King and father at 18!

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Originally Posted by nokhor

i know its obscene and all but in games mechanics what i always ended up doing, once i got too powerful, was marrying my princesses to my heirs. sure they got a secret incest vice, but the secret was never revealed and it solved my problems of unmarried princesses and my heirs marrying too late. and i could do this for generation after generation without side effects in the game, though as a player i thought it was pretty disgusting.

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This should actually be a workable tactic. It seems the inbred vices are not linked to actual inbreeding: a player once tried to gain as many inbred vices as he could be marrying all his princes to his princesses, but it did not result in so much as a single chinless wonder. The inbreeding vice does however seem to strike particular factions a lot: in my Egyptian and Almohad campaigns I couldn't move for nine-toed princes and totally inbred Sultans. Definitely not fun.

The problem with the AI is that it gets more aggressive towards you as you grow bigger. This is not unrealistic: smaller nations always banded together against greater powers that threatened them. What is unrealistic are the suicidal tendencies of the AI, but this is just generalized AI stupidity (it makes stupid attacks even when you are not a threat).

It is especially annoying because nobody wants to ally with you if you are at war with their other allies. You can try to send a princess, but they will accept her but then declare their new alliance void on the ground of the old alliance. Again: not fun. The AI does not switch allies like the human player does. Of course, the opposite also works: you can snatch their princesses without having to ally to them.

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Originally Posted by Sir Price

Hi all

I'm currently playing a GA-campaign on hard as the Danes, and something weird is going on: my king died, and the youngest of his 3 sons, 18 years old, now King Valdemar II, the same year the 17 year old Italian Princess I sent an emmisary after accepted his marriage proposal. Thats all excellent. But the following year I just wanted to check my heir-status, expecting to find his 2 older brothers still waiting in line, and finds that isn't the case. There is a new heir, 11 years old! ~:confused: I can only assume it's Valdemar's son, but how can a 19 year old king, after 1 year of marriage, have an 11 year old boy? Somethin' ain't right, right? Or as Elmer Fudd would've put it: Somethings scwewy awound here...
~:cool: ~:)

Anyways, got the game about 6 months ago, and I'm playing more now than ever before. Bloody good game! ~:cool:

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How about this as a scenario.
King
Prince I - heir
Prince II - not heir but died after having a son
- King dies, making the Prince I the new King... could not his nephew be the heir? Until Prince I has a son.

I keep a tablet and write down my heirs as they are born and their stats when they come of age. I find it greatly reduces this type of confusion.

With the Danes I have found if I am agressive early on then sometime around 1300 everybody hates me no matter my size. If I play oppertunistically then it seems just about evrybody loves me the whole way through. When a faction irritates me I do not take their land. I simply invaded them and smash them flat repeatdly due to pillage. After awhile of that they usually want a cease fire.

Hey, weird shit happened - Henry Tudor (VIIth) was born when his mother was 13.

But I'd really like to know where the chinless wonder and inbreeding vices come from (and all the drinking ones - my generals are supposed to be good pious Muslims, dammit!!)

Yeah, a lot of my Egyptian princes seem to like their alcohol a lot too! Never seen that many drinkers with other factions, but then again, I've only played a few others. ~:cheers:

@Sven-Morden: No princes died during that period, so that can't be it.