LOL... Good to see you got on the right buses there as well... ~DQuote:
Originally Posted by AdrianII
Oui Oui?
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LOL... Good to see you got on the right buses there as well... ~DQuote:
Originally Posted by AdrianII
Oui Oui?
Well, I for one say kudos to Bush. I think this is possibly the first thing he has done that I approve of. Org patrons who have been around for a while know that I am pro-Israel, and I think this is a good thing for Israel. People who live in a society with food, water, infrastructure and security are much less likely to be angry enough to strap bombs to themselves and go on murdering rampages.
I realize $50 million won't do all of that, but it's a good start.
Nothing to do with the subject, but for what newpaper do you work adrian?Quote:
Originally Posted by AdrianII
Thanks F-f-frag, b-b-but I'll remain anonymomalous! (Porky Pig)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fragony
I am serious, just interested. And I am not that bad you cursed hippie ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AdrianII
Wow there are some ungrateful people in here. If I supported a group of downtrodden people and Bush sent them 50 million I would at least restrain myself. But no, were still bad, hes still evil, blah blah blah.. You wonder why we arent as giving to people, its because they take our money with no problems but then spin things to where we are still the bad guys.
Israel gets aid for a number of reasons. For starters they are a strategic partner , you know, an ally. On the other hand the palestinians have no problem burning the american flag and dancing in the streets after our buildings are blown up. Also Israel was sort of ganged up on 3 different times and only managed to stay in existence because of the piss poor arab armies. We help them and they help us, thats a much different circumstance than what we have with the palestinians.
I would rather say that america is Israel's strategic cannonfodder. What ally, they didn't hesitate to bomb your ships or bulldozer your citizens when they felt it served their cause. Nice friends, I bet they are having a good laugh over that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJager
If my mate beat the shit out of you and kicked you out of your house while I watched - would you be grateful If I chucked you a couple of bucks after to get yourself a beer?Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJager
Yes, if PJ had been sending his children on a weekly basis into your living room with bombs strapped to their waists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Idaho
As I said before, it's not so much that you're the bad guys, but you've a long long way to go before you're heroes.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJager
Gee, you think it might have something to do with 90% of the bullets and bomb frangments they're pulling out of their kids for the last thirty having "Made in the USA" stamped on them? And maybe it has something to do with the people who shoot them and torture them and bulldoze their houses and steal their land and water getting billions and billions and billions from the USA?Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJager
Do you really think the Palestinians owe the US any love?
Yeah the Palestinians first started suicide bombing in the late 19th century. hey would travel to London, New York and Warsaw searching out Jews to kill. In retaliation the Jews decided to seek justice by setting up a new country and booting the Palestinians out :dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Goofball
You should read up a bit. Arab attacks on Jews began pretty much as soon as Jews started emigrating back to the area. It's nothing new. Arafat with his family history of Naziism was just carrying on the tradition.Quote:
Originally Posted by Idaho
As opposed to the Jews who just blew up hotels full of Brits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goofball
Back on topic, it's a good sign. People are marginally less likely to try and kill you if you paid for the explosive.
The Arabs knew that the Zionist's intent, as stated by the Zionist leadership, was to take over all the land for themselves. They're intention living in peace side by side was to last only until they had an army powerful enough to take over all the land.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goofball
Sins of the father? What about the (future) Israeli Prime Ministers who were killing Allied soldiers during WWII? Shall we blame thir children as well? What about their grandchildren? Where does hereditary sin end?Quote:
Originally Posted by Goofball
Really? Because the Israelis have already administered several ass-kickings to the combined "might" of all of the surrounding Arab countries on a number of occasions. If you are correct and it is the aim of the Jews to take over "all the land," then why isn't the Star of David flying proudly over the cities of Cairo, Damascus and Amman? In fact, why haven't they simply wiped the Palestinians off of the map? They certainly have the military ability to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beirut
The UN would get invloved and stop them.
Or a superpower would have stopped them.
I was watching a program on the history channel about the six day war. Command decisions into was called.
Now this is what I want to see.
From CBC news:
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/natio...tin050527.html
"Now, these initiatives are just a down payment," Martin said. "Canada and the international community must clearly do much more at this crucial moment in the Middle East."
The Canadian package, although modest in terms of Palestinian needs, is bigger on a per-capita basis than the $50-million (U.S.) the Palestinian president was offered in Washington on Thursday.
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Originally Posted by Martinus
The UN couldn't stop a boy scout from carving a wooden car.
Warning, the following link is certainly a biased site:
http://www.palestine-pmc.com/details.asp?cat=1&id=878
But it shows what my country has done to help the palestinians... which dwarfs the canadian and american aid combined. Though I think its better if the US sent aid, becuase it gives the palestinians a positive image of the US and probably improves the peace process.
EDIT: Oh and btw, its best to oversee where that money goes, just as we did with the construction project in Gaza, just as Beirut said, its best to send a third party workforce like doctors and engineers.
"The UN couldn't stop a boy scout from carving a wooden car."
...Those were the days.
~:cheers:
I mean in the past when the USA and the USSR needed the UN to keep the peace and the whole thing seemed to work.
It doesn't work now because it gets in America's way.
But if anything happened to America they run crying to the UN.
"Help us Kofi, its Vietnam all over again."
Though I think its better if the US sent aid,
Faisal the US does send aid , but there is a law that bans direct aid to the PA ,this law has been waived in this case as it was previously once in 2003 .
USaid to NGOs in Palestine in '97 amounted to $232,290 per day which is a large amount of cash , though of course it is a lot smaller amount than the $15,139,178 per day that Isreal recieved .
I do know the US sends aid, but the palestinian people hardly know about it, I meant they should make larger aid packages receive more publicity, this does alot of good in the longer run.
Why should my country give more aid to a bunch of {people I don't like} that hate my country and are bent on the destruction of my country as well as our ally? Why don't your country and all those other muslim brothers of the Palestinians give up some of your land? Isreal only makes up less than 1% of the land in the middle east. Selfish perhaps?Quote:
Originally Posted by faisal
It might make them like you, then you have another ally.Quote:
Why should my country give more aid to a bunch of {people I don't like} that hate my country and are bent on the destruction of my country as well as our ally?
It could help to stop the fighting in the region.
It is probably the same reason as why the USA will not give up some land to form some kind of navtive american country. And Spain with the Basques, France with the Bretons, England with Devonshire people, etc.Quote:
Why don't your country and all those other muslim brothers of the Palestinians give up some of your land? Isreal only makes up less than 1% of the land in the middle east. Selfish perhaps?
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Originally Posted by Martinus
"Make them like you"? That is soooo European!!!! lol
The US gives way too much as it is. And that goes for the Isrealis as well.
Maybe - maybe notQuote:
Originally Posted by Martinus
LOL - another one from outside the United States showing their ignorance of the Reservation systems for each tribe here in the United States.Quote:
It is probably the same reason as why the USA will not give up some land to form some kind of navtive american country. And Spain with the Basques, France with the Bretons, England with Devonshire people, etc.
50,000,000 is peanuts for any nation. You might as well given nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave
Sounds good to me, i wouldn't offer a cup of piss for them to sip on during a hot day....Quote:
Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
I think you mean Cornwall actually. It's just Devon as well-there's no shire on the end.Quote:
England with Devonshire people