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Well, well, I have all the savegames from the start. :wink:
No mods, MTW VI, Hard, Starting in High.
Strategy? Hmm. Opportunistic Turtle?
I allied with most powers, took whatever was rebel, attacked moslims and excommed Italy when it was weak and war could end because of disconnection.
The rest is history and written in this thread. Want the save? :wink:
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Originally Posted by Budwise
No mods and you had an interesting game. Wow, I might just try that.
I'm going to be playing Battlefield Vietnam for a while and since my GF is native Vietnamese I have to watch my back on this one. Who knows, she might have a sence of humor afterall. Medieval Total War is my true love though.
The only thing you can do it make more soldiers to stop any rebellions when you get excommunicated (which you will when you invade the pope).
Do as much damage as possible, go for the rich and troop making provinces then go for the pope. When the pope is dead all the excommunications will be invalid and you will be accepted back in and you people will love you again.
YAY
Okay, since it was mentioned I make the savegame available for download.
It is Hard, started in High, MTW+VI, Hungarians. Present day is 1349.
The Hungarians 1349.zip
Link is available for 7 days and I believe can be downloaded ten times. If anyone needs it afterwards, drop a pm. It is a zip of the save game,size: 907kb.
Here's a novel idea. Retreat and sell off your armies. If you have become overstretched accept defeat for a few decades and come out swinging when you're back in the black.
Why sell off your armies if you're overstretched that doesn't even make any sense. Why reduce the amount of armies if oyu have an extensive border? Why run? Why not just fight your way to the Pyrrinees or some other choke point?
Because not only is he over stretched he's broke. So he could retreat, destroying everything as he goes and sell off his garrisons. Once he gets to the point that he's settled his depts and is earning again he can improve the provinces he has left and then he'll be able to expand again.
Well, if you built that many troops for the invasion, you would be in debt before you started.
Besides, why not reduce your troop numbers via attrition. Atleast get them to kill something, you're not getting anything in return on your investment if you buy it and disband and yield all the territory you got with it. You wasted several years building a massive army just to disband it and give everyone else mercs to kick your butt with? I think not!
Instituting a scorched earth policy would be viable EXCEPT you want most of the developments INTACT so when you eventually take over the map or have to fight the super powered French, you can pay for an army to do it. Why sell off a Fortress that took 16 years to build when you can use it? You need to have the provences with 200+ years of development because you're fighting in Western Europe, you're not going to able to reinforce via the sea as effectively as N. Africa, Iberia, or Eurasia(as the whole east has huge provences and choke points). You're going to want the forward build areas.
Make peace with the French, so you don't need armys on that border. Next take care of the popes toops in the north. Then you can focus on one front line so you can reduce the nuber of troops you have to keep up.
Since I posted the savegame I did not play with that campaign. I fear that I need all my skills to pull that off so I will continue when I am properly rested and ready for long battles. I think I will not disband my armies, if I must give up land I will go on a destruction derby through Europe with a few stacks and try to defend the homelands with the rest.
Meanwhile, anybody downloaded the save? Does anybody need earlier saves as I have all of them since the start of the game?
Well, can you send me a save when the Pope startes killing everyone to create his Holy Roman Empire?
Fishy1231@msn.com
Well, could you be a little more specific? When the Pope started acquiring possessions outside the Italian penninsula? Or when he first attacked christian nations? Or when he started taking over the extinct Spanish possessions? Or maybe when he attacked me?
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Originally Posted by antisocialmunky
I'm guessing when the Pope took over Spain, but I haven't played that campaign so I wouldn't know when the Pope was definitely on the road to empire.
If you have the bandwith I can send you the whole package in one zip to download from a server... If not I will just send the Spanish one.
As long as the saves are less than 2 megs, sure. If not, send me the most recent ones.
I don't want to spam up this thread anymore with a one on one conversation.
This has happened to me a number of times. I even engineered it once. To stop him once he starts is hard, especially if your a big country with lots of catholic loving citizens.
1. If your in the red stagegically reduce your armies through war, hopefully against the Pope. The insueing ransoms will help inflate your pocketbook as well as the diminishing amount of army maintenance. Oh remember to burn and pillage. Eradicate anything of value on the province, especially moneymakers. Don't plan on keeping what you gain. Be nice and give him back his newfound headache when he comes to retrieve it.
2. Try to shore up your defenses, which will be hard considering if he has a large fleet, he can land anywhere he wants. Use your new found wealth to produce lots of ships especially at your ship building ports. Then decimate his navy. This will chop his money out from underneath him to a certain extent.
Hopefully, if you keep these 2 things in mind you'll destroy his financial means. With the Pope more than anyone else, when you fight a war your not fighting his army you are fighting his treasury.
I hope it helps. It did you me, but when it happened to me I held from Aragon south, all of North Africa, north to Constantinople and the other one to the east more, Rum? Obviously all were at natural pinchpoints. I made sure to ravage his fleets, and then made deep burn and pillage forays into his territory. It was frustrating and lots of fun all at the same time.
damn thats a pretty nice campaign, just keep the balkans and make farms and other money making building, defending is easy, attacking is gonna be the harder part for you ;)