Hints 4 destroying Ptolemaic Empire/Egypt

Most successful? What about Asia? They've been home to the largest empire, the longest running dynasty(I think), invention of gunpowder, etc... But this is really a silly arguement, continents are just continents, its the nations that matter. And many of Europes nations have been influenced/come from other continents, so the whole thing is moot.


But to get back on subject, scorillo how is the campaign going? You never said wether you were able to defeat the Egyptians are not. Or are your Roman scientists busy developing nuclear weapons to counter the Yellow Menance?

Assassins and spies with the plague should be applied liberally, along with razing every town and hiring all mercenaries before he can get them. It costs him much more to bribe your mercenaries than it costs you to hire them.

mfberg

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Most successful? What about Asia? They've been home to the largest empire, the longest running dynasty(I think), invention of gunpowder, etc...

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The largest empire ever seen is the British empire, no asian empire touched and influenced every continent like europe did, the Americas dominated by English, Spanish and Portugeuse (sp?) speaking, Africa, French, English etc.

In this modern world the heart is in Europe, which sprouted outwards to change the world, it cant be denied. It doesnt mean European civilisation is of more value at all, its just Europe has contributed most to the world we see today.

The Mongol empire is the largest continueos land empire but not larger overall than the British.

the Greeks is the oldest known civilisation in the world...and the most advanced..thousands of years ago...so any commentary is useless

Katank had it right, go straight for Memphis. Hold that and most of your Egyptian unrest problems in other formerly Egyptian cities disappear. You won't need the Governors.

Also, you can implement the "forced migration" mod. Set peasant recruiting times to 0. When you take a city, enslave it (eases the unrest by reducing population immediately), and then make one useful unit and fill the rest of the queue with peasants. Next turn you get one useful unit and a half stack of peasants who are no longer Egyptian malcontents, they are now proud Roman peasants, who can be shipped off immediately to build up the populations of "right minded" cities closer to your Capital, or left at home to form an immediate vigilante police force.

You probably have cities like Segestia, Bylazora, Salona, Iuvavum...places that are starving for right minded peasants to do the hard work that the Barbarian peasants formerly did. Turn those formerly Large cities into Huge cities overnight with an Egypto/Roman transfusion!

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Originally Posted by _Aetius_

Just a couple of things, Constantine did abit more than just covert to christianity, he gave the empire a binding force that would unite it for over a 1000 years etc.

Also the empire had been split way before Theodosius' time, he was simply the last emperor to rule over a united empire.



Maybe not but Europe is certainly the greatest continent, no other continent has influenced the rest of the world as much as Europe, whereas it isnt the oldest its certainly the most successful.

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it definitly didnt. it only influenced the new world alot. from about 500 bc. not before that no way. africa and asia have influenced the world for milleniums. and europe is loosing its power. asia is rising again while the socalled west is beginning its free fall. where africa and asia were way less an hazard for the enviroment Europe actually destroyed the earth.

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Originally Posted by _Aetius_

The largest empire ever seen is the British empire, no asian empire touched and influenced every continent like europe did, the Americas dominated by English, Spanish and Portugeuse (sp?) speaking, Africa, French, English etc.

In this modern world the heart is in Europe, which sprouted outwards to change the world, it cant be denied. It doesnt mean European civilisation is of more value at all, its just Europe has contributed most to the world we see today.

The Mongol empire is the largest continueos land empire but not larger overall than the British.

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in this modern world the heart lies in china and india. why do you think europe is using all its power to block them. they say free trade around the world. but chinese t-shirts are not allowed. the greatest port in the world rotterdam has been passed by 2 harbours while it had the greatest turnover ever. as what europe has achieved has been made possible by the technoligy the saw/stole in other nations. while whe where running around in hides and skins in china they were drinking tea and had paper money. without there discovery of gunpowder we would never conquered africa and america.

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Originally Posted by Coldfish

the Greeks is the oldest known civilisation in the world...and the most advanced..thousands of years ago...so any commentary is useless

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did yuo lost your mind. read the history books. would you call the egyptians non civilised. they builded the piramids. or the persians. not the new but the old ones. or the babylonians and the other peoples from between the 2 great rivers from where CIVILISATION SPROUTED. those greeks where so arrogant they claimed the spot in history as the oldest known civilistion.

1. egypt was older and more advanced at the time greece was populated
2.china was more advanced till 500
3. the people from the eufraat and tigris are reckoned to be the first civilise people in europe maybe the world.

so the greeks are not the oldest most advanced and difinitly not the first civilisation in the world.

Everyone who wants to talk about on early civilizations needs to read "Guns, Germs and Steel" by Jared Diamond. Anyone interested in the current European ascendancy in contemporary history needs to read "The Wealth and Poverty of Nations" by David Landis. That should give us all the same context. Then we can all have a nice book club conversation.

All of this European Jingoism is, to say the least, just obnoxious.

As for the Asian jingoists I say the same.

I love how people judge superiority by regression. Each Civilisation is unique on its own count except on one count, they all fall.

The Chinese, Persian, Mongols, Arabs, Ottomans, Egyptians, Romans, Greeks, British, French, German, Mayans, Aztecs, Incas and Americans did a lot for the world as a whole but let's face it, comparing each one relative superiority is redundant. It takes the Civilisation in question out of context. For example, imagine if comparing the Mongol Empire to the Greek, impossible unless you have a definitive bias.

And on the modern world, face it guys, its America.

They have the best military (47% of world military spending), the largest economy ($10 trillion) and a global political presence.

China will not be able to compete with America on equal terms at least for the next 2 decades. As for India, given indian politicians nothing might ever happen.

Despite the grandeur of the European Union, Europe does not have anywhere near the power America does. Given, their combined economies have just started to equal America's but all the major countries (save the UK) are facing sharp economic downturn.

P.S I apologise for the many great civilisation I left out in my post and my Asia to Europe pattern (it was just simpler).

also let's face that america has the highest debt (sp?) 1000 billion. their economy is crumbling and their might is too. they're still the most powerful but not for long. europe can't compeat with america on political basis or military but it has 50% of the world market. america only has 20%

also the UK has a very old industry, their coming back but he, america is going down worse than any other of the western countries. face it, the GIANT IS DEAD, it's body just doesnt realise it. China is going to be the new power, maybe not tomorow but it wont take long. Europe fell after the 1st worldwar, america fell on 11 september. china fell 1000 years ago and is coming back. russia fell in the 80's though it was over in 1989. In another 400 years welcome africa boys.

To get this thread back on track, this link might help when taking on Egypt.

Let history stays in books and movies...

The greatest empire is humankind itself... Self destruct...

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Originally Posted by scorillo

i hope will work...i`m sick of bribing egyptians to not attack my abroad strategic armies =) cheers ~:cheers:

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For sure,

I don't know why it is, but Egyptians are among the toughest in the system, especially desert axemen, and the hardest to bribe.

Desert axemen are not SUPPOSED to be that strong. It's just not realistic. Just mod them, man.

They are not the hardest to bribe. They will corrupt themselves as easily as any other man when they see gold. You just need a lot of money.

On the military side, if you are confident of beating full-stacks, then by all means ignore their armies and besiege their cities. Relief full-stacks will come to their aid, and the garrison will sally out to assist. Just ensure that you rout that army COMPLETELY and the city is yours, and there, they're that much weaker. As Magnum says it well: It's the cities that count, not the battles.