Tsunami devastates Pacific

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"There are several donors who are less generous than before in a growing world economy," he said, adding that politicians in the United States and Europe "believe that they are really burdening the taxpayers too much, and the taxpayers want to give less. It's not true. They want to give more."

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To that I can only say that people who would like to give more are free to do so without giving the money to the government first.
I personally use this liberty and have a better feeling donating my money directly to organizations like the Red Cross.

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Originally Posted by Ser Clegane

To that I can only say that people who would like to give more are free to do so without giving the money to the government first.
I personally use this liberty and have a better feeling donating my money directly to organizations like the Red Cross.

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How true -

I just heard that 29,000+ are definately dead, and it could rise to 60,000. One hell of a tidal wave. Anyways, that's nothing compared to the volcano in the canary islands. When it breaks in half, bye bye to America's western seaboard.

its at 60,000 now

It seems to become the worst Swedish accident in atleast a decade, 1500 Swedes are still missing, although the number of confirmed dead is still low. :dizzy2: ~:eek:

Lemurmania any news from your bro ?

67,000. God, thats a population of an entire city!

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Originally Posted by SwordsMaster

67,000. God, thats a population of an entire city!

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Thats 8,000 more than the population of the island I live on. Very sad.

I have an Aunt who lives in Sri Lanka but we cant get in touch with her, but havent been for a few months.

just heard that it could top 100,000 when the number from India's Bay of Bengal are known

Wow...

Do I pull this trigger and kill that person?
Do I strap all these explosives about my person and kill these people?

.......................Kind of brings things into perspective doesn't it?
About now we all need to decide how we can help our fellow man. Those poor, poor people

.........Orda

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Originally Posted by Shadow

Lemurmania any news from your bro ?

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No, there is no word. However, I have every reason to believe that he's okay. I was able to get a call through to the hotel where he was supposed to be staying, and they tried to patch me through to his room. Didn't get through, but this sort of indicates that he's where he's supposed to be, and not wrapped in plastic in a temple somewhere.

I'm now 99.999% sure he's okay. I'll get the last 0.001% if/when he calls.

Knowing him, he's probabaly pitching in to help with the dead and wounded.

It's good to heard that your brother is alive and helping with the victims instead of trying to get back after all there are more than 87,000 dead in Asia's tsunami disaster and the toll still rising so they will need all the help they can get.

84,000 confirmed dead and still rising... I really do hope the aid gets through to help, they certainly need more to be sent.

Anyway good to know your brother is ok Lemurmania.

just heard that more tidal waves are on the way, they have issued a warning in India :sad:

Todays press report..100,000 dead and still more to be accounted for.

Aid groups teamed up last night so that donations from around the world can go to a ..one stop fund.. and can be directed to where the cash is most needed.

This seems so much easier than trying to decide which organisation to donate cash to.

It is called ..Tsunami Earthquake Appeal and they are asking that donations of cash be sent to them.

In the UK the telephone Number to ring is: 0870 6060 900.
This will connect you to the Disasters Emergency Committee automated number.


Jochi

Just a friendly reminder to be very cautious when donating money to help these victims. You can bet that there are some scam artists out there who are going to try and profit from this tragedy.

*cough*oxfam,UN*cough*

Death toll is currently at 119,000 and many, many more are in dire need of basic necessities and amenities.
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...d=514&ncid=514

I am praying hard that there won't be a second major quake and appreciate that Org staff have put up an announcement for donations.

The death toll just keeps shooting up. I got up yesterday, and it was 60,000. By 4 o'clock, it had reached 80,000. By 6 o'clock, it had reached 120,000. And three quarters of those deaths are in indonesia alone. And don't worry, there won't be another quake for a long time. At least not for another 200 years.

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Originally Posted by Efrem

*cough*oxfam,UN*cough*

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Rubbish, complete rubbish. Both do great work.

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Originally Posted by JAG

Rubbish, complete rubbish. Both do great work.

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Are they affiliated with the UN? If so, I wouldn't trust them with any some og money. These people need actual help, not International buerocrats grandstanding in front of cameras then stealing the money that is suppose to go to the needy. JAG, I'm not trying to pick a fight but don't you want the people in the devastated regions to actually get the aid they need instead of the money that was given to aid them line the pockets of theives? 23 billion and counting stolen in the Oil for Food scandal and amazingly you still put trust in such a currupt organization.

Oxfam is a very respected charity in the UK and it does a hell of a lot of good work - http://www.oxfam.org.uk/ I fail to understand why Efrem has a problem with them and Dave they are also nothing to do with the UN.

On the UN, it is the single biggest hope for continuous world peace and prosperity, it needs all our work not sniping from the sidelines.

http://images.scotsman.com/2004/12/31/3112waveb.jpg

A woman wades back to help as the giant wave smashes onto the beach, sweeping boats before it. It is not known what became of any of those pictured.

Cool it with the discussions about the UN's worth. This thread is here for us to express our condolences for the victims. If you want to talk about the politics of the incident, take it to the backroom.

here's one of the best websites with info of all sorts regarding the tsunami aftermath and relief efforts
http://www.tsunamihelp.blogspot.com/

Story about the first guy notified of the quake, and his misgivings/guilt feelings:
http://dailytelegraph.news.com.au/st...toryid=2454502

One of the things the guy talks about is not knowing how to dial-up Indonesia. If I personally wanted to reach a broad international audience to warn of impending disaster (this may sound odd) I'd announce it here, at the Org, trusting that we all knew enough people to get the word out.

What would you do?

One of the things the guy talks about is not knowing how to dial-up Indonesia. If I personally wanted to reach a broad international audience to warn of impending disaster (this may sound odd) I'd announce it here, at the Org, trusting that we all knew enough people to get the word out.

What would you do?

spread it over every single forum i now and can find and asking anyone and everyone on my msn to do the same, send e-mails to goverment sites as well.

supposedly a warning would not have helped much anyway with the poor communications in most of the affected countrys..

Contact BBC world service or some other large media group to get the word out, not sitting around pussy footing wondering how to use a phone. If this man was in a high position he should have known who to phone.

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Originally Posted by KukriKhan

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The warning would have to come from someone with authority and with sufficient justification, say for example at which cut off point on the Richter scale is a tremor likely to cause a dangerous tsunami.

There have been false alarms in Thailand before and this time when the threat was real, those involved were too timid to act. Similarly there have been a few false alarms in my region for a second tsunami after this current quake, which caused unnecessary panic and hampered aid efforts.

It is nice to notify through all manner of mass media you can think of but I sincerely feel serious immediate action is a lot more likely to be taken by connecting the geophysicists at a warning center straight to the local authorities in likely affected areas.