Occultus Revealed

I think I know what it is...

While EB is hardcore about historical accuracy, it is not impossible for them to have a little fun.

All the possible historical factions have been shown, I do not think that it can be the Indians because EB map simply does not cover all of India.

If it is just another obscure historical faction, EB would not keep it a secret like this.

My guess... the Amazons or some odd rebel faction.

Remember Themyskra (spelling)? If CA had the liscense to have its fun there, why not the EB team?

Look carefully at Khelvan's signature, the part that is uncovered near the "C" shows tips of green lettering. I would pull it into photoshop to examine it more closely, but I am fairly certain that it is a letter without any loops...

errr, i don't think any one said they believed that the USA was a faction...

Mr Jones gave me the distinct impression he did... o_O Probably just a misreading. Ya. Oh well. *shrug* Have fun guessing! I am off this thread :-P

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Originally Posted by pezhetairoi

EDIT: And I have said too much. Khelvan has spoken.

I'll just say the last thing: you're all off the mark MWAHAHAHA.

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Edit?

EDIT ?!?!


What was said?!

Somebody tell me!!!! What was SAIDDDDDDDDD????????


Oh God have mercy on us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by pezhetairoi

EDIT: And I have said too much. Khelvan has spoken.

I'll just say the last thing: you're all off the mark MWAHAHAHA.

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im gonna shake you like a christmas present since this is what this oculltus thing appears to be, you are just getting everyone more excited about it you evil lil bastard!!!

im curious to know what it is but i can wait because i can always play dungeon siege 2

see, i wasn't supposed to be getting everyone more excited. I was scolded for revealing things I shouldn't. Two days on the EB team and I'm already in trouble like a naughty little boy caught stealing the biggest cookie in the world :( naughty naughty me. I shall shut up from now on. *nod*

surely no one thought i actually believed occultus to be the USA? i obviously need to work quite a bit on my sarcasm. personally, i believe it to be all the remaining factions not yet previewed.

I GOT IT!!!!!

Well well, you think you can get away with all this historic accurate stuff without a comeback?

You're wrong...

Occultus is simply...dogs, pigs, head hurlers, onagers, wonders, arcani, gladiators, legionary in testudo formation, and egyptians...

...all coming to kick some serius history loving nerds butt...

BE PREPARED!!! :duel:

k

what's ahistoric about the testudo formation?

the effectiveness is overrated..and i believe out of teh timefram, dunno exact

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Originally Posted by jerby

the effectiveness is overrated..and i believe out of teh timefram, dunno exact

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Hmm...isn't the testudo used before 16 BC? crassus used it with bad effect against the parthians I've heard. Wasn't that before 16 BC?

Hello everybody, this is my first post and i want to congratulate all the eb team for this incredible piece of art.

Possibly i dont know what occultus is, but maybe i know what could/should be.
I am a shogun veteran, and i always have thought that the game would be more realistic,difficult and interesting if a lot of the statistic information would be hidden (occulus) to the player.

Example,if the statistic of the units (charge,attack,defense) were unknown to the player,only the general atributes(fast moving,can sap,...), would be more realistic cause the player doesnt need to know the exact coeficients of the units and the first time you find a enemy unit you dont have to know if your unit is superior or not.And when you fight that faction more times you begin to know about the enemy.

The same can be said about the buildings,expecially about the temples,when a gobernor constructed one temple he never knew whats were the exact effects of this temple.About the time to siege,about the chances of rebellion in the city ,about the effects of traits and acillaries and so on.

I wanna know if this could be implement and if the eb team have thought about this.

Thank you.

I'm not sure but I think that's impossible to hide? Isn't this hard coded?

Unfortunately, the game automatically displays unit statistics in-game. As much as I would love to force te player to go by description rather than numbers, this is for the best.

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Originally Posted by pezhetairoi

EDIT: And I have said too much. Khelvan has spoken.

I'll just say the last thing: you're all off the mark MWAHAHAHA.

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your evil, the whole eb team is evil...I'm gonna tell my mum!
:bigcry: ~;)

what does it matter anyway, I already know most of EB's secrets ~;)
(I've got my own occultus signature now so doesn't matter)

Who knows, can just be an entirely unheard of Roman-related faction. But if it's civilized, I really do hope it wasn't a culture that is neither Roman or Hellenic-influenced. But there's little chance of that. I take back ny African-faction statement, if it was so, there would be much more areas of deep Africa that would be shown. So I'm thinking some Scandinavian, Hindu civ? Might make some sense as even Baktrian units bare SOME measure of similarity to other Hellenic forces. But Hindu forces, I -assume-(and feel free/obliged to correct me) would be completely unknown, and the Baktrians wouldn't have much knowledge(Again just an assumption) of 'em...But then, there would be more of India/Southeast Asia to be expanded into.

Well anyway, I'm just raving and rambling...So, how about an Island-based faction? Perhaps off of the Iberian Peninsula so they wouldn't have been found?

Or for that matter, it can just be a cool feature of the game. Could be some sort of new religion, or sect? Occultus is secret, and secret is esoteric in Greek(ok, i'm just winging it on this) so could be some sort of new sect/cult/secret shadowy organization that gives bonuses?

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I'll just say the last thing: you're all off the mark MWAHAHAHA.

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I have to agree on this one. And hopefully status quo will remain this.

Unless you're a striking female, of course. :laugh:

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Originally Posted by pezhetairoi

This is something else... big, hairy and smelly. Or perfumed, depending on where your tastes lie.

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This sounds like my woman!! :balloon2:
Will she be a faction? ~:confused:

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Originally Posted by Bartix

This sounds like my woman!! :balloon2:
Will she be a faction? ~:confused:

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nice woman you got, really nice... :uneasy:

Hmm, definitely not a faction.

I'm picking that aleh came closest with his last paragraph.

OK so its spreading the net pretty wide but here are the things I think it could be in more or less order of likelihood:

A reference to the fact that EB are slowly leaching out the info/EB members know lots of stuff about EB that we don't.

Fog of War -perhaps EB have managed to find a way of manipulating this in a more realistic manner so that you get 'news' of events around the place in the form of FoW reveals. (its big but I don't know about hairy or perfumed)

Spying/diplomatic system/units -again similar theme to FoW but a bunch of the options/units available eg assassins (hairy) & courtesans (perfumed)

Possibly somehow the character traits/ancilliaries, family tree or the economy (definitely a black art)

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Originally Posted by PSYCHO V

One man's 'thing' is another's 'Occultus' ..or should that be Occultii ?

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Occulti.

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Originally Posted by Turin

All the possible historical factions have been shown . . .

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Excellent point. There are, after all, no vast tracts of land not held by any of our previewed factions.

https://img323.imageshack.us/img323/...edsofar0rb.jpg

well there's a lot of space between the sauromatae and sweboz...
and ther's a lot of space in north africa...

Well there are at least three different occultus sigs. There are not THAT many factions left.
In all likelyhood it just means that the original faction is still hidden to US.
But who knows... with roman single/double faction status....there's room for one or two secret factions (but three?, I doubt it.)

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Originally Posted by Gertgregoor

well there's a lot of space between the sauromatae and sweboz...
and ther's a lot of space in north africa...

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I'm pretty sure Simetrical was being sarcastic...

And on that note, I say its a new faction!

Most of the space in north africa is the province of sahara =\ You can see that from the province outlines.

Maybe its something on the arabian penninsula.

But maybe its something else entirely:

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Originally Posted by pezhetairoi
This is something else... big, hairy and smelly. Or perfumed, depending on where your tastes lie.

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The Mark
Unless you're a striking female, of course.

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Some northern horse tribes has alot of women riders with them...

Or,

Maybe Lesbos is a faction! ~D

XD XD XD XD

Divinus Arma, your *ahem* fertile *ahem* imagination never ceases to amaze me :)

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Originally posted by Divinus Arma

Maybe Lesbos is a faction!

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With Cut Scenes!!!!

Crosses fingers and prays.

This is Europa Barbarorum, not Grand Theft Auto San Andreas. =\

Why can't it be Grand theft Barbarorum? You play(First person) as a "barbarian" who is part of an army that just captured a large city!

Dux would like it at least :wink: