Nato is taking American Money!!!

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NATO is mutual - we pay for your safety - and you pay for ours.

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Thats pretty funny.

Gawain, do you think that every President of the United States, and most of their advisors were fools?
They have maintained the NATO link because it is in the best interests of the United States to do so.
What happened regarding the Iraqi situation is a good example of why allies are important.
Why they didn't show up is not something we need to go over again! Having Turkey, France, Germany on side would have been very valuable.

President Bush wanted them there. Is he misguided on that score as well?

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Originally Posted by sharrukin

You were suggesting giving them some bombs here as well, but not in quite the same way.
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...0&postcount=25

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Ok that one was a joke! :rifle:

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Gawain, do you think that every President of the United States, and most of their advisors were fools?

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Well some were. ~D

You have to admit that its been a pretty onesided alliance.

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Originally Posted by Kaiser of Arabia

No, no, give bombs to russia.

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Sorry Kaiser,but they have plenty of their own link.In rocketry they are in matter of fact ahead of you.Russia is closest to succesfully develop hypersonic ballistic missiles. :bow:

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

Well some were. ~D

You have to admit that its been a pretty onesided alliance.

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To a certain degree yes. But all alliances are to some degree. The alliance with Japan is even worse but it is also very valuable for a number of reasons.

Imagine if you will if the alliance we have with europe was one the Chinese or Russians had. Would that be a cause for concern?

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Originally Posted by Gelatinous Cube

NATO? Mutual? What a laugh. In the event of the USSR attacking, the only things coming for america would be nukes. You guys can't do crap against that. On the other hand, we'd send enough nukes towards russia to blow them back to the dark ages. Europe would have survived, and Russia and the USA would have been smoldering heaps.

That doesn't sound like Mutual to me.

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I think you will find that the short range nukes were aimed at Europe. And a ICBMs were aimed at USA and the rest of the world... even New Zealand which is far off the beat and track would have been targeted because they are a US ally.

Essentially anyone who was a friend of the US in the cold war was a potential target. That is the keypoint in MAD, that everyone gets nuked.

So yes it was Mutual all along... Mutually Assured Destruction.