Hi, If you haven't already you should listen to JJ Cale - I've always thought that is who Clapton wishes he could play like. (Clapton covered a bunch of his songs, too.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
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Hi, If you haven't already you should listen to JJ Cale - I've always thought that is who Clapton wishes he could play like. (Clapton covered a bunch of his songs, too.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
So you can sleep through Helter Skelter?Quote:
if your talking about the profound effect of being able to put me to sleep you have a point there...
Then you would be wrong. What is new in the Police? The Beatles covered a wider range of music than anyother band in the history of rock.Quote:
couldn´t have said it better.....acts like The Police , the pistols and the ramones are much more important to music today than the beatles in my opinion.
Norway is going into 3rd season of Idol now. We even won the first world Idol contest. (Not that Im proud we did. He was called a Hobbit btw)
It seems Idol is almost everywhere, and I for one think its crap. Although there is a bit comic relief, when you see the persons who absolutely can't sing.
And back to topic:
Boybands!!
This hasn't been mentioned at all. 4 to 5 cute boys singing terrible songs, but selling records since young girls with braces need something to drool over and get wet about.
And I recommend watching "For Fairlane" with Andre Dice Clay. It's one of the best "boys" movies out there.
The Rolling Stones average.... AVERAGE???
I'll admit that most of the stuff they did after "Tatoo You" isn't worth listening to but my goodness, their stuff from the 60s and 70s is fantastic!
clapton is a good guitarist, but not a good Artist, since he produced so very little work, nirvana are not quite that overrated, and while the beatles were good, they weren't the superband some people grant them.
police are definatly not overrated, and u2 didn't used to be.
thanks,
dessa
I'm going to agree with you here, outside of Paint it Black and Satisfaction I never thought they were really all that. They certainly have nothing on the Beatles. And yet they're still called "the greatest rock n' roll band of all time". Plus that whole Altamont deal was pretty messy...Quote:
As to overrated artists I think it has to be - apart from all the pop crap - the Stones. Don't really see their huge appeal outside of a couple of songs they were average imo.
Agreed, Clapton's best work was with Cream and Derek and the Dominoes.Quote:
Originally Posted by dessa14
Well
*Everyd dum**ss "artist" jumping up and down like monkeys at the zoo calling themselfs Pimp, Thug or "Gangsta". Ok, not cool... just makes you look like a degraded m**on.
*Just about every mainstream R&B crap...
*Bruce..
*U2
*Stones
*Beatles
*Every "Pop idol","Idol" or "Pop Stars" winner...
For some good music, i recomed; Third Eye Blind, SR71, Jimmy Eat World, Sum 41, Deftones, Limp Bizkit and Anti-Flag... :bow:
u2, keane, franz ferdinand, the darkness, poop idol winners, alot of stones and beatles stuff, although alot is also great, madonna, bareback camel racing and so on...
I would definitely put U2 at the top of the list. For a little entertainment, check out Maddox's latest rant featuring Bono et al:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=11worst
For me the most overrated superstar would have to be Madonna. She can sing and dance ok I guess, but her success is predominantly thanks to those who make her music, design her clothes and dance routines, and plan/develop her attention-getting antics. She doesn't write her music; she doesn't coreograph her dances. Others do. Hence, I think the fame she personally enjoys is misplaced. I hope the folks behind the scenes of the Madonna phenomenon get paid well. Then again, this is the case for many, many pop "artists" today. And that's what they are--pop constructs, not really musicians, and hardly what I would consider artists.
For a stiff, soul-less guitarist? ~:eek: The Yanni/John Tesh/Kenny G. of guitar. :dizzy2: Add David Hasselhoff for vocals, all performing sincere, heartfelt poems by Bruce Springsteen and you can start the sleepiest band thread. ~;) LOLQuote:
Quietus must die for insulting clapton...*draws knife**lunges**hits a car**dies*
Hmm...can't agree more...Quote:
Originally Posted by Krusader
Busted and Macfly need to be arrested for murder of music Damn I hate them, they are sooo loved by irratating little girls
Capo......must......die ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Capo of Arabia
Nirvana were great, do you just dislike grunge or just Nirvana on their own? Out of interest.
Yeah, Kurt (Yes, thats a K Cap ~;)) wasn't the best guitarist but so what? He played it well enough for me and made plenty of songs I love, he was more a lyricist than a musician.
As for Manson, some of his stuff if quite good though he isn't really "shocking" anymore so thats basically his career down the pan anyways. Oh, I also wear lots of black....am I a freak ~:confused:.
Worse....hmmmmm, McFly and Busted are definately there, ANYTHING from TV shows because they don't deserve it and fade after a few monthes (Where has that Michelle gone huh?). Britney just annoys me by the way she moves....I don't know why but it annoys me. Timberlake, pop him on my list, he is CRAP. 50 Cent, Eminem etc are all terrible, rap really isn't good and its turning England into a cesspool!
I don't like grunge.Quote:
Originally Posted by NagatsukaShumi
I don't see the appeal in music that advocates murder, prostitution, and the degradation of the English language - this heresy known as "rap."
:no:
Overrated? Beethoven's piano sonatas can not be overrated. Dessa14, open your mouth. That's it. Raise your left foot to your face... there you go... Now carefully insert it into your mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by dessa14
Oh, and I won't mention my own candidate for reasons of public health. Last time I brought up a stupendously bad singer, it caused several nervous break-downs in the .org ranks. Can't have that, can we? ~:cool:
adrian, beethoven is overated for sure, when people think classical they automatically think either him or mozart, they act like he was the only musical artist of the period with any talent...
yes he was great, but not deserving of that.
thanks,
dessa
Guiseppi Verdi was the greatest Clasical Composer, either him or Richard Wagner.
So ha
capo there is no way, that anything other then an austrian or german would be the greatest classical composer.
thanks,
dessa
J.S. Bach is THE man .... ~:cool:
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Originally Posted by Louis IV the Fat
*spits out cream soda all over his screen*
sorry dude, The White Stripes are the best band in the world right now.
as for the topic of most over-rated:
all lipsyncers who get endless play on MTV and MuchMusic, namely:
1. Ashlee Simpson
2. Britney Spears
3. Lindsay Lohan
...and everyone else who can't sing yet puts out records anyways and lipsyncs. lipsyncing after having received money from the public should be illegal . Ashlee Simpson should already be in jail for the next 10 years.
To me, comparing Bach, Beethoven and Mozart et. al. is like comparing Elvis to the Beatles to Led Zeppelin, etc. It's not very practical because the styles and beauty are so different.
JS Bach was the MAN when it comes to intricate counterpoint and interwoven melody and harmony. The technical, almost scientific perfection of his compositions never ceases to amaze me, and they are so beautiful on top of that. Few composers can bring me to tears, but JS Bach can.
Amadeus was so full of spirit, his music prances and preens like no other. He wrote so much in such a short life and it was all so full of life. I was never able to capture his spirit when I played because I'm the dour and passionate type; light and gay tunes just weren't my thing. But man, Mozart was quite a pop phenomenon.
Ludwig--this guy was the heavy metal dude of the classical period. Can't you just hear the storm on his brow? From the haunting limbo of the Moonlight, to the pounding fury of the Pathetique, his passion crawled from the depths of darkness to soar into the light of heaven. How can one not be moved by the melody of the Waldstein's second movement? And that he wrote some of his greatest works while basically deaf--simply amazing.
My personal favorite: Frederick Chopin. He could make the piano--a percussive instrument--sing. He had a bit of all three of the previously mentioned in his style, but with additional characteristics that were all his own. The technically demanding and lovely etudes; the flowing waltzes that swept gentlemen and ladies off their feet; the sleepy nocturnes that put me to sleep at night; magnificent.
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Most overrated? Hmm. I don't think any of the classical artists are overrated really. This is really going to annoy a certain patron I think, but if I had to pick an overrated composer it would be Handel. While his work is respectable, compared to Bach, who is from the same (Baroque) period, he seems repetitive, flat, and lacking in inspiration to me. The Messiah has always sounded pretentious and almost circus-like to me. But that's just me ... .
That explains it then, atleast you aren't like those kids who hate Nirvana because its "cool" ~:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Capo of Arabia
We're forgetting josef Haydn - this guy should be at the top, he INVENTED the sonata form (which Elgar manipulated into his Cello Concerto in E minor - my fave piece personally) he wrote tons and tons of great music, witty (farewell symphony - tht was to make a point to his patron) and new surprise symphony (tht had me the first time round too). Also he makes up quite a bit of the classical repertoir esp for violins and stringed groups.
However, IMO when picking bwest composer you'll be tempted into making a bias towards a composer who has written most for your instrument as you are most familiar with his music.
Chopin is my favorite among classical music as well. The Nocturnes is a beauty. His stuff comes out a lot more naturally than any I've heard! ~:) :bow:
Right now I'm listening to Emanuel Ax plays Chopin. Sounds great but it sounds more like a compilation. Any suggestions on Chopin cds is much appreciated! ~D
'Think' is the operative word here. I was under the impression that you shared people's 'thoughts'.Quote:
Originally Posted by dessa14
Point taken. Well, here we go then.
*Opens mouth, etcetera...*
Anything by Martha Argerich, she's the queen imo. Casadesus, Rubinstein, Horowitz all very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quietus
Best Composer: Mozart.
No arguments.
NONE.
You left out blind faith , John Mayall and the Blues breakers and the Yardbirds there m8 ~;) He did nice worl with all these bands. Im particualrly fond of Blind Faith. Did some nice stuff on While my Guitar Gently weeps also.Quote:
greed, Clapton's best work was with Cream and Derek and the Dominoes.