Re: Help Wanted: Sounds and voices
They aren't. Gaelic is placed in the Q or 'Goidilic' family. Gallic is in the 'Continental' family. Saying a language is 'Celtic' is pretty broad; Celts covered most of Europe, and developed multiple, distinct lingual families. Should also point out, even IF Gaelic languages descended directly from Gallic, there's a disparity of time; modern Q-Celtic languages are extremely different than they were even only a few centuries ago, try compounding two millenia of changes and shifts onto it. Gallic and Gaelic being related is a misconception brought on by people who think since the names sound similar, they must be the same. They do share some words and a few grammatical rules, but they aren't remotely similar aside from those, and far too different to say that Gaelic and Gallic are the same. There are words in Welsh that are also in Irish, and any speaker of either can tell you the languages are distantly related at best.
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I speak Norwegian, with a northern Norwegian dialect (Finnmark).
I also speak Finnish, but with a heavy Norwegian-Swedish accent.
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We could really use an Ossetian speaker.
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Originally Posted by Ranika
They aren't. Gaelic is placed in the Q or 'Goidilic' family. Gallic is in the 'Continental' family. Saying a language is 'Celtic' is pretty broad; Celts covered most of Europe, and developed multiple, distinct lingual families. Should also point out, even IF Gaelic languages descended directly from Gallic, there's a disparity of time; modern Q-Celtic languages are extremely different than they were even only a few centuries ago, try compounding two millenia of changes and shifts onto it. Gallic and Gaelic being related is a misconception brought on by people who think since the names sound similar, they must be the same. They do share some words and a few grammatical rules, but they aren't remotely similar aside from those, and far too different to say that Gaelic and Gallic are the same. There are words in Welsh that are also in Irish, and any speaker of either can tell you the languages are distantly related at best.
Im fluent in welsh its my 1st language,
I dont understan the irish at all when the speak gaelic,
And im shure any irish person fluent in galic would say the same about welsh,
The languages are EXTREAMLY difrent,
ShambleS
:bow:
Ps
In the welsh to hebrew post,
I only understood 1 word,
and that was Gwirion, Which actualy means stupid,
Are you shure thats welsh?
Or is it An old version of welsh that no one has heard in years
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I understood more than one word of the Hebrew, but I still didn't understand most of it. I chalked it up to a combination of nonstandard transliteration and my imperfect knowledge of the language.
-Simetrical
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Modern Welsh and Bretonic (the only P-Celtic languages still in use) are only influenced by Semitic languages, but not in the same lingual family by any means. Of course, they were likely much closer in bygone periods to the languages in question, as British proto-Welsh and related languages have been affected as well by the Latin, Saxon, Norman, English, and Gaelic languages, so we can't expect modern Welsh to really be that similar to earlier languages, though grammar and such may hold some ties to the older influences.
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To all of you, who volunteered to do sounds and voices for the germanics:
Please contact me directly at s.fenrich@web.de
You need naturally some recording instruments.
Thanks in advance.
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Hey all!
I read the post on how a person speaking a latin language was needed for Gallic- my family is from the Alps of north Italy and speaks Lombard, which basically is vulgar latin dialect very influenced by Gallic and very very slightly influenced by the Lombards. Alot of words have Gallic origin, I'm no expert but from what I've seen perhaps there are more then in all the other gallo-italic languages. French seems to be too influenced by Germanic languages to me.
Other then that, I've read that Gallic languages are thought to be Brythonic so, although Welsh and Breton have changed much, they would probably be a bit closer then Gaelic or Latin languages. But, the Gallic fragments I've seen were very very similar to Latin languages both grammatically and by vocabulary.
So, if help is needed let me know.
Thanks!
Justin
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Gallic is far closer to Latin; the Brythonic theory is a rather old, and outdated one. The P-Celtic and Q-Celtic languages are all dissimilar from it, and it is best to have a Latin or Greek speaker do Gallic.
However, any speaker ready to record, is good. We do need speakers. Perhaps I can help coach the sound. We do need a good voice actor for the Gauls and Britons.
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I would be glad to help with the voices if I can. I've learned
I'm fluent in Spanish and English (I learned Spanish about a year before English),
I took Italian for 4 years in school from 5th to 8th grade and got A+s every year, I've been an Honors student in German for 2 years in High School and honestly speak better German than Italian since I learned from an infinitely better teacher that actually taught us more than the present tense. I took a couple of weeks of Koine Greek until the priest that was teaching the subject couldn't teach us because he was too busy with his duties. I still remember the alphabet and pronunciation and some parts of the declension I learned.
I've been exposed to Latin due to the fact that many friends study it and I know the rules of pronunciation, but not really anything else besides that.
I would be worthless translating ancient or classical languages, but I can be a voice actor. Give me the accent marks, and the rules of the alphabet (ie, the Spanish J sounds like the English H and the German J sounds like the English Y) and I'll correctly pronounce anything you give me.
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I am POrtuguese, i speek spanish too, if you want some help with spain amnd lusitania, just say something. I speek english fluently too.
hugofreboredo@netcabo.pt
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Hey i actually thought that the words on gallic (gaul) were pretty damn difficult to pronounce (at least to an hispanic) while actually the latin is very easy to me.
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Here is the quick question, with background info following if you care to read on.
(1) Does EB have a composer on board for new music?
(2) If So, will the composer categorize the new music?
Not to compare, but I have heard people gripe about RTR's music. I didn't find it all that bad. My only complaint is that there was not enough new music, so many of the same songs are looped excessively. I also noticed that song placement in relation to category was essentially ignored.
Vanilla ran four general song categories:
(1) Campaign background
(2) Deployment
(3) March to objective
(4) On cue at a prescribed unit distance, beginning of combat.
While I enjoyed the change of music in RTR, I enjoyed the song categories established by CA far more. It truly added an environmental submersion element. I found it unfortunate that RTR did not seperate their songs into these categories.
I would offer my services, but I have no skill or talent. :embarassed:
Div
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Khelvan, are you still searching for a composer to recruit? I told about EB to a good friend of mine, an awesome composer, and he said is gonna give a shot creating some good tracks. Right now he is collecting samples. I already posted this on the TWC forums, so answer wherever you want. I know you (and the rest of the team, of course) are working hard for the beta but I'd really appreciate a swift answer. Thanks.