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Re: An apology to JAG dirested by Saturnas
'I fought the law and the.... law won'
It's nice that you guys are rebels with a cause and all but how is it that I've been able to express my conservative viewpoint and have never recieved so much as a pm warning for my posts? I doubt Redleg or Pindar have either. I think there may be some distinct differences in our posting styles, maybe not for the better in y'alls case. You can't beat the law guys ~;)
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Re: An apology to JAG dirested by Saturnas
And why is this thread still up?
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because it still serves a pourpose.
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Re: An apology to JAG dirested by Saturnas
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Originally Posted by Teutonic Knight
'I fought the law and the.... law won'
It's nice that you guys are rebels with a cause and all but how is it that I've been able to express my conservative viewpoint and have never recieved so much as a pm warning for my posts? I doubt Redleg or Pindar have either. I think there may be some distinct differences in our posting styles, maybe not for the better in y'alls case. You can't beat the law guys ~;)
Exactly. But sometimes I'm a rebel without a cause!!! I'm a very hard headed person and very opinionated and have NEVER been abdle to use tact with much success. That's why I'm an E-5 with almost 10 years in the Air Force!!! ~:joker: When I say things, a lot of the times, I don't quite take a gentle aproach to it. Just ask some of my troops!!!
Capo, I don't thing that Tim was being hostile. He stated why and you kind of shot back. Read what he wrot and what you wrote again, you'll see. Sometimes it takes someone from outside of a disagreement to see the tone. I'm such a hypocrite!!! ~:rolleyes: But I that's just who I am. Yes, I'll admit I'm a bit self rightous and always want the last word, but as we all can see, sometimes its better to choose your battles carefully.
Back to the moderation. Could one of the mods explain the process of how the moderators deliberate corrective action against violators? In my case, and in the case of repeat offenders, does the leash get shorter and shorter? Thanks for the insight thus far....
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Re: An apology to JAG dirested by Saturnas
Hello,
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Originally Posted by Capo of Arabia
and although I did not read Daves posts, I assume that I have done nearly the same thing and have not been demoted. thats all.
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Originally Posted by Capo of Arabia
..myself because I have done 10x worse than you in posting etiquite
~:confused:
Dave
It's pretty likely to happen when things spiral down. But it's a case by case thing and viewed from different angles in staff PM discussions. Your haircolor is irrelevant.
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I am deeply disturbed that after all the trolling I have only received a warning once, and it didn't even come with a yellow card. I thought I was worth more then that ~:pissed: Maybe I should resort to personal attacks as well, may the rats eat your eyes!!!!!!
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We'll implement an e-shop shortly. You can purchase yellow cards for only 1,000 e-gold to cheer up your account. Demotions will be 2,000 and 2-weeks bans 20,000.
Nederlanders kunnen ook 100 euro overmaken ~:joker:
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I'll have a demotion, will you take credit cards? ~:joker:
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Au contraire TK does Tosa accept transfers ti and from swiss bank accounts, i'll have a two week ban hehe ~:joker: ~:joker:
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Hell, I'll just sell you guys some of mine. Just come on down to "Dave's Discount Yellow Cards and Warning Store". We're open 24 hours/7 days a week. Your one stop shop for right wing propaganda and tea bagging suggestions for multiple family members!!! ~:joker:
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Originally Posted by Capo of Arabia
My latest screw up was back on september 1st wen I used cencored versions of the word f*** in a post, a rant more like it, but I didn't get a warning. Also, before that my record has nearly been spotless this summer.
Also, ok, now I getcha. I was just saying that I have been in a situation similar to Dave
("racist" comments, flame wars, etc. and although I did not read Daves posts, I assume that I have done nearly the same thing and have not been demoted. thats all.
And why are you being so hostile Hosa, what did i say THIS time?
I am not being hostile toward you Capo. I'm trying to steer you away from unacceptable posting behavior in the forum. I much prefer to reason with you than to have you demoted. I believe you are reading something into my words that isn't intended to be there.
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JAG and I have gone back and forth forever and a day. Does it mean I hate him, hell no, he's a great guy and I've promised him that if he's ever in the States, he can saty at my house and I'm going to take him on a tour to some Civil War battle fields. We both know what gets under out skins and we both, I'm sure, enjoy the rhetorical boxing match.
I thought Jag was my nemisis. Way to go Jag ~:joker: I though have learned to control my animal instincts ~D
You guys need a sense of humor. I look on Dave as the Howard Stern ov conservatism. Hes so over the top you cant take him serious. Come on admit it he cracks you before you get pissed.
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Why does banning Dave remind me of The Great Escape where they keep putting Steve McQueen in solitary?
Exaclty :laugh4:
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I've been able to express my conservative viewpoint and have never recieved so much as a pm warning for my posts? I doubt Redleg or Pindar have either
Redleg never got so much as a warning :mad: Ask him about it ~:joker:
As for Pindar I have become convinced he is really just a computer like Hal in 2001.
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[QUOTE=Gawain of Orkeny]I thought Jag was my nemisis. Way to go Jag ~:joker: I though have learned to control my animal instincts ~D
Well, you are now good buddy since Sat said he'll never let me back into the backroom again!!! ~:joker:
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LOL - I have gotten a few PM's concerning Yellow Cards and even a minor punishment once or twice - the have to wait 2 minutes between posts and no editing.
I normally don't get to offensive unless someone's over the top comment gets my temper and emotions up. Other then that I try to use reason - before emotion. But even then I sometimes go to emotion in my response - especially given some comments by certain individuals in the tavern.
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D.Dave wrote: "...since Sat said he'll never let me back into the backroom again!!!
He said 'never'? Not what I read here, in the PM you publicly posted. I thought his conditions for your restored status where the reason you started this thread....to make fun of your demotion and the obviously humorless, over-reactive mods.
Sheesh.
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Dave, I couldn´t care less whether you think I´m biased. You know, you´re in good company. You can get worked up about our Moderation if that makes you happy. My concern is the state the Tavern is in. And I consider it my job to make sure that people who want to hang out in the Tavern don´t have to read posts like the one I had to delete. That post was of the kind that makes members leave and never return. Since all actions we took against you before were obviously in vain, tell me what choice we have to prevent such things from happen? That´s why I for one, don´t consider your demotion as a simple time out after that you can go on like before. What I wanna see is a lasting change. Either a change in your behaviour or in your presence. I would prefer the first option, but the choice is yours.
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Originally Posted by A.Saturnus
Dave, I couldn´t care less whether you think I´m biased. You know, you´re in good company. You can get worked up about our Moderation if that makes you happy. My concern is the state the Tavern is in. And I consider it my job to make sure that people who want to hang out in the Tavern don´t have to read posts like the one I had to delete. That post was of the kind that makes members leave and never return. Since all actions we took against you before were obviously in vain, tell me what choice we have to prevent such things from happen? That´s why I for one, don´t consider your demotion as a simple time out after that you can go on like before. What I wanna see is a lasting change. Either a change in your behaviour or in your presence. I would prefer the first option, but the choice is yours.
Man, who pissed in your pourage this morning!!! ~D
I've already went through the situation, so I'm not going to go through it again. You sit back and let everyone on the left call people whatever they want then you jump in when someone on the right stands up against the flame. So, yes, you're biased and the fact that you posted what you just did shows that you have issues with someone pointing out your bias. So calm down, relax, and continue your "even handed" moderation. Have you even read through this thread? Didn't you see the attempt to be reasonable? Of course you didn't. That would require you to let go of some of your biases. :book:
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Re: An apology to JAG dirested by Saturnas
This thread makes me worried that one day soon the moderators are going to get fed up with spending their leisure time moderating the tavern, a seemingly thankless task, and recommend to the admin that it should be shut down. And I think it would be a shame if that was to happen.
It seems to me that half the time when the moderators edit some swearing or a flame, they get accused of political bias. I've seen the moderators being accused of being biased against the left on more than one occasion as well, and I have come to think that accusing the moderators of bias is basically like a football manager who blames biased refereeing for the fact that his team is bottom of the league.
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Man, who pissed in your pourage this morning!!! ~D
I've already went through the situation, so I'm not going to go through it again. You sit back and let everyone on the left call people whatever they want then you jump in when someone on the right stands up against the flame. So, yes, you're biased and the fact that you posted what you just did shows that you have issues with someone pointing out your bias. So calm down, relax, and continue your "even handed" moderation. Have you even read through this thread? Didn't you see the attempt to be reasonable? Of course you didn't. That would require you to let go of some of your biases. :book:
It's funny to hear you say that Dave. Only recently I blasted the mods in a private message for my perception of them allowing the conservatives to make hateful, racist remarks freely, but then giving warnings to and editing/deleting the posts of liberals who called the conservatives on their racism and hate.
I guess that means the mods are doing a good job.
If both camps are unhappy with their decisions, they are probably making the right decisions.
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It's funny to hear you say that Dave. Only recently I blasted the mods in a private message for my perception of them allowing the conservatives to make hateful, racist remarks freely, but then giving warnings to and editing/deleting the posts of liberals who called the conservatives on their racism and hate.
I guess that means the mods are doing a good job.
If both camps are unhappy with their decisions, they are probably making the right decisions.
Mods blast LIBERALS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
No offence, but that was hillarious, you made my day
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It seems some kids can be made happy quite easily... ~:handball:
Good for you, Capo.
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Oh that American main stream media was as fair and balanced as our beloved moderators ~:cheers:
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Mods blast LIBERALS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
No offence, but that was hillarious, you made my day
Once again Capo, you have made an ignorant statement without any thought to what might really be going on. Did you ever stop to think that maybe there are a lot of warnings/scoldings issued to liberals in the Org that you don't know about because they are done via private message? I guess not.
~:rolleyes:
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Once again Capo, you have made an ignorant statement without any thought to what might really be going on. Did you ever stop to think that maybe there are a lot of warnings/scoldings issued to liberals in the Org that you don't know about because they are done via private message? I guess not.
~:rolleyes:
Does that mean you got a warning/scolding for calling me a racist? Somehow, I doubt it...
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I think by looking at this board we should start our own UN.
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I think by looking at this board we should start our own UN.
Nah, we've got more accomplished than the UN ever has!!! ~D
Ooops, I'm not allowed to state political things anymore since the German Ambasodor has sanctioned me!!! Better pass a resolution quick. Don't worry, I'll give some of you guys some kick backs and pay-offs, then it will really be like the UN!!!
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Does that mean you got a warning/scolding for calling me a racist? Somehow, I doubt it...
In that case no. You want to know why Dave? Two reasons:
1) I didn't say you were a racist, I said your remarks were racist.
2) Your remarks were, undoubtedly, very racist.
I have, however, been issued warnings for using such a violent and destructive weapon as sarcasm.
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Christ Goofball, it was a joke...
Stop calling me ignorant because of jokes, I may take offence to it.
Grrr, you really must hate me.
And stop calling DevDave racist. ~;)
-Capo of the Regime of the Arabia aka Stupidus the Prick and the one everyone hates.
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Originally Posted by Capo of Arabia
Christ Goofball, it was a joke...
Stop calling me ignorant because of jokes, I may take offence to it.
Grrr, you really must hate me.
And stop calling DevDave racist. ~;)
-Capo of the Regime of the Arabia aka Stupidus the Prick and the one everyone hates.
Another post that shows you paid no attention to what I actually said. I don't hate anybody in the Org. Hate is a very strong, personal, and intimate emotion. Since I have never met you, I couldn't possibly hate you. I do, however, hold some of your ideas in contempt.