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Originally Posted by UglyandHasty
Seems you just did that ~D
CBR
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Originally Posted by UglyandHasty
Seems you just did that ~D
CBR
Well, I bet Canada is beginning to regret it's decision to side with France on the Iraq issue now. Denmark, a true friend, can expect our support and loyalty for sending their 50 soldiers to Baghdad and being a part of the 'coalition of the willing'. Canada, by working to thwart our efforts, has shown itself to be a member of the 'coalition of the royally screwed' mabye even the Axis of Pretty Darned Bad. We're gonna head North lookin for evildoers, and when we find 'em, we're gonna smoke 'em out, we're gonna get 'em on the run, and we're gonna 'get em.... don't mess with Texas!!! :charge:
(This was done for fun, y'all. Not a hint of truth in American policy or the feelings of the author is implied). ~:cheers:
Now! Be nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by UglyandHasty
Let the Danes have their death threat before you rush in to invade with your mounties!!
I would like to think Canada's history of generosity and sacrifice to the people of that region of Europe would convince them that we are not the sort of people to make specious and unrightful claims.
oH we'll be nice... We'll just send Celine Dion as vanguard ~:cheers:Quote:
Originally Posted by ian_of_smeg16
I don't understand. Are you trying to be funny? Everyone knows that war was faought over war, well, everyone except the republicans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
"There was no connection between 9/11 and Saddam Hussein" - George W Bush
Not to add there were no WMD's in Iraq. Why would we want to assist your government while they personally get rich off of the oil and war contracts?
PS. I think we should officially start a 'coalition of the unwilling' just to annoy the US.
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Originally Posted by UglyandHasty
OMG. That must be some convention that outlaws dirty tricks like that??
But maybe thats why Canadian and Danish soldiers are, what appears to be, stockpiling hard liquor on the island, as thats the only antidote I know of ~:cheers:
CBR
Actually, yes, I was trying to be funny, and what you said made no sense. The war was fought over war???? What does that mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Byzantine Prince
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Originally Posted by UglyandHasty
Oh Dear God NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo.......
Seriously, you wouldn't be that cruel?
Hey! I like Celine Dion. (I wonder if I should admit that I sing celine Dion songs in the shower...)
Anyway, the bloody island is bloody well ours and we're bloody well willing to send a dozen bloody drunk Newfies up there to give Denmark an "I told you so!"
Denmark ain't got no one to got toe to toe with a couple of liquored up St-John's longshoremen. :knight:
Hmmm... drunken Newfies versus drunken Danes... battling it out in a street brawl and the winner gets a frozen hunk of rock & ice in the far reaches of the North Atlantic that's only accessible in particularly warm winters.... Can you say 'new reality series....' ~:cheers:
wow you said bloody alot, and i thought you canadians werent british, hey this could be your version of the falklands.....hehe with the danes as the argentines of course....
lol, Artic Survivor......can the contestants win this glamerous, glorified iceberg?Quote:
.... Can you say 'new reality series....'
Your secret has been revealed, you sing Celine Dion's music and wear womans clothes.Quote:
(I wonder if I should admit that I sing celine Dion songs in the shower...)
So what kind of wood is your lumberjackin ass taking care
Must get lonely and boring out in the middle of a forest
The drinking contest sound like a good and civilized idea to solve that "problem"
~:cheers:
ps. you dont stand a chance...
Would this very tiny piece of rock have any significance because of fishing or airspace conventions?
I think Celine Dion should be sent to permanently inhabit the island. No civilized nation would attack a civilian minding her own business on a lonely rock... That would of course be followed by a vote for "self determinination" of the rock's inhabitants. Problem resolved.
I say the Danes should dig in and let the Canucks try and take it! :laugh4:
oh - really? Who was it that stored brandy on the island? the danes - it's called mobilization, preparing for the drinking contest! You challenge us on our strongest ground - drinking. We we weren't bloody VIKINGS for nothing, fighting... we cant anymore, but we can drink with tenfold energy and zeal!Quote:
Originally Posted by UglyandHasty
Let the challenge begin ~:cheers:
SKÅL!
FISHING RIGHTS for starters for a 100km or halfway between two nations.
And any mineral and oil rights in the surrounding water.
As for Canadian military history they were very impressive in WWII.
Yes, that is what I was thinking with regards to fishing rights, although I thought the boundary was much narrower. Is much fishing done around the island during the thaw or is that stretch of water largely "unusable" to the fishing industry?Quote:
Originally Posted by Papewaio
Don't think the mineral rights would be very useful since the area is almost entirely submerged, not sure about oil.
I lost a couple of distant relatives in the RCAF in WWII, don't know the details. The Canucks pulled out a can of whupass in the War of 1812--very embarassing to the original 1812 "warhawks" who considered Canada a walkover. (It was an example of failing to prepare for war before actually engaging in one.) The dispute actually arose out of Britain's use of "impressment" of U.S. citizens on the high seas as memory serves.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/rubin072705.htm
The tone in this link seem a bit strong but anyway:
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Why is this important?
Because between the polar icecaps melting at a prodigious rate and the possibility of significant oil deposits in the seabed, at a time when oil deposits are running out, Hans Island becomes a critical tool for the economic exploitation of the arctic. With the polar icecaps melting, the North West Passage to Asia, through the Canadian Arctic, may be a financially viable transportation route at long last. If the Danish claim Hans Island, they would not only have the right to use the Canadian straits as they pleased, but also, it would encourage other nations to use the Northwest Passage, firmly in Canadian territory, as international waters. Also, if oil were found in the area, the Danish would have exclusive control over it.
CBR
I have another great idea. We select myself and 8 other judges from around the world (so we have an odd number). You begin by giving us all copious amounts of Canadian Rye Whiskey and Danish Vodka. You then feed us. Finally, the competition begins.... 10 women, 5 from Canada, 5 from Denmark get 2 minutes apiece to convince us, in any way they can, on why the Island should belong to them. Contestants should be cute, styled and most importantly, curvaceous. We're looking for new waitresses for the Conservative Club, you understand...
In order to use my plan, I have 2 conditions...
1) Gawain and PanzerJaeger get to be my 'founders choice' judges, the other 6 will be decided 3 apiece by Denmark & Canada.
2) Not a word of this ever gets to my wife, no matter how many peace prizes I might win.
It would take a lot to populate anywhere near Hans Island. If it did it would beconsidered the second most northern settlement in the world. And the first is not like it get's many visits. It would very hard and maybe in the very distant future that any real exploitation of the land and sea around Hans island will begin. But it is ours, we can't let other countries get the northern Archipelago and it's important waterways between Europe and Asia. And if we have to we will show our muscles to those Danes. Our mounties along can take care of this one. ~D
But, the important thing for Canadians to remember is that Hans Island is our tiny, blasted and forsaken island. And it must stay that way, if we expect any of our international claims of sovereignty over the, now only allegedly, Canadian north to be recognized.
It is a symbol of our fight against imperialism.
due to a mapping anomaly
One little mistake on a map and those thieving Danes are trying to steal our country from underneath us!
However, because no line was drawn from point 122 to point 123, a no man’s land with a distance of 875 meters was formed: Hans Island falls smack dab in the middle.
Probably some drunken Dane, who couldn't draw straight! You heard them boasting how they drink!
On an idealistic level, Hans Island represents Canada’s ability to successfully defend, both politically and militarily, its own claimed territory. Without this ability, its sovereign territory is not worthy of the name.
They would take away our very right to exist as a nation!
The Danish had landed on the island time and time again; since 1988, they have planted and replaced the Danish flag four times on its rocky surface. Once, they cheekily left a bottle of brandy.
Repeatedly we have had our sovereign territory violated, again and again! How much are we expected to endure? I ask you, who but Canadians would put up with such insults; "If you prick us do we not bleed?... And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?"
Furthermore, Canada’s claim over the north is challenged by both the United States and Russia. While Russia claims sovereignty over parts of the Canadian continental arctic shelf, the United States maintains that the Northwest Passage, which cuts through the middle of Canada’s northern arctic territories, is international waters.
If Canada loses the battle over Hans Island, it may appear weak, and other nations may try to press their advantage and claim vulnerable Canadian territory.
If we lose the war against Danish aggression we leave Canada open to attack from a great coalition of enemies. Remember the words of that great Canadian Benjamin Franklin "Gentlemen, we must hang together in this, otherwise we will surely all hang separately!"
On July 20, Defence Minister Bill Graham landed on the island, provoking squeals of outrage from the Danish over an illegal ‘occupation’: of Canada’s own territory. On July 25, they declared their intention to issue a strongly worded letter of protest. This matter is not a matter for negotiation, diplomacy or mediation.
Oh, listen to the little Danes squeal. They conduct an illegal ‘occupation’ of Canadian territory and expect mercy! No negotiation, No diplomacy and no mediation.
And should the Danish imperialism escalate, as withered as Canada’s once strong military arm may be, it is not so weak that it cannot turn back the Viking raiders from our shores. However barren and northerly they may be.
You heard it! imperialism Do they expect that every Canadian show bow down to them?
To denmark I say; Our patience grows thin. Remember what we did to the Harp Seals!
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Let us pray for god is on our side.
"O Lord our God, help us tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended in the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames in summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--
For our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, strain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet!
We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen."
BRILLIANT!! Funniest thing I've read in days.Quote:
"O Lord our God, help us tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended in the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames in summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--
For our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, strain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet!
We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen."
If anyone can find a decent map of the area, please post it. I know where the island is supposed to be, but can't get a detailed map of the Kennedy Channel. I found one velocity map that appears to show Franklin Island, but Hans Island is a little above the map edge.
I only wish I could claim credit for it!Quote:
Originally Posted by discovery1
The War Prayer
by Mark Twain
http://media.canada.com/canwest/29/20040325main.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Red Harvest
When I first read the tagline, I thought CNN had found the Backroom:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americ...eut/index.html
Funny article. I loved this bit:
This is what's wrong with you crazy canuks!!! You should be organizing a boycott of Denmark, and changing the official name of Danish to 'Freedom Pastry'. You have no clue on how to be small and petty, but if you want our help, just say the word and we'll come up with some more ideas for ya....Quote:
"Notwithstanding the disputed area, the Canadian Foreign Affairs Ministry is allowing its cafeteria to sell Danish pastries as a goodwill gesture towards the Danish government and people," ministry spokesman Reynald Doiron said.
Thanks, I'm still looking for something a bit tighter in. The closest I came was this: Kennedy Channel Map I think this shows Franklin Island (the larger one) and Crozier Island. Looking at Hans Island coordinates ( 80° 49′ 0″ N 66° 28′ 0″ W ) it would be just off the map and smack in the middle of the channel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironside
AHA! Found a map, try MSN Map
Yep, that is going to be tricky to sort out.