Exactly, Italian incompetence is not the fault of the Marines.
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Exactly, Italian incompetence is not the fault of the Marines.
I would have thought that it was obvious that they would fly from my bit to Gleneagles but some folk put trees on the road expecting them to go by road ~D
Redleg, on anarchy, I like your definition:
But I think Idaho is talking about meaning 1c; you're talking about 1b. In a Utopian society, complete freedom won't lead to political disorder (or the kind of things we make laws about).Quote:
1 a : absence of government b : a state of lawlessness or political disorder due to the absence of governmental authority c : a utopian society of individuals who enjoy complete freedom without government
2 a : absence or denial of any authority or established order b : absence of order
BTW, I believe part of Somalia - IIRC the north, Somaliland? - has a decent government. However, no international body will recognise it as it, as it is a kind of breakaway from the warlordism in the South.
Oh I think I know which one he was talking about - but he did attempt to correct another individual who also used the word correctly - within the definition of the word. Just like I said - he made it to easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Appleton
1-wonton destruction is not arachy, bunch of pricks stealing our fire and giving us a bad name. When anarchists destroy stuff it is focused on those that repress i.e. cops that abuse their power during protests.Quote:
Do the majority of these people even know what they're protesting? The knuckleheads that are getting all the media coverage seem to be more interested in breaking stuff or assaulting people than actually accomplishing anything meaningful.
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I think that they are just anarchists, protesting against government. I can't say anarchy is very appealling -- look at Somalia
2-the media covers these people because they are a bunch of sensationalists, who don't know jack take this for example
Groups including the Black Block movement-Black Bloc is not a movement, its a tactic, masked protestors who commit direct action and protect protestors from brutality (read un-arresting).
and this is my favorite http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=731222005
Those guys are a group (notice a group not a tactic) known as CIRCA (Clandestine Insurgent Rebel Clown Army). They don't riot they act stupid, its messing with heads. They are blocking traffic ect, getting between protestors and cops when things heat up, but how can you attack a clown.
3-Anarchy is a political theory about having complete freedom. So althought Malcolm is gramatically correct the meaning in wrong. Anarchists believe in no government or authority. And that people are quite able to handle themselves without control from above. No class, ect.
www.crimethinc.comQuote:
That said, I don't know much about anarchist and anti globlistation protestors in genera, or even their political views.
www.infoshop.org
nice people, they'll help you out.
There I've had my say.
Demonstrations is so... Neanderthal... We have internet, modern media, ability to communicate and still people have to behave like 10,000 years ago.......
Long lost conjecttures of ancient kingdoms in Europe, all right, the romans are the spawn of all evil and chaos.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJager
It seems strange that the gun-tootin', trigger happy types on this thread who are usually so down on state power and claim to stand up for the rights of people over the government seem so happy to align themselves with the oppressive forces of the state.
Scratch a conservative and you'll find a fascist.
Well, I like seeing Police cracking heads as much as the next guy if it is justified. If the Protesters don't start anything violent, than nothing violent will happen to them. I don't think Protesters would be too keen on recieiving a Highlander Charge of Angry Scottish Police Officers so chances are like just about every other G8 Conference that after the initial dust settles nothing will be accomplished by the Protesters... and nothing violent will happen. The protestors have come out in larger numbers because the UK isn't a very uncivilized place, I remember a couple years ago that the Summit was in Honduras and less than 500 Protestors went... why? Because the Honduran Government has Paramilitary forces who would love to crack Protestor heads for no apparent reason. I think the country and it's rather violent past scared off a lot of people.
You should have seen the pictures on the news last night...
Hundreds of riot police charging into the protesters where they breached the security fence. More police taken by a chinook to the action. My local paper (the Courier) has the headline "Battle of Gleneagles", and the Daily Mail has "The Siege of Gleneagles"...
Some interesting things in the skies this morning, though. A large plane with a few fighter escorts, inumberable military helicopters, including RN air ambulances, and a good many jets overhead.
Not always. Sometimes it is the police who start it, or often a mixture of both.Quote:
If the Protesters don't start anything violent, than nothing violent will happen to them.
i'm certian the anarchists have flaming pigs.... ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Xiahou
Not very nice way to talk about their girlfriends... ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by t1master