
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Originally Posted by King Azzole
Er no blood in ancient battles? What are your sources?
I have no idea what you are talking about. I didn't say that there was no blood, I just mentioned that it wasn't flying around. Basic medical knowledge can back me up on this: if you hit a human with an axe, his body doesn't behave like a bag of water but as a solid object. The blood certainly doesn't squirt out in streams. Battles tend to raise more dust, mud and sweat than blood. I the corpse fell to the ground, then blood would leak away and form a puddle, but one of the properties of the blood-system is that it is self-sealing so the puddle need not be big.
You would expect the corpse to be mutiliated too and that doesn't happen either. I find all this fuss about blood strange, since no one mentions the absence of mutiliated corpses or even the precense of wounds on soldiers. And frankly, I don't want those in the game either. I can see enough of those when I open the books I am studying.
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I didn't say that there was no blood, I just mentioned that it wasn't flying around. Basic medical knowledge can back me up on this:
read books made by modern soldiers.... they will ALL say blood is WORSE in real life than they ever imagined, and much worse than films show it.
Yes blood does literally "squirt all over the place"
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Originally Posted by RTKLamorak
read books made by modern soldiers.... they will ALL say blood is WORSE in real life than they ever imagined, and much worse than films show it.
Yes blood does literally "squirt all over the place"
I think there is a difference between the kind of wounds a gun makes and the ones a sword makes. Not to say decapitation would be pretty messy, but I doubt a sword can approach the force of a hail of close-range bullets.
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I doubt a sword can approach the force of a hail of close-range bullets.
Huh? You think a 3" by 12" sword would make a cleaner wound then a 1/4" bullet?
There was blood in STW/MTW wasn't there? I seem to recall pools of blood by the corpses.
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Wow. I am in two fierce discussions at the same time. I guess I need to chill down ~:joker: .
Right: battles were (and are) a messy business but I am not quite sure that at the end of every battle people were wading through pools of blood. Especially not because this is not the same as a close-range gun fight, which sends dozens of lead pellets right through the body in stead of just making a single one-sided stab (I am exagarating here). Most of the blood in a battle would be on the corpses or on the swords, not flying through the air and lying in pools. And given the general cleanliness of TW battles (no dust or mud or even sweated soldiers) I think blood would be really out of place.
But that's my opinion.
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I think blood would be really out of place.
of course everyone is entitled to their opinion!! ~:wacko: , but blood being "out of place" in a battle showing thousands of soliders meeting in close quarter combat with brutal weaponary is a difficult concept me to even begin to grasp lol :)
Im not saying there should be a river of blood after a batle or anything, but SOME blood is a pre-requisite of ANY realistic game involving combat. yes RTW isnt totally realistic, and games dont have to be realistic to be fun but a battle without blood is like a game of football without a football imo ~:dizzy:
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Like I said, a blood and gore slider would be nice, with a password parent protection feature. That should keep it below mature level.
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of course everyone is entitled to their opinion!! ~:wacko: , but blood being "out of place" in a battle showing thousands of soliders meeting in close quarter combat with brutal weaponary is a difficult concept me to even begin to grasp lol :)
You do realize you are pulling my words out of context, do you ~:joker: ? Blood is not out of place on a real battlefield, but it is out of place on a battlefield that lacks the other important ingredients of a glorious battle: mud, dust, earth and sweat.
Do you think that blood was the only thing to soil the ground? Blood was only one of the things that made battles messy, and depending on the circumstances it could be only a minor part. So why is everybody claiming that blood is realistic while nobody mentions dust or sweat?
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Yeah, I agree with Ludens - TW for me is like playing with toy soldiers in the sandpit. I know some kids might like their GI Joes to start spewing red goo, but not me.